September 6th, 2014 at 11:35 PM ^
Backs are slow and can't find the right lane
Receivers just stood in place-No separation
Defense is an embarrassment - Other than a few run stops, Golson stopped himself, we never did
Special teams do nothing
Coaches making no adjustments
D backs are a JOKE
Yes, O line was bad, but they are far from the specific reason we were embarrassed.
September 7th, 2014 at 6:58 AM ^
I agree with this point. I know the O-line has issues but I think the offensive problems are larger than that. -Can't believe how slow the running backs look. I know Brian talks about it being OK to not have breakaway speed but it's not OK if yu also have no quickness or burst, and that's what it lookslike with Green and Smith. Never seen UM running backs this slow. -They don't have any game breakers at the WR position. I know Funchess is a big, physical receiver that can win a jump ball down the field but I don't think teams respect him, or any other receiver, as a true deep threat. This allows the other team to cheat the safeties up, leaving more potential defenders in the throwing lanes. Maybe he doesn't know the offense yet, but Canteen needs to see the field as a true deep threat, something I don't think Darboh or Chesson can provide. Teams won't back up unless you consistently beat them deep. -The game might have passed Mattison by. He was a great 90's coordinator but has struggled to adjust when teams spread him out. What's the signature defensive performance of the last 4 years? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm actually trying to think of one. -Brian was right on Twitter, putting Manning as the coach of the DBs might not have been the best idea Hoke's ever had.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^
Nebraska 2011, probably. Maybe ND 2012. Either way, far too long ago.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^
I've wanted him for years. I loved Bosie St.
What good is all the money Brandon has made for the program if he can't spend it?
September 7th, 2014 at 12:15 AM ^
Recent guys have come out of there looking really sexy only to be decidely 'meh' on the big stage. Houston Nutt and Dan Hawkins both got picked up by bigger programs and did nothing notable
September 7th, 2014 at 12:26 AM ^
Imagine what he could do with even better athletes. That was an awesome program.
September 7th, 2014 at 1:17 AM ^
...some guy who was getting to BCS bowl games with West Virginia.
September 7th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^
big time programs? Did he go into Georgia and manhandle the Dogs at home (who later won their division), or VT, Oregon, Oklahoma? I don't think he did.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
Hoke will never do it, but it might help the team to let Funk go right now, like Wisconsin did with their o-line coach at this point a couple of seasons ago. My biggest concern is that the demoralizing nature of this loss may ruin the psyche of a lot of our players for the rest of the season, like Akron last year. Being proactive right now and letting the team know that their head coach isn't going to sit by and let the season fall apart again could help morale.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:34 PM ^
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September 7th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^
He's more a Jimbo Fisher type - long time coordinator/head coach in waiting. Beamer will likely retire in the next couple of years.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:38 PM ^
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September 6th, 2014 at 11:45 PM ^
John Beilein . . . For helping to bring one Michigan sport back from the depths of despair. Here's hoping that your success will rub off on whoever will be Michigan's next head football coach.
September 6th, 2014 at 11:47 PM ^
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September 7th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^
There was nothing good about this performance. Another egg on the road. I don't know what Hoke is doing to prepare for road games, but he needs to change drastically. After the missed field goal and the 2 PI calls, this team just seemed to fold as soon as we faced the slightest bit of adversity. I think it highly questionable to have no captains on a team. Zero leadership.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^
Other than recruiting pipeline tell me ONE THING this program is better at than the second the clock hit 00:00 vs Mississippi State.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:24 AM ^
Unfortunately there were so many negative factors surrounding RR that he had to go - he lost the team, lost the fans and lost his ability to recruit at michigan - but we certainly haven't improved our program since his firing.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:41 AM ^
Under RR, the offense was in decent shape but the defense was a train wreck.
Under Hoke, the defense is in decent shape but the offense is a train wreck.
September 7th, 2014 at 8:48 AM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^
didn't denard roll up huge yardage and Ws against ND? or maybe i missed something.
