November 23rd, 2013 at 3:24 PM ^
We can bitch all we want about Borges but it is Hoke who employs him and defends him.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:24 PM ^
Denard regressed, bellomy was horrific and devin regressed. hmmmm i think i see a pattern
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
half. you can blame Borges. Howerver, Gardner continues topaly with his head up his a@$. so balme that on Fester also. when will the embarrassment end.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:28 PM ^
Spelling and grammar. You aren't good at it.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:33 PM ^
When all else fails, log in to post attack on someone's typing.
Adding to thread about football, you aren't good at it.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:28 PM ^
Almost like Gardner doesn't have a good QB coach.
Oh.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^
It's very difficult when you're used to being pummeled every play.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
I dont feel any emotion when michigan loses anymore...
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
You should create a thread about that.
/jk
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
^This. Sad kittens.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:30 PM ^
So true. Nothing surprises me anymore. It's come to a point where inompetence on offense is expected.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:30 PM ^
I laughed when Gardner fumbled the ball. I have NEVER laughed at my own team's misfortunes in my entire life...and I'm a Philly sports fan (where incompetence is a tradition)!
I am trying to find a reason to go to the Ohio game during the lead up to finals, and I'm struggling. Do I really want to watch Ohio players have fun sh*tting all over our team?
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
Jim bob.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
All I think is "so this is what it felt like to be a Notre Dame fan in the 2000's"
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
There really is something to be said for the defense struggling because the offense was so putrid. No confidence that the other half of your team can actually help you. As a Chicago Bears fan, this team is ALL too reminiscent for bears early 2000 teams, with an OC of John Shoop (current OC of Purdue).
Just make it end. Happiness is a dying star right now. They explosion next week will be spectacular.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:34 PM ^
Ha, I'm a bears fan and I've made that exact reference to the John Shoop era. It feels exactly the same. The worst part was that for both teams, whenever there was a rare moment the offense did open things up and try some new stuff, it worked! But its like both Shoops and Borges then think "Whoa whoa whoa. That worked once because the D didn't expect it. Now lets get back to running into 9 man fronts in the hopes of setting up one PA pass 7 plays from now".
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
All you Borges supporters? Why should he stay? I don't care what your response is after today. He is horrible.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^
Cause 75% of the plays he calls have zero chance of gaining a yard? That takes talent to be that bad.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:34 PM ^
But I would only fault Al on about 8 calls today, better than the usual 15-20... This team is a shitshow. It's the coaches, players, trainers, the whole frickin team... How could anyone expect the d to hold up any longer after the O kept it up with the 3 and outs? How could we expect a 14 point lead to be enough on the road at the half? It's like we played well during the first half, then said ok Iowa, it's your turn, then watched as they took the game away.
Last week I thought we had no business winning that game the way we played. This week I feel we had no business losing this game we had our foots on their throat and let up.
November 23rd, 2013 at 5:42 PM ^
I'll give you 8 with one comment--we ran at least 8 times from the I and, AS ALWAYS, got less than a yard each time. There is no reason EVER for this team to even once run from the I. We have never, ever, had the smallest level of success there, yet we keep doing it. Guh.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
I'm actually pretty worried about next week. I really think that we could be looking down the wrong end of a shutout next week. I think this game just justifies all the worries. Whether play calling or shitty players, we just plan suck something aweful on offense and have no idea how to uh, well be an offense. It's not something that'll be fixed over a couple of weeks of bowl prep. Michigan fans...It's going to be a long offseason!!!
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
Going 11-2 our first year was the worst thing that could have happened to us. Because now, we give the coaches so much lee-way and rope to explain by means of youth, inexperience and the implementation of a pro-style offense to be excuses to why we lose to teams like PSU, Iowa and Nebraska whose rosters can't compare to ours. The coaches, particularly Borges, haven't done a thing in my opinion to justify their income. Since Akron, how content are you with the teams progression and style of play? Since Akron, can you honestly say that we are headed in the right direction? Next Saturday, we will be out coached, schemed and out played by our bitter rival for the 10th time in 11 years. We've lost to State 5 out of the past 6. This program is nothing but a relic, of what it used to be. It is almost like when Bo died, the ability to be competent and win died with him.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^
BS. You can't say winning is bad at all.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
We won a BCS bowl game and beat our our rivals for the first time in years. That's never a bad thing.
