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So much for MSU owning state

So now its two years in a row, that we have the top state recruit in William Campbell, and now Devin Gardner, who recently moved ahead of Gholston. ALOT in the press has been made of Dantonio and MSU taking the lead in state recruiting. Coach Rod is now 2 for 2.

Who is predicted to be the 2011 top state recruit ?

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:51 AM | Who cares about State? (Score:1)
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Who cares about State?

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:14 PM | Well they are (Score:1)
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our big in-state rival.

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:51 AM | If this is serious, I'm at a (Score:1)
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If this is serious, I'm at a loss for words.

If it's a joke, it's not funny.

@pnbloem | Ultra-MGoBoard

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:51 AM | speaking of state, are they nuts?? (Score:1)
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http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2009/08/spartans_reach_10year_fo...

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:54 AM | Damn (Score:1)
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And we thought one game at UConn was bad.

"That's tremendous, Jim."
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August 20th, 2009 at 2:24 PM | Instate Games (Score:1)
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I LIKE the idea of in-state games between the Michigan schools. But I should also say that it is predicated upon the directional michigan teams being decent. Western has been. Central used to be. Eastern has never been.
I like the idea of keeping some of the money in-state.

But it also doesn't make sense for a 60k?80?(don't know, don't care) stadium to go unused so that team can go play in a 20k stadium in-state.

Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:47 PM | Next Step: Join the MAC. (Score:1)
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Next Step: Join the MAC.

Pronounced Ahh-Neh-Muh

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:52 AM | It doesn't matter. You kids (Score:1)
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It doesn't matter. You kids can sit in your ivory tower and pretend to be grads of Michigan and crow about getting the "top ranked" player by a bunch of HS Football watching nerds all you want - it's PERCEPTION that matters. In my PERCEPTION, which you can't challenge because it's right because I'm a MAN and you aren't, MSU is getting more in-state players.

The actual on-field results or talent of these players is IRRELEVANT. It only matters that the PERCEPTION is that Godriguez is getting owned by Dantonio in-state recruiting wise, and that is the current perception. We are losing the culture war to MSU. Deal with it.

I like to remind people that I drink beer because I am insecure about my masculinity

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:55 AM | Well then the perception is (Score:1)
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Well then the perception is WRONG now, isn't it ? And time will only prove so.

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:55 AM | I hope that this is a joke... (Score:1)
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Or else this might be the neg-bang of the century (I really hope for the latter that would surely liven up things before fall camp.. We need something to shake things up because talking about the same thing over and over again is getting quite boring)

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:02 PM | Bouje (Score:1)
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Fall Camp started 10 days ago.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:15 PM | Don't trade while blogging? (Score:1)
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I meant the fall season.. first games... My bad I'll go to my hole

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:03 PM | What happened to your 100,000 (Score:1)
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What happened to your 100,000 points?

IMHE

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:19 PM | They all moved away (Score:1)
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It's kind of like how no one lives in Detroit anymore. They all moved to the suburbs (AKA Brians basement)

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:57 AM | "i'm a man i'm 40"! (Score:1)
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"i'm a man i'm 40"!

"He has an uncanny ability to get kids to believe in him and believe in themselves. He doesn't do it with smooth words. He's not smooth. He does it by being the same genuine person day after day." ~Jason Whitlock on Brady Hoke

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:02 PM | OK, That Will Be Fine (Score:1)
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Which one of the kids at the WLA are you?

That being said, it is what it is.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:04 PM | You are ridiculous (Score:1)
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Why, a little too real for you? A little too much truth? I've been to jail, buddy. I can hurt people. You don't know shit. I've been paying JUCO tuition bills, serving burgers, banging fat women, beating kids, and fixing up vans longer than you've been alive, junior.

How do I know you aren't one of those stupid WLA kidz?

I like to remind people that I drink beer because I am insecure about my masculinity

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:27 PM | rolfmao! (Score:1)
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Dude, I can picture you with a wife-beater on sporting 3 day old stubble and smelly, filmy cigarette-beer breath! Where did it go wrong?
I will say this about your 'preception' assessment that we do have to put a halt to Dantonio's progress over at E. Lansing. Most of his pedigree has been anti-Michigan and he is darkly motivated to put us down in a big way. I fear he will elevate the MSU program to heights not seen since the Munn/Daugherty eras.

