Snowflakes Thread: Offense Vs. Ohio State
November 28th, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^
It tried. It stalled out inside the 20 and it couldn't run, but it tried.
November 28th, 2015 at 5:29 PM ^
What offense?
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November 28th, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^
We need a real running back. That solves a lot of problems on offense. Defense on the other hand is another snow flake.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
Even peppers couldn't do much behind this line. We need better OL talent
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November 28th, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^
Be cool if osu got called one time for lining up in the neutral zone.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:35 PM ^
There were a few holds that were incredibly obvious that weren't called. One involving Peppers flailing his arms while being held. No call...
November 28th, 2015 at 4:34 PM ^
...why has college football decided that holding at the o-line on run plays should only rarely be called?
They sometimes will call holding on pass protection.
But on running plays, a hold call near the line of scrimage is now a very rare thing. Some of the holds this week were really easy to see, yet were not called.
If this is the way holding is going to be called, that is a huge advantage for the OSU style of running.
Holding has becoome like travaling in the NBA--they won't call even the obvious cases.
November 29th, 2015 at 1:32 AM ^
There was a play where four of our defenders had their shoulder pads pulled out of their jerseys after the play. No call on any of them.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:41 PM ^
Michigan will never run the ball with this group of olineman . They just don't have it in them.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
We can hope our Oline becomes stronger and even more experienced next year. Though odds are that we may have to wait until a whole new crop of guys come in before we see a dominate run blocking Oline. Most of our Oline have been here for four years and are still struggling in that area. I mean being 6'5 and 300 pounds doesn't mean a kid is going to be a good offensive lineman. You do need a certain level of talent.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:47 PM ^
Walking back to car, I decided to check the box score -
As for Rudock, the 19 for 32 and 263 yards translates to 13.8 yards per completion and 8.2 yards per attempt. I sort of get the feeling that the 1 TD - if we make a few more of those deep throws - is more TDs, but you can't play it again.
The ground game, yeah, it will be interesting to see how this gets addressed - 25 carries for all of 57 yards, or 2.3 yards per carry. We really needed to get this part of the game going and....well....
November 28th, 2015 at 4:59 PM ^
It was decent against the weaker teams but completey struggled against good defenses. They showed the stat on TV that against Utah, MSU and PSU the UM running game was almost none existent - you can add OSU to that list.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:53 PM ^
However-The line was not so good run blocking...
Untimely Penalties and poor field position also played into the offensive struggles.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:55 PM ^
The run game obviously struggled, but the way the defense was performing didn't help the offensive play calling. We were moving the ball well, making big plays when we needed. The biggest thing I wish we would have done differently is avoid the cuteness with the red zone playcalling, we should have targeted Butt, Darboh, or Chesson.. and I think we out thought ourselves there. The punt block penalty and lack of touchdowns in the red zone changed the momentum of the game.
November 28th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^
As this is a offense snowflake thread, the only thing I can say is offensive line. It confounds me that Indiana has a better OL than Michigan, and we just were bore the brunt of another elite OL.
It's like Hoke & Co. not only didn't develop Olinemen for a shit, but also didn't evaluate them properly either. How is it possible to be so bad a run blocking? So strange.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^
Two things killed them: (1) the utter lack of a run game (a perfect combo of poor blocking and terrible RB vision), (2) not converting TDs in the redzone twice. If those are both TDs, we're tied at halftime and actually stay in the game despite the defense's ineptness (would have been 28-21 rather than 28-13).
Of course no way the loss is on the O. Rudock did the best he could today.
We desperately need a RB. And better players at OL.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^
So Cole to Center next year, right? Yeesh, he got abused more than a few times today. Not even including when he got put in at RT against Bosa... WTF were they thinking there?
Edit: This is assuming Newsome is functional at LT next year of course.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:21 PM ^
Single blocking Bosa is a stupid idea as well. He wreaked havoc all over the place. Granted they moved him around but the OL were confused when they moved him around. He dominated every one on one matchups and ate the OT for lunch and dinner.
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November 28th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^
They tried double teaming Bosa. Though it's tough to do it on every play. Bosa had our Oline so worried and paranoid all day. I actually saw Kyle Kalis momentarily block an OSU player, then quickly set him free for a clean hard shot on Rudock. Kyle did it because he was going over to help block Bosa even though Bosa wasn't anywhere near Rudock. I thought that was so silly. Kyle has to continue blocking the player in front of him in that situation. We were so excited to get Kyle because he was a highly touted five star recruit, but the kid has been somewhat of a disappointment.
November 28th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^
What happened to him? I thought we were rolling when he was a major part of the offense.
We need OL, DL, RB's and fast LB's desperately
November 28th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
Gotta find better ways to run the ball. I'd really love to see Peppers used as a decoy on counters/fly sweeps
November 28th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
Hoke failed miserably at recruiting offensive lineman. Simple as that.
He got Darboh and Chesson right. Do those guys have another year? Butt might be our best TE ever to play here.
Jury is still out on RBs but they might not get the chance.
November 28th, 2015 at 7:26 PM ^
are both redshirt juniors.
November 28th, 2015 at 6:26 PM ^
Double Post
November 28th, 2015 at 6:16 PM ^
Wish the play calling was more aggressive when on their side of the field. We kicked 2 FG, they kicked 0. The FG when we were down 17 was a poor decision.
We were torching them in the air with short to medium routes but it seems we got away from that in the 2nd half.
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November 28th, 2015 at 6:30 PM ^
Our offense is predictable to put it gently. Always waste first down running with Smith. Then we fail to block on bubble screens on 2nd. Then we heave up 20 yard passes and sometimes get them. I'm sick of going on 9 minute drives only coming up with 3 points.
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November 28th, 2015 at 7:06 PM ^
Our Oline is bad at run blocking. Our backs would be ok if the line could block but they are not elite backs. We need to get more talent at both of those areas.
November 28th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^
This gets at an excellent point.
Think about all of the mismatches and personnel deficiencies we were trying to account for today. Doubling Bosa. Deploying Peppers as a lead back because we don't have one. Playing Perry extensively because there isn't another playable WR after Chesson and Darboh. Throwing constantly because the OL can't run block. And throwing mostly short because the receivers can't get separation.
Talent-wise, we have a long, long way to go.
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