Hoke sticking with that terrible OC (I can't say his name anymore) is the worst thing that ever happened.
November 23rd, 2013 at 4:21 PM ^
Sorry, but this is so much bullshit on so many levels, and such sentiment expressed in Brodie's thread a couple of weeks ago.
First, "we" didn't go 11-2 in our 1st year, Hoke went 11-2 in his first year at Michigan. And he did it exclusively with Rodriguez' players. The trajectory was there, and Rodriguez stated, long before he was fired, that he expected a great year.
All that first year do was paper over what was a very uninspiring hire. There was no major program in the country that EVER considered Hoke a viable candidate to coach their program at the time.
None.
Hoke was a mediocre hire but was provided with far more resources than Rodriquez ever was for assistant coach hires. The team has regressed to what he is (which, at Michigan, a coach is spotted a few wins, so mediocre is 8-5). None of this is surprising.
Next week will be painful for the team. But next year, with OSU, MSU and Notre Dame all on the road? A record of 9-4 is the most optimistic, with 8-5 probably the most optimistic. And 8-5 is what Michigan is. That is what Hoke's hire was all about, not 11-2.
Rodriquez' hire was a swing for the fences, Hoke's was an attempted bunt single.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
- Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
- The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
- And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
- But there is no joy in Ann Arbor — 'cause Borges is a fuckin' lout.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
because most of us have NO CLUE about anything having to do with football, BUT Al is the worst OC in the history of this school and THAT is saying something.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:26 PM ^
Has Al Borges created a new, super-evolved level of terrible coaching? I think YES!!!!
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
What exactly does Hoke do? If he weren't here and we just had no head coach, what would be different?
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
Team 134 is the most hyped team that sucks dick. Lott industries would put up a better fight against Iowa than we did we suck dick. In fact more dick than a slut on the corner of grime and mcfilth street
November 23rd, 2013 at 5:45 PM ^
please
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
The more you watch Michigan the more it reminds of Charlie Weis Notre Dame. Big recruits, big talk, not good football
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:47 PM ^
It is so painful that there is no real retort to that...
November 23rd, 2013 at 5:26 PM ^
At least we are not as bad as Florida.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
Outcoached once again. Nothing else to say.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
Roushar available?
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:28 PM ^
Except fire Borges!!
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^
they were outplayed. They once again had plays out there to be made and they miss a block or drop the ball or cut right when the lane was left. And the same is true of the defense. Mattison comes out of the locker room for the second half and says they can't give up any big plays...and they promptly give up a big play.
Maybe that's the problem with this staff. They try so hard to prevent mistakes they paralyze the players.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^
Of course there were plays to be made. Unless a team is playing baby seal U. it almost always leaves plays on the field. Perfect execution is a myth. Are we executing less often than most teams? Absolutely. But it's not all about talent. This offense is far more talented than the 2008 team and the play has been as bad or worse than that team that had every legitimate excuse in the book for why it sucked. At some point you have to simply accept the obvious explanation: our coaching staff, at least on the offensive side of the ball, is not very good.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
No ones allowed to talk about firing Borges around here. Its clear he or the entire offensive coaching staff is not capable of putting together a gameplan that allows this team to succeed. It really seems like a combination of lazy play calling and poor decisions by multiple players on any given play.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:50 PM ^
No one's allowed to talk about firing Borges??? What forum are you reading?
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
Purdue put up 266yds of offense on Iowa. Michigan 158.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
Im about to jump off the Hoke wagon...This season has been a complete fiasco
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
The fatso calling plays does this against every good defense. They do the same thing and he has nothing to counter a good blitzing defense or just any thing at all. He runs all the same plays and has zero creativity. He is the dumbest OC Michigan has ever had. There is a reason everywhere he goes he doesn't stay long. ITS BECAUSE HE SUCKS.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^
A chess match"
-Al Borges
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
I wouldn't trust him at checkers either. And we know he sucks at rock, paper, scissors.
I don't know, maybe heads / tails?
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
He would out schemed at heads/tails.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
This is pretty much the worst. I don't even know which thread I want to start in, so I'll just leave it here. Fire everyone except Mattison.
November 23rd, 2013 at 4:03 PM ^
Mallory and Manning seem to be pretty good too.