He must be stopped.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell

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August 20th, 2009 at 2:48 PM | If by heights not seen (Score:1)
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you mean bowl games, then you may be right.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:04 PM | If this is mocking the king (Score:1)
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If this is mocking the king of belch, then I say brilliant.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:21 PM | after the reading a few of (Score:1)
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after the reading a few of the duke's posts I am unimpressed. He is obviously a troll/act or something of that nature.

Now Mcfarlin, that guy was genius. I could never tell if he was really that stupid or if he a person of heightened intellect who was just toying with the Mgoblog community.

I would specifically read his topics just to see an intellectual force(most people) smash against unbreakable stupidity.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:35 PM | Perception??/ (Score:1)
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perception isn't reality. Godriguez? Dantonio is the one being portrayed as the new god of the state of Michigan. The on field talent is IRRELEVANT? That is the dumbest thing I have read on this site yet. Perception is for losers like you who want to judge before you let facts get in the way. IF Dantonio's recruits PLAY better than Rich Rod's recruits, then you can say he is dominating Rich Rod, not before. If Sparty is okay with taking in state players who are less talented than the out of state kids that Michigan brings in, more power to them. I prefer winning.

 

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:53 PM | I'm going to guess Barking (Score:1)
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I'm going to guess Barking Sphincter.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:15 PM | The Barking Sphincter was (Score:1)
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The Barking Sphincter was (unjustly) banned from this site for speaking to the reality of Michigan one too many times. It's like putting a man in jail for pointing out that your wife is fat. If she is fat, then what's the problem?

Or it's like the time the cops kept following me because I'd park my van in playgrounds and not wear pants. Is that, alone, a crime? I don't think so.

If you are insinuating that I'm The Barking Sphincter, and that I'm so fixated on getting a hard on from taunting you kidz that I'd make a new email and account to get around a ban, well, I'm sorry to disappoint you. My classes take up too much time for me to do that. I've been in school 6 years and I'm almost certified to teach gym to elementary students - why would I put that off to come mess with you kool-aid guzzling panda fuckers?

I like to remind people that I drink beer because I am insecure about my masculinity

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:51 PM | OMG.. that is funny. (Score:1)
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Are you Valenti, in drag?

Remember: Everyone rises to their own level of mediocrity.

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August 20th, 2009 at 7:18 PM | I rest my case (Score:1)
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It's Barking Sphincter.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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August 20th, 2009 at 7:35 PM | Sigh. (Score:1)
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Sigh.

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:15 PM | Word. (Score:1)
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My thought as well.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:59 PM | ? (Score:1)
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"The actual on-field results or talent of these players is IRRELEVANT."

So a nebulous concept such as "perception" is more important and significant than actual tangible wins and losses? Huh?

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:55 AM | Hmm, so let me get this (Score:1)
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Hmm, so let me get this straight. Most Michigan fans claim to dismiss MSU, treating them like their nothing, brushing them off supposedly, and only focusing on ND and OSU. Yet people on this blog, a Michigan blog, continue to bring up stuff on MSU on a borderline obsessive scale. Why all the posts on MSU? Maybe I missed something. Let's face it; most Michigan fans obsess about MSU and its program as much as MSU fans obsess about Michigan and its program. Maybe it's a thing with only people from state of Michigan; I didn't grow up in Michigan so really don't care about MSU that much.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:01 PM | I completely agree (Score:1)
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But for some unknown reason my order of hatred is:

1. ND
2. OSU
3. Red headed step child

I just try to ignore MSU as much as possible

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:33 PM | ND does not affect me at (Score:1)
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ND does not affect me at all...

You don't see many Notre Dame fans walking the streets of Metro Detroit like you do MSU fans...

and while Notre Dame fans are delusional, MSU fans are infinity times delusional.

Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. - Ephesians 6:11

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August 20th, 2009 at 3:32 PM | ND fans.. (Score:1)
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ND fans have leprosy and should be isolated from the general population

the supreme head butt

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:07 PM | your comment "most Michigan (Score:1)
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your comment "most Michigan fans obsess about MSU and its program as much as MSU fans obsess about Michigan and its program" is completely FALSE. nearly all MSU fans obsess about UofM, and UofM fans obsess about OSU, but are recently taken aback by the "perception" that MSU and Dantonio is owning the state. Until this "perception" is shown not to be reality, then you will hear musings about it here. But do not confuse it with UofM "obsessing" about MSU.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:59 PM | So true (Score:1)
KTChicago
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I was also an out-of-stater, and to this day I still don't care about State nearly as much as I do about TuoOSU. I want to beat them, of course, like any other team...but I don't spit every time I see them on TV or in the press.

