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good luck with that
We are talking about coaching
Hoke is Charlie Weiss.
Weiss 9-3 first season with Willingham's players.
10-3 second season
exposed in 3rd season at 3-9
despite top 5-10 recruiting classes, the fall into mediocrity continues with 7-6 and 6-6 seasons in year 4 and 5.
Hoke is Charlie Weiss. Accept it.
Weis was exposed in the BCS games. The 3-9 year was a result of Willingham's interest in golfing over recruiting.
Not sure how much coaching has taken place - or been ingrained within the team. Most college teams get better week to week - very untrue with Michigan - which goes back directly to coaching. Gardner - who looked competent at the beginning of the year - now looks skittish. Fitz is useless - can't block and can't run forward unless completely the field is completely clear for him. Line does us no favors, but when my 8 year old twins can predict the plays - it's a really bad sign.
Fire Funk. I'm finally climbing on that bandwagon.
After 9 games of this utter garbage and that's the only bandwagon you're climbing on?
internet tough guy
1. No need to take his comment personally. This is a sports blog and we're talking sports which really doesn't require anger towards another fan asking a reasonable question.
2. Funk needed to go months ago. Borges obviously needed to go since maybe 2-3 weeks ago. The question is whether Brady should go with them.
where Schofield completely let a guy go past him like toussaint was going to pick him up. Even Spielman called him out. This isn't a rookie thing, it's an entire o line thing. . .
I remember that play -- my first thought was "wow, he really showed some elusiveness right there. Maybe he should go out for HB, 'cuz his skills are totally wasted at a position where his job is to get in the opponents' way...
Players need to execute. That's the solution. All that's needed. It's the players. Duh.
Did the players execute? Did they not make some bonehead plays(bad snaps, poor blocking, not adjusting protections when necessary)? It's true, they did nit executed Al wasn't perfect but the players are playing like crap too.
Nebraska has one of the worst defenses in the country and gifted us a muffed punt at a critical juncture and we chose to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down for negative yardage. This is pathetic by itself but when you consider this team has like -100000 yards rushing the last 2 weeks its unforgivable. Borges is a fucking idiot.
in two games. . .
Solution to pressure is quick throws to the outside. borges is calling overly complicated routes that take too long to develop. Spielman was making a lot of sense this game, can he be our offensive coordinator?
I felt like it was overtime at Penn State again.
yes, but that's a balloon filled with helium, so GIVE BORGES A PROMOTION!
I was at the game and everyone around me saw it the same way. The play calling was terrible. Running on 1st and 2nd down continuously. Gardiner (who's confidence is clearly shaken) was continuously put in 2nd and 3rd and long situations. He was put in a position to fail most of the day.
Mattison continues to confound me as well. This is the 3rd loss when we needed defensive stops and the defensive backs are 10-15 yard off the line of scrimage.
Penn State - Offense gives a 10 point cushion in the 4th and they stop attacking defensively. They let a freshman QB pick them apart.
Michigan State - Michigan ties the game at 6 before the half and the defense plays bend but don't break w/defensive backs 10+ off the line of scrimmage - result TD before the half. Then to start the 2nd half, same story. Game effectively over at that point.
Nebraska - Michigan goes ahead 13-10 late in the 4th and the very next possession the defensive backs were off the ball 10+ yards. I don't know how many 3rd down plays we saw today where the defensive backs were so far off the receivers they started on the other side of the first down marker, then would back pedal and let the receivers catch the ball in front of them for the 1st down.
They made a 3rd string Nebraska QB drive right down the field. They have made every QB this year look like a Hall of Famer in crunch time and that IS SCHEME.
PLAY AGGESSIVE DEFENSE THE WHOLE DAMN GAME ALREADY! Earn your salary!
Well coached players execute.
I'm hearing all this debate about poor coaching or poor execution. Poor execution isn't a separate issue but an extension of poor coaching. Right now this offensive coaching staff is looking like a Ball State staff.
Hard to execute when you are running into a loaded box. We are not Stanford, we haven't shown the ability tu get positive yards when the defense loads the box.
I was partially defending Borges last week even though I don't like him as an OC just because that game was such a total debacle against a very good defense that it was pointless and lots of people were just being dicks about it. But come on, this game was utterly indefensible. -21 yards rushing against a terrible DL and rush defense. They actually played worse in this one than against State. That's impressive. They probably won't win a game the rest of the year.
RR's defenses could shut down this Michigan offense. That's not even a joke.
How can the players execute when their OC has no overall offensive philosophy other than gadget plays and formations that are thrown in as the season progresses? The fact that the players are young only makes having some sort of overall plan even more imperative. What exactly is Al's offensive philosophy other then pray for lots of talent and upperclassmen to gloss over his haphazard playcalling
the players not executing every game is the coaches' fault. That's why there are coaches. Even as someone who hasn't criticized the coaching til this point all season, I don't think there's any way to even imply it isn't primarily the coaches' faults at this point.
The offensive numbers are consistently beyond even understandable failure.
I am now officially on the fire bandwagon. OC. OL.
Care to tell me why Fred Jackson is getting a pass?
If we don't have a RB who can pass block, whose fault is that?
