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Softball vs. Louisville open thread
game today ladies let get em.
can the two of you just text each other?
/I kid because I care
All right let's go.
mean banging the ball off the wall.
This is MICHIGAN, forgodsakes! He obviously means banging the ball off the bat, over the wall.
How could I think so poorly of our girls?
Steph is banging those hard hit shots to third. She is doing a bang-up job today.
Michigan is the host team?
Stranded the bases loaded. I hope that doesn't come back to bite us.
in the first inning. Looks like it is a good day. Too bad Haylie could not see green.
0 0 0 for louisville
0 2 0 for the good guys
Keep playing defensive innings like that they won't lose. Can't lose if the other team can't score.
bases loaded twice. Nice...
Got to get a hot or walk here. Keep up the pressure.
Gonna need to get a couple here.
1-0, bottom 2.
Odd that Louisville has a "closer". I've never seen one of those in softball.
have one. She was about 5 MPH SLOWER than my starter. Once everyone had seen my starter and adjusted to her speed, the closer would throw them off.
that is base running at the highest level. NEVER run into a tag is difficult to teach.
I played baseball, and I do like fantasy MLB. But I always found softball more fun to watch on TV. Especially our UM ladies. Hail.
What happened at Florida?
accused of an "altercation" against black player Michelle Moulton. However, one of the dismissed players put this on her facebook:
"The three of us have not been released from the team because of racism or bullying. There are a lot of rumors circulating that are false. Kasey and Cheyenne were both Michelle's roommate. All three of us are good friends with her, and will remain close to her. It is sad that people have created such false accusations."
Oh, I thought we had her picked off at 1st.
EDIT: Didn't matter. That was not the best baserunning there.
It looks like Northwestern may win again.
And who said the B1G was weak? Oh shit...I did.
That's how it's done.
Nobody listens to me when I say Michigan will get out of these tough spots.
Lead off walks, please. Not the kind of jam I like.
Nice job getting out of that jam! Now, need moar runs!
Top 6 Louisville coming to bat.
in top of 6th. still 1-0 us.
at third base. What a gamer. She is making a case for the game ball for sure.
Can Kirkpatrick come back in to field or is she done?
once to the same batting order. However, her sub is done.
Can you tell me the purpose of that rule (why different than baseball)? I have never really liked it, but never paid attention to the purpose behind it.
but the rules for baseball are set by MLB. Most of the lower organizations including Little League Baseball Inc. follow MLB's lead with some tweaks of course.
There are over 10 different youth organizations in USA and they all follow the MLB rule book to some degree. It is rumored that MLB will contact Little League Baseball Inc in Williamsport Pa to discuss rule changes before implementation.
MLB has 25 players on their roster so subs are not an issue. Little League Baseball Inc. does allow subs due to the agerage roster of 11 or 12. NCAA follows MLB very closely for baseball. The biggest difference in MLB requiring wood bats only. That is a whole other discussion.
Softball's lead organizing body is ASA in Oklahoma City. Ever wondered why the NCAA SB World Series was held in Oklahoma? Now you know. ASA's primary goal is to standardize the rules of softball just like MLB does for baseball. Since most youth softball teams have only 12 players, ASA allows for re-entry of ALL players.
The pitcher can return to the mound provided she stays in the game but moved to a different location. I do this all the time. If my starter gets into trouble and is visably shaken, I will shuffle the defense to allow my #2 to come in. I will move the starter to the outfield, for example, for a few innings to calm down. Then later in the game I will bring her back in.
I think this explains why Wagner bats. It seems that ordinarily the best 9 batters on the team are the batters, but there must be great value in being able to switch Wagner and Dreisenga back and forth between pitcher and dh- more value than .109 batting average points.
Louisville up in the top of 7th.
We have this. Just need to get the bats going. Too bad we left so many on earlier in the game!
haunt any team.
All of a sudden the strike zone got about a foot wider.
I think I would enjoy softball 10x more if it weren't for all the cheers and chants from the dugout. I have to put it on mute. Go Blue.
I am not fond of them either. However, it is a part of the game.
In high school, I hated when we had a baseball game at the same venue of the softball team. They would always come over and watch our game after theirs was done and they were so loud and annoying. Now, I've always been more responsive to criticism than encouragement, but still.
I read an article about how Hutch issues report cards every 11 games. Bench players are included and are graded on enthusiasm and engagement and how prepared they are to enter games. It's probably a good idea for them to participate.
Also if they made the base paths a bit longer. Any sport where a routine ground ball turns into a hit 75% of the time is a bit unwatchable in my world. But still, go blue!
One need only look at the batting averages to see how inaccurate that is. Softball is all about speed and putting pressure on the defense, especially at this level. Much better than fielding a groundball, pounding the ball into the glove five times and still getting the runner by 3 steps, in my opinion.
The bas are so low is because roughly half the at bats end in strikeouts. I am sure 75% is an overstatement, but a routine gb should not be a hit in my baseball-conditioned mind. Different sport, for sure, and not really to my liking. I understand others enjoy it. To each their own.
extra innings 1-1
Great catch from Bree Evans.
okay ladies let's win in in the bottom of the eighth
We got a gift there.
what Hutch was thinking there. I would have used a PB and bunted Ashley over. I would have used Blanchard.
We're gonna get Blanchard right here.
MGOBLOG during the game?
Looks awesome on tv I am told
HBP on first pitch.
