I have heard a coach say something similar about a team not showing up for the second half.
fair point that
I have heard a coach say something similar about a team not showing up for the second half.
Our d would maybe be able to pull a rabbit or two out of its ass...but we'd need some help from Ohio on turning the ball over.
Our one dimensional offense on the other hand.....ah-HAHAHAHAHA -LOL-LMAO-hahaha. Ahhhhhh. Ha. H-..never mind.
Yes, or at least it would feel like 1995 and '96 where we weren't totally happy about the prior underachievement but ended on a happy note. It's pretty tough to imagine right now though.
In my opnioin, beating OSU is more important when we are having a decent to good season, than when we are having a bad season. That rivalry is built on the history that in the Big Ten, it was us and them. We were the two best programs, fighting for the top spot. The importance of that game, when the rivarly was being built, rodes on at least competing in other Big Ten games, adn most often being very near the top of the Big Ten coming into that game. I always want to beat them, but that is because of the foundation past teams built of needing to beat them to get to the Rose Bowl and beyond. In my opinion, beating OSU means more when we have had a decent season. Beating OSU this year woudl be great in terms of what it does to them, but it does little for us in a season that has already been wrecked.
The game is much more meaningful when both teams are playing for big ten champions or national picture...2006 game comes to mind. Much more at stake thanour bragging rights..i dont see this year being much of a game but it could be it is a rivalry but fhe teams are in two different directions. As a buckeye fan ive always wanted you guys to be at the top with us. Its bettr for our league and the game. Always have watched with respect for your program but hope things change with thecoaching staff. I wasnt sold on Hoke from day one
at this point, it's likely that the OSU game might get puched to the BTN. we apologise
I see this from the other direction. Ohio will beat us, but if we were a any good that victory would help get them into the Natl Championship game. As it stands, they'll likely go undefeated and not make the game. Go Blue!
Beating Ohio? That's just not happening. 6-6 here we come! Woohoo!
Well, I will put it like this - considering that that the predicted odds of beating OSU on Massey's site are now at 17% after yesterday's loss, a win that essentially blows the predictive analytics out of the water would be amazing in a lot of respects.
That's 1 out of 6, and I am a little surprised that it is that high. Is there an associated point spread on the game? I would think, given its home, about 14.
If you use the current Sagarin ratings to predict the spread, it would be OSU - 13.65, so for now, we would likely be 2 TD underdogs if that game were played today. It will be interesting to see how the ratings move (hopefully for the better) in the next two weeks.
Agreed. I think it is fairly important to the program to get a split on these two away games. If they do, then I suspect that the line for OSU will stay around the 14 points barring something unusual on OSU's end.
For the OSU game, I just hope the defense can keep it within single digits at half time.
Sagarin has N.Illinois at #6 and has change his formula twice during the season .
9-3 With wins over ND and ohio? Anyone who says differently is letting disappointment from last night take over.
That being said, it's never gonna happen. I shudder to think how much red is going to be in The Big House on that Saturday, MNCG on the line or not.
Speaking of red in the big house, where can I buy a ticket?
Michigan is going to be ass-stomped in this game. The only question is by how many touchdowns. Don't torment yourself with useless speculation.
It would definitely be like some of the old Bo teams who were given no chance and beat an undefeated OSU team. I do think Michigan should be the underdog now in every game left on the season. That really sucks, but at least any surprises from here on out will be pleasant ones.
Since Bo was my era of football, I can assure you that there wasn't a single season in Schembechler's UM career when anybody with any brains said we had "no chance" to beat OSU, whether they were undefeated or not.
I think you're thinking about a few of Carr's seasons.
OSU was claimed to be the best team in history. That is why that game was the "upset of the century". I was there. But, that type of upset is probably not happening this year.
but after that game, Bo proved we always had a good chance of beating OSU.
Beating OSU this season would be a greater upset than the '69 game. Not because the 2013 OSU team is more awesome and fearsome than the 1969 OSU squad, but because the 2013 Michigan team is a poorly coached disaster.
In 1969, Michigan was 7-2 but ranked #12 in the country when they lined up against Ohio State. Also, the 2 losses were early, and the team was pretty dominant in the 2nd half of schedule.
This year, the only similarity is that Ohio State will be ranked pretty close to #1.