He's been here too long, and I'm too emotionally attached to him to let him go. I just settled on Fire Borges today. And he actually has been here through a lot of great running backs/ games. But give me time.
They do look like crap but the coaches have gotten 0% out of them. Did you see what Mattison could do in yr 1 with the "least talented" defense ever. Gardner has only gotten worse and our play calling ignores our best play makers. That's on the coaches.
Honestly it's not about the QB, O-Line or RB play... It's not about blocking, it's about predictability in play calling and more importantly this pathetic attempt to run the ball from under center or otherwise!!
I don't understand why Borges is insisting on playing such a bonehead plan! In the past when our team couldn't establish a run early, they'd start passing! Now nooooo, we try to run it again, must've been an execution problem... Once, twice, thrice, until we're down in the game with 2 mins to go and a needed TD.. Even then, I'm sure Borges still thought about running..
My coaching experience doesn't go beyond NCAA football 2014 on PS3 and I'd have the common sense to stop running the ball if I faced what Michigan has faced today defensively!! That is just wrong!! This was our win and we just handed it away.. This is all on the coaching staff.. The kids played their hearts out there, didn't turn the ball over and got 2 turnovers, just to be beaten by their offensive coordinator!
Too bad.. go Blue! Let's hope we have a chance when OSU comes to town!!
^^^ you are not stupid. ^^^ you are wise beyond your years, and I don't even know how old you are.
OSU 52 - UM 10. Book it.
Is high, Ohio is coming in planning on proving a point. We get a field goal, I'll be surprised.
So you're calling for a defensive TD? Bold move.
I predicted 55-13
I think the defense will put up a fight, but after halftime it'll be about as much fun as a root canal: 30-3
Funk and Borges aren't getting fired. Our fearless leader said so himself. Comments and posts about it are pointless
I doubt Brian thought that there was any chance we would lose out. That seems like a distinct possibility now. Some of these points have more validity than you think.
Better be prepared to find a new job if he plans on sticking with them. And he needs to wear a headset cause our coaches aren't good enough to make their own choices. Unless he has no balls to override what they call or maybe he just is stupid and only knows defense. Just pissed that I could have done a better job then Borges. And I have no coaching experience.
Brian is a fan like us and he gets things wrong all the time like we all do. Hoke and Borges aren't invincible and if DB hears more ciriticism from wealthy boosters and fewer fans renew their season tix then he'll make moves.
I feel relatively confident that Hoke is not going anywhere based on a 6 year contract that has him as the 8th highest paid coach in the NCAA. Is it possible that Borges and Funk aren't going anywhere because Hoke is demanding this style? Is he trying to instill a power run game with a trial by fire approach?
If that is not the reason, we should wonder why Hoke continues to defend the playcalling and coaching.
when they have few years left in their contract all the time. What's even worse is not renewing the contract when coaches has less than 2 years left, it's telling people that they don't have confidence on the coach. The standard is to extend contract to help recruiting.
The problem with Borges isn't only, or even mostly, the playcalling.
It's the entire philosophy of the offense, the way they are taught, and the way they are built.
And it's a failure.
I no longer wish to defend anything about his coaching, even the stuff that I think is unfair. I have no energy for it. Numbers don't lie.
And the numbers are bad.
I'm fully on board the "Fire Borges" bandwagon now.
It's not just the playcalling, as mentioned here. It's that he's shown he has no idea how to use available talent to best effect. Gardner is not and never will be a pocket QB. So don't use him as such.
The fact that Borges continues to think he can mold Gardner into some rock-steady pocket QB convicts Borges of gross incompetence.
Gardner shows flashes of what he could be when he runs out of the gun, rolls out and hits short passes. Borges either doesn't see that or he refuses to see it.
In either case, fire him.
I actually think Gardner can be a capable pocket passer. We've seen the offense hum--think Notre Dame--and we've seen the players get put in position to succeed. Just look at how Funchess has developed.
It's true that execution is part of the problem. Nebraska is TERRIBLE against the run, running power or stretch plays to attack this should not be dumb ideas. But the OL is all kinds of awful.
Here's the thing: Execution is an issue, but I believe that the Borges plan puts the players into positions where execution is harder than in other systems. Remember, one of the advantages of Chip Kelly's spread system is that the reads are simple and quick. Al's are not.
And his record with quarterbacks is awful. To his credit, Devin has fixed a lot of the interception issues; but now, he looks scared and skittish behind the line, and makes far fewer good plays than he did early this season or even last season. I don't think Devin is coached well, and since his QB coach is also the OC with a lot of other responsibilities, that shouldn't surprise me.
The team is also slow. It takes a lot of time to call and set up for plays. That's a consequence of Al's philosophy. Not that they huddle, or even that they arrive at the line later in the clock; it's that calling or changing plays takes forever. A team that used to run no-huddle tempo all the time is now incapable of moving fast.
A different coach with a different philosophy, even if the formations and plays looked kinda similar, would do better than this.
I mean, c'mon. Minnesota is playing better offense than we are. It might be nice to have Max Williams on our roster, but other than that name one player on their offense that you'd take over ours. You can't.