Hit by pitch to win? Weird game to follow in the thread only haha
Just turned it on before penalty kicks.... and walk off, bases loaded, hit by pitch! Go Blue!
we scored on a HBP and a bad call.
She moved her elbow OVER the plate. That might have been a strike.
I am not sure what you saw, but it looked to me like she didnt move at all and just let it hit her elbow.
I thought she moved her elbow a bit, but it sure wasn't going to be a strike. They weren't calling strikes on pitches up above the nipples.
did you really intend to say nipples or did you intend to say "above the letters"?
I meant what I said. I've used that in hockey before, when a referee calls a contact-to-head penalty, when the player was actually hit in the chest. I've told the referee that I didn't realize a person's head was located between his nipples.
So, no, that was not intended as a sexist comment, if that's where you're going.
you made a sexist comment. I was using a play on words. +1 to you.
Next time I will use /s.
No problem. In a situation like this, you can't be too careful. I thought I might have to explain that one eventually.
In the batters box. So, no. it was not a strike.
It wouldn't have been called a strike and she kind of turned her elbow.
Grats Ladies! Man that's got to hurt getting hit in the elbow like that, way to take one for the team!
I'll take it but you do feel for Louisville a bit. Let's not give it back tomorrow
Thats playing some team ball. She thought about getting out of the way, and then kind of leaned and stuck her elbow out. When people say "take one for the team." That's the kind of thing they're referring too. Hail.
I'm happy we won but she probably should have been out at third.
I know that we have gotten bad breaks before too so guess it's a wash.
Congrats and let's win that first game tomorrow.
Edit: Guess I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty and it's not like Louisville deserved it more.
Heyo! HBP for the win!
we kinda got away with one there with the safe call at third. I'll take the win though.
They said after the game that it is a rule change this year. Last year they would have had to stay.
Missed call third out on tag at third and HBP on strike over plate. Sucks to be Louisville.
Hard to top getting the inning extended on a bad call and then scoring the winning run on a HBP. But the bigger story is that Wagner has thrown two good games in a row against tough opponents. If she can hold teams to 1-3 runs a game, this team can keep going.
Another nail biter of a game! Finally got a call in our favor and made it count. Way to go ladies. GO BLUE
I sure hope Louisville gets knocked out..they are gonna be pissed if they win out the losers bracket..
1) Michigan wins on a walk-off HBP
2) TV coverage constantly showing LARGE red bloated object situated behind and to the left of home plate
He is still sitting in the same spot for the second game.
HUGE win, even if it took a bit of luck to get there. Now if Haylie can just cut down those 7th inning mistakes, or if we can build up a bit bigger of a lead ...
That was for sure an ump win, lane was out at 3rd and the pinch hitter moved her elbow in a little but i'll take it.
Be such a Debbie downer a win is a win is a win
Hbp or not for the victory is great for the team. Come on down and be in attendance tomorrow. Tailgate starts at 11
In softball if you get hit in the batters box it's a HBP even if you move into it and she barely moved anyway.
This year. They don't have to move out of the way.
I'm not sure the ump was in position for that call. IME it is always worth a polite appeal.
You can't appeal that play.
If that field ump did not see the play, does he have to make a call nonetheless? May the 3rd base coach ask if he would like to check with the plate ump? Because that was just about the whole game for them. Appeal was the wrong word.
That was the plate ump who made the call at third. If you go back and watch, he had his mask in his left hand as he made the "safe" call.
The play started with a runner on first. There are 3 umps in a softball game. With a runner on 1st, the umps are at the plate, first base and second base (the ump at second base is called the "3B ump" even though he wasn't covering third at the time). On the long single, the plate ump moves over to 3rd to make a potential call there. The ump at 1st stays there to cover any play made if the ball is cut off, and the ump at 2nd stays there to make sure the runner touches and make a call in case the runner makes a big turn at 2nd and runs back (or if the batter tries to make 2nd on the throw). The 1B ump is responsible for covering home if there is a bad throw and the runner tries to score.
So when that call was made, it was the HP ump making the call at third, the 1B ump was keeping an eye on the runner at 1st but ready to move up the line and make a call at the plate in case the ball got away from the 3B, and the 3B ump was covering second in case the batter tried to take second on the throw. Neither of the other umps would have seen that tag--it was a close call, and the only question was whether the sweeping tag hit the runner or not. That's not anywhere close to a situation where you could ask for help from the other two umps.
That's probably more than you want to know about 3-man umpiring mechanics...but the bottom line is that there just isn't any help to be had in that situation.
I umpire as well and if a coach asks me politely to confer with the other umpires, I will. Louisville Coach blew this one, she should have asked for help. A good umpire would have sought out help regardless of his confidence in the call.
I was umpiring once and Joyced a call. The coach came out to ask me what I saw. I didnt need him to ask, I confered and told my partner "i blew the call" My partner said that i owed him six beers for bailing me out.
The key is to GET THE CALL RIGHT, PERIOD.....
I have always enjoyed talking to umps about how they made their calls, after the game, so I do appreciate your explanation. I can't review the play, but I recall an ump near the play, inside the base path. He could see the tag but not the base. The tag appeared to be hidden from the plate ump, but he could see the base. Maybe no one was in position to see both, which is bad luck.
As a pitcher-dad my perspective has always been that the real game is decided between the pitcher and the plate ump as to what the strike zone will be, and how it migrates. Warped perspective?
Walk off walk win. Now I've seen it all. Just one win tomorrow, and it's off to Supers.
Hail to the Victors! Go Blue, beat Louisville!