Snowflakes, defensive edition - more alcohol necessary

Submitted by ckersh74 on

Because you can't have one without the other...

31 points surrendered. Pass rush from the front four non-existent for large swaths of the game. 

Secondary burned repeatedly. 

Fire away. 

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enlightenedbum

September 6th, 2014 at 11:11 PM ^

Awful corner play.  No pass rush.  Only positive was it seemed like Jake was more comfortable and played fine in the middle.  Which is literally the only positive from the entire night in any part of the game.

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corundum

September 6th, 2014 at 11:11 PM ^

Not having Morgan, Taylor, and Peppers definitely hurt, but having them wouldn't have changed the outcome. Countess was targeted to great success by ND, hopefully he can bounce back in the near future.

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MaximusBlue

September 6th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^

He got a G-pass all year last season and it's time for some accountability. Good ole bend don't break defense as usual. What happened to the press bump and run? Being so deep with the DB's. Where's that loaded vicious d-line? Did Hoke "feel" the D? I'm done.

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gwkrlghl

September 7th, 2014 at 12:10 AM ^

The DBs were indeed right in the ND WRs pockets all game long and maybe only got a step ahead and Golson put it right on the money time and time again. The D wasn't great, but Golson was epic.

Golson is probably the best QB we'll see this season. The DBs will look better when not playing a Heisman contender. Seriously, Golson was on his game tonight

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MGoblu8

September 6th, 2014 at 11:16 PM ^

Nothing good comes from a game like this. You got hammered in every facet of the game. You just have to tend to your wounded, rally the troops, and go back at it. That's all you can do.

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Chameleon Eyes

September 6th, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^

We're not who we thought we were. We all bought into the hype that this defense had turned the corner. I think the coaches thought they had a fantastic D with fantastic DBs, but failed to realize that this D is going up against an average offense with average WRs. We have no identity on D; and, four years into the Hoke era, that's a pathetic sentence to have to write.

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reshp1

September 6th, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^

I dunno, it made a pretty big difference. Countess and Hollowell got repeatedly torched  and that's where 80% of ND's yards came from. Could Peppers and Taylor done better? I don't know but they almost couldn't do worse. We hardly got a finger on receivers at the line and repeatedly gave up inside leverage. Not that it matters when your offense didn't score.. 

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Leonhall

September 6th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^

Can someone tell me why countess got #2? Just because he had a few int's last year? He struggles in coverage badly, and was exposed again tonight. Big problem is we have zero pass rush, that is the problem, in fact, that is the problem with whole team, if we were better up front on both sides, we'd be good.


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reshp1

September 6th, 2014 at 11:51 PM ^

I really want to believe we went down a couple pieces and the coaches were stuck running a scheme we didn't have the talent to run. Seemed like the game plan went out the window when Taylor went down.  Hollowell looked lost out there, Countess is just not a press coverage corner. We alternated between soft zone and getting burned in man and give Golson credit for picking us apart. 

I'm not too worried about pass rush just yet. I think ND's line is better than they get credit for and Golson's legs make staying in lanes and containing a higher priority.  

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CR7

September 7th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^

ND's offensive line is usually pretty good and they have 3 seniors on this years OL but I don't think that can be an excuse when they weren't tested. M rarely blitzed. They rarely tried to rattle Golson. Like I said when I was conversing with SC, I saw very few actual jams attempted. The DB's just danced with the wide receivers, There was no physicality, no aggressiveness.

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bamf16

September 7th, 2014 at 12:57 AM ^

I'm worried about the constant reliance on a guy who just isn't good enough to do what he's asked to do.  He's not big enough nor strong enough to anchor the end on running plays and he offers nothing of a pass rush.  It's great that he knows his assignments, but all that means is that he knows where he should be as the OT is manhandling him.

 

Time to coach up Charlton and Poggi to rotate in with Clark.  I hate the SDE and WDE designation in a 4 man front.  Too predictable and easy to scheme.  Get three DEs who know what the hell they're doing, and rely on them to rotate drives if need be.  How many other teams do we see rushing DL out on the field as UM's breaking its huddle?

 

Beyer is being asked to do more than he's capable of doing, just like Craig Roh was asked to do more than he was capable of doing playing an undersized DE in a 3 man front.

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ehatch

September 6th, 2014 at 11:56 PM ^

Horrible.  That was a terrible performance.  Golson hardly ever missed, but made it way too easy on him.  Through 2 games this defense has what 1 sack and 0 turnovers.  I don't consider that "aggressive".  

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BlueChitown

September 7th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^

. . . who isn't incredibly upset about the defensive play? Considering having our third stringers out there in the secondary. I put this one on the offense. If the offense makes it a game, takes pressure off the D, probably concede 24 and chance to win it. But when you turn the ball over 4 times and miss 2 FG, no chance. Also did not like those draw plays on 3 and long.

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bamf16

September 7th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^

in the first half, it was the defense that was getting its ass kicked more so than the offense.

 

ND ran 49 plays in the first half to UM's 28.  That disparity can't be understated.  After the first drive where ND punted then UM missed the FG, ND scored 3 TDs in its next 4 possessions, 4 TDs in 6 possessions if you extend it into the 3rd Q.

 

The offense clearly has holes and weaknesses, and you'll never win with 0 points on the board.  But when the game was in doubt, it was the defense that shat the bed.

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Frieze Memorial

September 7th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^

I have never seen a defense that makes opposing qbs look so good. Every damn one of them turns into a heisman finalist when they play us. And my only hope is that they'll start missing! Jesus, when will we take control of a game!

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Filipiak1

September 7th, 2014 at 1:31 AM ^

I don't know a lot about football. This year and against App St our DBs were going to play aggressive and jam WRs at the line. Our DBs played tight but didn't put their hands on them. They let them run by... What good is that?
Also for years I've been watching our defense give up 3rd and 15 all the time. We suck , then on offense we can't covert a 3rd down worth a damn.

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jdon

September 7th, 2014 at 1:47 AM ^

my problem is that we just keep doning the same thing... want to stop the slant, play some fucking zone asssholes...

and where is the aggression we were promised?

Mattison is like hoke junior: all talk, all hype, no production.

I haz a sad cause or defense no defend.

jdon

 

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An Angelo's Addict

September 7th, 2014 at 8:40 AM ^

2 games in and do we even have one turnover? Also not one sack from this game. It's become very obvious year after year that the reason for all the offseason hype is just a result of the Offense being average/bad and the defense getting overhyped. Whatever happened to the "right to rush 4"?

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