This coach has talked about championships and every season this program is farther away from winning one. No one game can make up for, or erase the simple fact that this staff cannot adjust in-game to the situation. The offense has had at least two(probably more by then) negative rushing yard games. That is completely unacceptable.
RR got a little better every year. This staff has gotten worse every year. outh and inexperience are not the only, or even the main reason anymore.
Beating OSU would be nice, but read this twice: IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
...I would just concentrate from here on out on preparing for that OSU game. No need to spend much time preparing for NW or Iowa - those games don't really mean too much at this point. 90% of practice until the end of November should be on prepping for the OSU game.
Hoke will not get fired at the end of this season. He will likely get at least 5 years, which I think most coaches deserve. But losing to OSU in Ann Arbor this year, will set the tone for his demise after his 5 years are up. If he wants to keep his job, he should plan accordingly.
I think that winning the OSU game is the only way
but it won't happen... lol
yes, I wrote 'lol' but I actually laughed out loud...
and fuck worrying about this years season... we might win another game, we might not... either way I just want the season to end...
Of course it does.
People are still upset right now, but if we ruined Urban's 23-0 record? Ruined his chance at a National title? This place would go nuts. The sky is no longer falling. There would be a "Give Borges some credit" thread. There would be a "If you even questioned Hoke, you are an idiot" thread. All would be right in the world again.
No, no, no.
Yes. That is how a rivalry works. Ruining the other guy's season makes up for yours being a tire fire.
Beating Ohio will not be happening
But close calls vs Akron and UCONN. I complete letdown vs PSU. A rape on national television vs MSU. And just a listless offensive performance vs Nebraska are not getting "saved" by a win vs OSU. AND WE WONT WIN VS OSU.
Rape, in any context, isn't funny. There are better descriptive words.
We may have a chance..... if we slip some roofies in their cooler
That played 2 backup QBs. Ohio brings not only the most talented squad in our conference, but one of the top 5 talented squads in the Nation to A2. At this stage, keeping the game within 3 TDs would be a huge accompliment.
It would stop me from crying
If we beat OSU, I will eat a lemon whole. But yeah, that won't be happening.
There's going to be a lottttt of S&G in our stadium that day.
It's always good to beat Ohio but it won't change the 11 games that proceed it. It will be a very nice moment on a season that I would rather forget.
Honestly, at this point I don't really care. This will be the first time in 20 years I will not be glued to the tv to watch our pantsing, I instead will be relaxing at Great Wolf Lodge with my family for the weekend. I could go to the game but the PAIN isn't worth it.
I recall the string of 4-loss seasons in the mid-90's. Each time we went into the OSU game, I had already mentally prepared for 5-loss seasons. It also didn't hurt that those OSU teams were very good. Ruining their seasons was absolutely delicious. I see one thing different between those years and this year: we could actually run the damn ball. There won't be any hand-it-off-to-Timmy-B-for-313-yard scenarios this year, even though OSU's defense has shown some weaknesses this year.
People still talk about how the '93, '95, and '96 teams knocked off OSU. Nobody rememebers or cares that those teams had crappy seasons.
Seroiusly? But what do you think they would be saying if those teams had good seasons?
The point is that you will never have a truly crappy season when you beat Ohio State. Beating Ohio State does "save the season".
We can't beat Ohio.
We must all shut up and eat our mush.
puts Hoke in line for canonization.
But we'll be lucky to keep it within 50 since Urbz will be looking for style points. The only 2 things keeping Hoke from the hot seat is a lucky win against ohio in 2011 (miller overthrew a wide open Devier Posey right before Avery got the int) and the face he has Jabrill Peppers committed.
In all honesty, since we're going to lose to ohio no matter what, I hope Urbz just curb stomps us to get DB to see that Hoke is nothing more than a glorified recruiter.
*And the fact he has Jabrill Peppers committed.
A lucky win?? What a pathetic post.
Doubt we win. So let the Snow flakes begin!
It depends on what you mean by "save". If you mean that fans and players will be able to look back on this year with some pride and a sense of accomplishment, then yes, it would save the season. And it might even save a coach's job if his performance is under scrutiny at the end of the year and the fire-retain decision is a close call. At a minimum we would go into the bowl game and 2014 with a lot more confidence, which wouldn't be a bad thing. But it wouldn't mean that we are totally satisfied with the team's performance, or that there shouldn't be changes in personnel or how things are managed. In that sense, no, it wouldn't save the season.