The Snowflake Thread: Defense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on

This will be the repository for snowflakes regarding the defense and defensive playcalling

I Like Burgers

September 13th, 2014 at 10:46 PM ^

This Utah game is starting to look like all sorts of problems for Michigan.  They've scored 50+ in both of their games.  Our offense is going to need to score and score often I think.

And watching this Rutgers game, I'm also becoming terrified of losing on the road to Rutgers.  How awful would that be?

reshp1

September 14th, 2014 at 12:30 AM ^

I was trying to stay off the hype train, but now after finally seeing him play a full game plus, I have to say I'm really impressed. Obviously he was out for the one good opponent we faced, but the guy has a knack for staying on his man and being physical. He routinely ran his guy right into the sideline and when they tried to cross inside, he usually got an authoriative jam on. He was also fantastic in run support, flying in from offscreen to make "I Be Like Dang" tackles.

LSAClassOf2000

September 13th, 2014 at 6:54 PM ^

We held Miami to 198 yards, so like others have said, we did pitch a pretty good game on this side of the ball as we might expect. Actually, it was 198 yards on 59 plays, which comes out to an average give of 3.36 yrds per play. In the case of Miami almost all of this was passing yardage, of course, so buried in there is 1.4 yards per rush allowed. Running on our defense is...difficult, which I like. 

ZB75

September 13th, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^

loved the defense today.  hope taylor can get back in the lineup really soon.  this unit really let me down last week.  good effort today.  see what happens next week. 

bronxblue

September 13th, 2014 at 6:59 PM ^

Great performance; really probably deserved to have a shutout.  I still have concerns about the secondary just because they let WRs free more than you'd like (Hendrix really should have had a couple of longer completions with a bit more touch), but the line obviously caused a number of those false starts and, overall, the unit looked solid.  LBs look to be coming into their own a bit more as well.

Krakhead

September 13th, 2014 at 8:46 PM ^

I do not think Frank Clark is playing up to the hype.  He had a solid performance, but when you consider the opposition I would expect more beastmode.  I do think he is playing smarter than a season ago, but he looks a little slower and and overall less likely to rage his way to a sack.

CompleteLunacy

September 13th, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^

But still better than the ND game. Having Peppers made a tangible difference. They still let guys get a little separation, but not too much at least. Their QB was really feeling the blitz pressure.

Leonhall

September 13th, 2014 at 9:34 PM ^

to see countess take some snaps at safety, but that would be tough on him unless he's taken a lot of reps there in practice. i don't think it is too shocking to see him fall from 1st team, countess looked good as a freshman, i know last season he had a lot of int's but i never thought of him as being a dominant CB.

SalvatoreQuattro

September 13th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^

That's awfully impressive consideirng the lack of turnovers and sacks. UM has take a step towards defensive dominance. The next step is turnovers and sacks.

 

I actually like the coverage today. No one was running wide open and the plays the men from Oxford(NTO) made UM had guys right there.  Considering the absence of Taylor and Wilson I was happy.

Magnum P.I.

September 13th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^

D looked pretty good. Nice to see Peppers out there--kid has an edge to him. Lots of Miami receivers getting open, though, which was concerning. Lucky for us, Hendrix is not Everett Golson and missed a lot of opportunities. I give our front seven credit for some of those misses.

Wolverine Devotee

September 13th, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^

Defense played outstanding. Even with 3 starters out.

After looking at this game, Michigan was in no danger whatsoever of losing. Would've been a shutout without the turnovers.

Great to see Peppers back. 

Beat utah

alum96

September 13th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^

Teams are going to attack the defense via pass all year.  Run defense looks stout; all 3 games.  Still issues in coverage.  Safeties were not too good but lets remember our only experienced safety is out with an injury.  Thought Lewis was ok and Peppers was solid.  I like that they tested Peppers so much and he did fine.  Pass rush was "better" but nothing special and I still didnt see collapsing of a bad team'sOL - same issue as game 1. There were moments but not consistent and the short game was there if they had better quality players.

I will be interested to see how Utah attacks us.  I think this defense dominates a Minnesota type team that cannot throw.  Any team that can throw we know how they will attack.  Maryand, PSU MSU etc I see issues.

Hoping these Taylor and Wilson injuries are not long term. 

