If we beat Ohio, does that save the season in your mind? If not, does it at least allow you to stomach the season?
Does it mean anything at all? (Other than what it traditionally means)
No. But it would be nice for recruiting.
Perchance to dream.
This is like dreaming about hitting Powerball. It's fun to think about and I have a better chance at it than Michigan has at beating the Buckeyes.
it would mean quite the shitload
It would be a nice consolation prize.
No. Because it may save Borges' job.. Which re-ruins the season.
UM wins 2-0 on a safety. Perfect scenario.
You are not a fan if you EVER want the team to lose. Sorry. Some people are cray cray.
There's just too much wrong with this statement.
Are you an M fan or no? Rooting for the team to lose? There's so much stupid here.
Hoke has beaten it into me that it's B1G Championship or bust. While beating OSU would mean what it always had, I don't get any additional satisfaction.
Other than spoiling a perfect season, it doesn't even do anything.
They can still go to the B1G Championship Game and win, they can still go to the Rose Bowl and win.
Even if they go undefeated, they're not going to the NC game, so that's their likely path anyway. A loss to Michigan doesn't change anything.
Yes. But it would also be nice if I won the lottery. And since I don't buy lottery tickets, the odds of the two events happening are approximately equal. And I hate myself for thinking that.
But, no one actually still thinks that can happen, do they??? I guess optimism is nice, and I will be there cheering, but come on....
Yes and no.
if Borges calls a good game and we win it will save his job.
So would we really want that to happen?
I'm not thrilled with the guy anymore, but if he can beat Ohio, he can't be all bad. At that point the "inexperience/youth" defense would become more credible.
Yes! We really want to beat Ohio!!! You weren't serious, were you????
lol, I'm imagining the same thread posted around this ime in 2008. the better question is, which team had a better shot of beating OSU, 2008 (on the road) or this team? I submit, 2008.
and that is the scariest part of all...
It would be nice that's for sure. But a more realistic question would be "will OSU beat us by more than the 50-14 score from 1968?"
But hey, at least its a home game so that you can enjoy it in person.
And will Urban go for two in order to do it?
Urban is going to pants us. He is going to drop 80 if he can't. I bet we see starters in the fourth quarter... I guess we can always go back to calling them Ohio State to show a little class.
but he didn't get it. A one-pointer would have made it 51-14. The big deal then was that that was an 8-1 4th-rated Michigan team, and the best since a 1-loss Rose-Bowl champion in 1964. Woody's 1968 and 1969 teams seem to have been lousy at kicking extra points.
Woody did go for 2 and get it, I believe, in a 1961 50-20 victory in Ann Arbor.
Carr's 1995 and 1996 OSU victories are still fond memories for me, although it is hard to know how to compare then with now. A lot has happened in the last 7 years.
that year. Now all we need is for Urban to go for two when up 50-14.
Seriously, we would need to execute (and have Ron Johnson at tailback) to score 14.
Hoke is starting to get genuinely concerned that the OSU game could be a nightmare---on many fronts.
No it won't salvage the season, but it would be great to beat OSU. I would then wonder how we could beat OSU and somehow lose to PSU and almost lose to Akron and UCONN.
We just got beat by the worst defense, in the B1G, and an offense that had injuries everywhere. We will be lucky to lose by less than 20.
We will be lucky to not be down 20 before the end of the first quarter.
I just don't see it happening.
Another question might be, is the season salvaged if Michigan beats both Northwestern and Iowa on the road, and then the obvious loss to Ohio State?
That's 9-3, a 1-game improvement on last year. Pretty good and about even with expectations.
My concern is that we are going to finish the last 3 games 1-2 at best, with 0-3 a good possibility (more so than going 2-1).
That would be 8-4. We're 6-3 right now.
Whoops, you're right.
We're a little worse off than I thought. This team could actually equal Bo's 6-6 season... and this season has similar feel to it.
9-3 or 8-4 was about my expectations for this season. However, the way we've gone 6-3 to this point has been was below my expectations. I am mostly still proud of the way the defense has kept us in the games.
I remember attending the Michigan-OSU game in 1993. We were 6-4. OSU was undefeated. We destroyed them to the point the 28-0 score was deceiving. That was awesome. We ended up a fairly satisfying 8-4 that year.
I just don't see it happening this time around. I really hope we're all wrong!
I was at the '93 game. It did not feel like a shocking surprise at the time, despite our record.
The four games we lost that year were all winable. There was no game were we did not have a realistic chance. That's not true this year.
oh christ fuck this
of the three games we've lost, we had fourth quarter leads in two and in the other we were pretty hopeless but still had a chance to get back into it late in the game.
this is not 2008
Sat, Sep 14
Sat, Sep 21
Sat, Oct 12
Sat, Nov 9
and reeling w/o half their offenseive starters and no defense
Not exactly a murderers row right there.
The NU game was the best "performance" against the highest quality opponent since ND. ND is our only quality win. solid wins vs Minn, IU, CMU. Utterly destroyed by MSU.
this is the worse performance against the worst schedule - certainly comparable to 2009 if not 2008.
The point is, you can't pull the "we almost won in the 4th in 2/3 losses, when we almost lost to akron and uconn- and those were closer games against poorer opponents.
If not for 2008 & 09, this would be the worst Michigan team going back to the 60s, at least.
Taking another special break from my MGo exile, because I respect you. The OP said we were competitive in our 4 losses in 1993 as opposed to this year. I pointed out that we were "competitive" in two thirds of our losses this season. So my point, even by your logic, is valid.
Also, the team I'd most compare this one to is 1984.
0-3 is a huge possibility. I would be happy with 1-2. Sad face. Has anyone noticed how our Ball security has been amazing? Weird, right?
We are not keeping the ball enough to give it away.
A lot of that is due to our QB now taking the sack when he could be throwing it away or trying to make the play. He's done a 180 in that regard.
0-3 is a virtual certainty.
Let's not forget that NW hasn't won since September. They're probably in an even worse emotional state.
Oh for Chrissakes, are you really resting your hopes on that? That's EXACTLY the mentality that everybody had going into the PSU game. And the game yesterday.
Well look, if Michigan had lost five consecutive games, would you be basically guaranteeing victory the next week?
I'm not saying that we are in a great state or predicting victory for that matter, but NW is also a mess at the moment.
has played better than Michigan this year. If anything they are going to be more pumped to beat Michigan given their results so far.
Iowa is not going to be a cakewalk either.
If losing 4 big ten games is "pretty good", then, well, my how our expectations at Michigan have fallen.
Don't you mean 8-4?
Doesn't "save the season" but ends it on the best note possible. And plunges a lot of Buckeyes into a dark, deep abyss for the next 11 months. Nothing better.