The Snowflake Thread: Offense

We dont have one.

But Nuss showed some emotion, so we got that.

I'm pretty sure no one died.

I like Nuss. The plays are there but the talent isn't

Opened the playbook on the last drive to break the TD-less streak.  Would've liked to have seen that earlier.

 

WR must use hands and catch.

maybe someone else need to go soon.  The development seems a bigger issue than playcalling or scheme or anything else.  

they had a good week of practice

BUT, he is not a very good QB.  He has poor field vision and ability to see open receivers.  He shows poor judgement.  He caves in when there's the least amount of pressure.  At this point, the decision is whether we keep Devin in in the slim hope we can become bowl eligible and be able to get the extra practices, or we start developing the future QB and put Morris in as the starter.  Either way, I'm not looking forward to the rest of the season.  The offensive coaching is very poor and will not improve.  Very depressing.

The oline wasn't bad today, didn't dominate but Gardner should be done, he's not a qb. Let Shane finish the year, there is no point to roll Gardner out there anymore, put Shane in and give him experience. Course he won't because, "Gardner gives us the best chance" yeah whatever. I thought state looked average today, and that's no disrespect. If we had a qb, we would have been right in it.

I'm sure this point has been made before but does it not seem like if you have a. Top-rated dual-threat qb you should call plays that take advantage of both threats?

I mean I get the Devin bashing but it seems like half or more of his skills are not being deployed.

I don't question Devin's toughness, though I find it strange that unless he's limping, he's as useless as tits on a boar hog most of the time. What happened to the 2012 Devin?

In the words of my dad over Facetime right after a game, a diehard since his freshman year in 1970, "maybe if they had played Atomic Dog for Norfleet, maybe this would have been totally different." /s

Kids are soft, playcalling is iffy, we've got a quarterback throwing Stanley Jackson INTs to no one... There's not much to save here. See you in 2015.

can't even dive for the pylon in the endzone correctly.

How many times was our offense in Spartan territory in the first half and came away with no points. 

This offense continually pisses all over good field possition.

....and, FIRE BRANDON!

Justice Hayes looked good at least. I think with the right coach he could tear it up next year

Based on what Nuss did at Bama, I tend to believe he's not the problem.  Like Bama, we've got a roster of man-ball players.  Not as deep, and lower ranked coming in, though not by much - especially on the line.  So I'm thinking we should at least see a poor-man's Bama offense of recent years, which would have us in a much better place right now.  So what's up?  My factors:

1) It's still the first year of this system.  Can't totally ignore that.  But really shouldn't be an issue by mid-season.  

2) The glaring difference on those rosters is at QB.  McCarron was a great game-mgr type, which this offense is screaming for - ball protecting distributor 1st, athlete 2nd.  Devin/Shane not yet up to that task - you can argue about protection, but hard to put it all on the OL, which brings up...

3) Lack of development seems the biggest issue.  Especially the OL.  From a QB standpoint, I don't know what's reasonable to expect Nuss to have done by this time in his first year.

4) Lack of intensity.  I want to think everybody's giving their all, but this team just seems so flat.  The Devins were good examples of that today - heads not in the game.  Or is this what a poorly developed team looks like.

I am not saying that I want our O to be a clone of Nuss' Bama O - I was thinking it would be similar (run oriented) but probably less conservative.  But that was at the start of the season when I thought we'd kick ass.  So is this a fair assessment of Nuss?  If you think he's the problem, please elaborate.

So what about all these high 4* and 5* guys.  Why do we have no talent?  It's not like the coaches hypnotize the players into forgetting how to play. 

It's like they sign with Michigan and simply stop trying to get better.  It seems to have started with the 5* RB out of GR, several years ago.  He came here and never amounted to anything. Gardner, Funchess, any Olinemen you can name.  How can one group of coaches be so completely incompetant that they totally suck all the talent out of these guys?

How the fuck did this useless staff ever get hired?  Nuss have to be good right?  He worked with Saban.  He seemed to run some great plays today, but no one on this team can catch, throw or block.  It just amazes me.  They looked like a high school team compared to MSU.

 

Just a bad offense.  And as far as talent., we played a more talented team today and that was obvious.  I'd love to have MSU's talent on or team not to mention their coaching.  You do not get whipped on the lines man on man like we did most of the game by less talented players.

With an offense this bad it cannot simply be coaching OR talent- it has to be both- Nuss seems less imaginative than Borges (but maybe better run blocking)

What is up with our Oline? They whiffed so many blocks that resulted in sacks or lost yards from the RB. It was unbelievable the consistency of their derpitude.....terrible.

Is it me or do our WRs drop a lot more passes than other teams'?  Yes, sometimes Gardner hangs them out to dry a bit but there were definitely some plays to be made today that they failed on.