Crab cakes and football! That is what Maryland DOES!

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:34 PM | Agreed. (Score:1)
Kapitan Howard
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I'm an in-stater, and I admit that I do focus too much on this rivalry at times. But I also try to be level-headed and realize that it's a far third at the highest on a monster list.

Pope of Chilitown

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August 20th, 2009 at 2:04 PM | The University of Ohio State. (Score:1)
Maize_and_Drew
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I haven't heard that one in a while. +1 for going retro on us.

Flush twice - it's a long way to Columbus.

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August 20th, 2009 at 11:57 AM | You can perceive whatever you (Score:1)
MGoPHILLY
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You can perceive whatever you want, but that doesn't make it correct. Idiots can think what they want.

*EDIT: Meant in response to the Duke

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:04 PM | Can we (Score:1)
jg2112
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just limit ourselves to one "Michigan State doesn't outrecruit us in Michigan" thread? Is that too much to ask?

This is today's other thread:

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/recruiting-michigan-and-detroit

And see the Other Brian's comment in that thread about Michigan recruiting.

And then don't ever post about this subject, again.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:08 PM | To the OP: So how far ahead (Score:1)
West Texas Blue
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To the OP:
So how far ahead is Gardner ahead of Gholston? Let's look at the 3 major recruiting services.

Scout:
Gardner #39 overall
Gholston #40 overall

Rivals:
Gardner #171 overall
Gholston #53 overall

ESPN:
Gardner #117 overall
Gholston #33 overall

So one site has Gardner over Gholston, and it's by a super big difference of..... one place. I don't put too much stock in recruiting ratings, so let's just agree that Michigan got a great QB in Gardner, and MSU did a nice job of landing a great DE prospect in Gholston. Congrats to both teams, time to move on.

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:35 PM | For the record, Gardner (Score:1)
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For the record, Gardner should be ahead of Gholston in the next Rivals re-rank. But I agree, recruiting rankings don't mean much.

Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. - Ephesians 6:11

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August 20th, 2009 at 12:49 PM | Countless studies disagree (Score:1)
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Countless studies disagree with you.

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:38 PM | Depends on his scope of rankings (Score:1)
formerlyanonymous
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Depends on what he means by don't matter. On the micro-level, say, they are both 5 star recruit (which now they apparently are), I could see the rankings not really meaning much. On the macro-level of this guy is a low four, this guy is a mid to high five, then your comment on countless studies would suffice.

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:19 PM | hey west texas blue... (Score:1)
diclemeg
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hey west texas blue... somehow you got me booted..

FU*K YOU

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:44 PM | Got you booted??? WTF does that mean on a website? (Score:1)
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You got banned... Then you couldn't post anymore... Maybe I'm just an idiot but:

"DOES NOT COMPUTE"

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:54 PM | I didn't do anything. I'm (Score:1)
West Texas Blue
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I didn't do anything. I'm just a simply guy throwing his 2 cents in here and there.

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August 20th, 2009 at 4:06 PM | Don't be so modest (Score:1)
BlueBulls
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Regale us with your quest through cyberspace and interwebs with the sole purpose of "BOOT"ing this young fellow.

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:21 PM | I was looking at some past (Score:1)
Hannibal.
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I was looking at some past Michigan recruit rankings the other day. It seems as if what MSU is doing is not to take away recruits from Michigan, but to keep out-of-state schools from plundering the talent. So what Sparty is doing isn't necessarily triumphing over Michigan, but over the USCs and Notre Dames of the world. For example, in 2007, all of the rivals.com top 6 from Michigan went to out-of-state schools. You have to get to #10 before you see a UM commit. (it seems like our dropoff in instate recruiting started before Carr left). But in 2009, 12 of the top 13 stayed at UM or MSU. So far in 2010, there are two guys out of the top 11 committed out-of-state, 2 undecided, and 7 UM or MSU commits.

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August 20th, 2009 at 1:44 PM | Who cares? (Score:1)
The New McFarlin
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about state. :D

I am a genius.

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