September 7th, 2014 at 6:09 PM ^
Yes, we actually beat a Kelly-coached ND team on the road not too long ago (with that offense that Hoke defenders claim was completely ineffective against real teams). We haven't beat any of our rivals on the road under Hoke. (Wasn't that supposed to be one of Brandon's evaluation guideposts?)
September 7th, 2014 at 12:08 AM ^
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September 7th, 2014 at 12:20 AM ^
Running the ball mutiple times and using up the entire playclock down 28 was annoying me as well. Pretty much showed the coaches had conceded the game with that little urgency being shown.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:08 AM ^
Bottom has been found. The coaches need to move the team steadily up from here and quick. We have 10 more games to do that. We knew this team was going to struggle early, probably not this badly (especially defensively,) but regardless this season is about improving, not necessarily the record or score. If they can't show meaningful improvement then changes need to happen. That's all that needs to be said at this point.
September 7th, 2014 at 1:17 AM ^
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for believing this is bottom.
having watched many of our opponents we will be fortunate to win 5 games.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:13 AM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 12:16 AM ^
We finally have depth again. I don't want to wreck it by firing a whole staff and sending Michigan make deeper into the wilderness for several more years.
Maybe fire Hoke and promote Nuss if you can manage it
September 7th, 2014 at 2:33 AM ^
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September 7th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
It's not going to get any better. This is the same thing we've seen for the past few years.
Name him interm and it upsets the recruiting very little. His resume from Washington and Alabama merits the opportunity. If he shits the bed DB can still make a change.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
I can't believe how many people have decided Nuss sucks based on a single performance. I am donating so many MGoPoints to negging people today. GET A GRIP
September 7th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
September 7th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^
Let's summarize performance to date:
Year 1: 11-2 (Bowl victory w/mostly RR team).
Year 2: 8-5 (Bowl Loss)
Year 3: 7-6 (Blowout Bowl Loss)
Year 4: 1-1 so far (Blowout Loss to ND, first ever shutout in the series history)
Dave Brandon's Standard (Red Letter Games):
2-2 vs. ND (RR was 2-1)
1-2 vs. MSU
1-2 vs. OSU
1-2 vs. Nebraska
1-2 vs. Iowa
0-5 on the road against top 25.
3-7 in last 10 games (borrowed from another post-3 wins were a miracle against Northwestern, against Indiana giving up 47 pts, and App St).
No one is getting fired mid-season, but I don't see how we wind up beating MSU or OSU on the road.
The icing on the cake for me was when Kelly commented at the end of the game how they had to play 19 freshmen or RS freshman in this game yet somehow clobbered UM was stunning. I thought you couldn't win with youth.
I told everyone I knew that I felt like UM would win this game, but to lose like this is akin to RR losing to Mississippi State in the blowout bowl game.
September 7th, 2014 at 12:43 AM ^
because they suck. Their offense is exactly like ours, the OL can't block anyone and the QB is always running for his life.
Not MSU, though.
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September 7th, 2014 at 1:39 AM ^
we have all become losers around here.
Gardner is a loser, because hoke is a loser.
When went 7-5 and were content, not happy, but angry enough, because the five teams were good... we were losers.
Last year when we almost beat OSU, but we didn't and we accepted it. We were losers. Not brian thought, I give him that....
This team, these coaches and these players, don't hate losing... they, and we accept it and try to put the best, most positive face on it... I get it, becasue it is human nature...
but we have become losers...
I want a coach who hates losing, so we can have players who hate losing, so we can have fans who don't have to tolerate losing...
that is what I think of our coaches. For the first time ever. fire hoke. I am done with him.
and I am done making excuses. we are at the nadir of our program...
September 7th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
We're "losers" because winning doesn't come first in the system. If you listen to Hoke, he talks about producing character young men first, followed by producing good students. I don't disagree with those things, but he really never talks about winning. If asked what the goal is, it's winning the Big Ten Championship. But the over arching theme isn't winning. It's not "We want to be a winning program," it's "we are the winningest program already," as if winning is a thing of the past. There doesn't seem to be much concern in keeping that going, at least as far as the the brand talking points go.
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