Leonhall

September 13th, 2014 at 9:38 PM ^

the best CB we have. he has great closing speed and actually knows how to play the ball when it gets near the receiver. if/when he gets healthy, i think they need to get him back to returning punts or on offense. ondre pipkens is a mystery, either he isnt even close to 100% or something else is going on. i really wish between taco, wormley, or willie, somebody would get more push up the middle. I think Mone is going to be a beast eventually.

Ron Utah

September 14th, 2014 at 12:35 AM ^

This defense, IMO, doesn't have many problems, but they are big problems and they are in the secondary.

Countess gave-up another easy slant (on fourth down) and got lucky with the Miami player dropping the ball.  TV called it "great coverage," but giving up the inside is unacceptable.

Lewis was beaten on a deep post and we were saved by a bad throw and an even worse adjustment to the pass.

Right now, our coverage is just not very good.  Peppers and Lewis look capable, but not great.  No one else can seem to play man.  The safety help has been average, at best.

I'm afraid Utah is going to tear us up.

MChem83

September 14th, 2014 at 8:21 AM ^

until we actually play a team with a decent running game.  Miami is not such a team.  We were solid, but not that great.  Only one sack and one turnover against a team this weak does not impress, and we left a LOT of receivers open.  

Except for Ryan, our linebackers are pretty much invisible and no-impact, and no one on the Dline has stepped up to impress.  I'm concerned that once the Big Ten starts, this D will not keep us in many games.

I dumped the Dope

September 14th, 2014 at 8:37 AM ^

To start, Monne, from the few times I watched him directly they double-teamed him.  If he can work that into a starting role it would be the another step forward for this defense.

Miami definitely targeted Peppers and I think he did great, he was following the receiver without regard for sideline and tracking the ball the whole time (which I view as intense concentration and ability).  I thought he did a nice job in run support when the play was obvious ground.

I'm not a football technician but it seems like with two wideouts, the safeties could do a better job jumping inside of the route to lessen the window that an opposing QB has to throw.  Seems like the CB island is mostly good but the receiver has a big advantage with the inside position as the CB always has to protect against a game-changing double move/long ball.  However having a safety to fall into the short flat if its a pass play seems like it would make it a lot different (meaning harder) for a QB.  Maybe I'm 100% wrong and the CB should try to jump if he sees the opportunity and rely on safety help deep (?)

Ryan did a great job in pursuit as always and made the guy in front of me laugh a couple of times when he was on an angle and at top speed to blow up a QB running to sideline but just sort of "scared" him out of bounds.  Smart football not to incur a penalty.  I'm going to take a go-back to last week on the penalty when he gave the QB a Viking Push.  I would think that would be entirely appropriate after watching some other games, really its completely along the lines of not making hard contact with the QB and absolutely no helmet is involved.  You just knock the guy down assuming its a reasonable part of the play.  Hope the refs are reading my post (lol).

So back to JMFR, I think its naturally a challenge for him to read, read, read at the snap rather than exploding off the ball but I think he's getting it down.  Bolden also did a nice job yesterday, hoping for Morgan to come back soon as I like his play as well.

Frank Clark seems to be about 1 step short on 10 different plays.  So I read that as a solid overall effort.  Beyer got there as did Taco, Beyer was able to finish the deal, Taco is a little slower and got beaten in a footrace.  I think as the secondary play tightens, the Dline is close enough to get some QB contact.

All in all, I would say solid defensive performance, obviously a few things to work on, but we look very serviceable in current form especially with some injuries.

 

Chiwolve

September 14th, 2014 at 10:02 AM ^

It really depends on the coverage they are playing to determine who should be stopping the inside routes. Basic cover 2 usually sees the corners shaded inside of WRs and forcing them to release outside - LBs would typically be responsible for crossing routes. Cover 3 would again be the LBs and one of the safeties. Cover 1 - aka man to man - responsibility would depend on who is crossing and LBs and one of the safeties should be able to provide some support depending on where on the field the ball is thrown.

Blarvey

September 14th, 2014 at 8:52 AM ^

I don't care if it was Miami (NTM). It was great to see a collapsing pocket in week 3.

Ryan, Thomas, Bolden, Mone, and Peppers all seemed to have good games.