The Borges offense just matched the scoring of South Florida against MSU, and this was not Borges fault?
The Borges offense just matched the scoring of South Florida against MSU, and this was not Borges fault?
Are you fucking drunk/high, or just plain retarted? You cant play d when you are on the field every 2 minutes. Get a fucking brain.
Classic Hoke on the sideline. Clapping his hands to rah-rah his team when they are getting mudstomped with 2 mins to go, without wearing a headset, while wearing a short sleeve shirt during a cold, rainy day. Effing moron.
Honest question: what would you have your ideal coach do?
Japanese solution when leadership has failed.
Kill oneself with a sword in the gut.
That's what I would have the coaches do. Line up at midfield and symbolicly, with imaginary swords, gut themselves. That would be awesome and we'd then talk about something else that was less stressful than the same old snowflakes we've been bitching about all year BUT KNOW FOR A FACT will not change.
Especially putting on a headset and trumping Borges on a few call.s pulling his offensive lie together and ripping them a new asshole in the locker room.
You were in the locker room? Pictures?
Not looking like a fool. Put on some cold weather/rain gear like every other coach. Is it supposed to make him look tough? The lack of a headset is embarrasing and Michigan has become a laughingstock to most not insulated in your echo-chamber.
Well, if it makes you feel better, I hope he does what you want. I just don't think the HCs appearance to outsiders is very important. The way he coaches technique and scheme and the way he handles players is more important. The way he manages the clock is more important. His tactical approach is more important. His recruiting is more important. His speeches to alumni groups are more important. Almost everything he does is more important than looking the way you want him to look on the sidelines.
O-line isn't an issue? OK.
You might make some sort of argument about trying to mitigate a bad line, but what you said is really, really, tragically silly.
...that the definition of insanity was coming to mgoblog on game day and expecting something different?
Its sad though. I started coming here to read pretty damn good analysis, particularly o. The spread offense and 3-3-5 defense, neither of which I knew much about. It was great. The comments were always way better than most forums as well. What happened man? The blog itself never recovered from losing the Coach Rod argument. Brian hated Hoke before he ever saw him coach a game, and has spent every week since saying, "He's good, but..."
I like talking football, man. I love a good debate. Debates on here made me appreciate the spread a lot more than I previously had. I'm really appreciative of good stuff. There's just not much of it anymore. There are only so many ways to say, "I'm smarter than the coaches."
It wasn't just the RR argument. Go back and read the first article on Hoke, when his name came up the first time around, during the search after Carr's retirement.
Hoke represents the single thing that was most disliked around here about Carr. It went under the name of "cronyism": hiring people he knew and was comfortable working with, like Mike DeBord. Discussion of hiring decisions here tends to focus on objective metrics: wins, yards, points. The idea that you could get useful information out of interviews and references was...suspicious, I guess is a good word. And it was the testimony of countless former players and colleagues, not his objective performance, that was the reason Hoke was considered (well, maybe that's too strong a word but you know what I mean) the first time and hired the second time.
In '08 Michigan football was finally free of all that (remember the Wolverine Liberation Army?) and there was much rejoicing on the blog.
And then it wasn't.
But to assume that cronyism will ever die in coaching is the height of idiocy. Your job is on the line. You want to go to war with guys you don't know?
Also, do you guys know how many assistants Carr went through? Three defensive coordinators, three (DeBord twice, so really 4) offensive coordinators, adding Loeffler as the passing game specialist to go with Malone as the running game guy. He had a ton of different position coaches, often getting the outgoing guys NFL gigs.
Meanwhile, Coach Rod is still with the same crew. He even got Casteel back. That's cronyism. And I'm not even against it in principle, although some decisions are just indefensible.
In the end, this blog just wants change. Change is better because obviously. But we should still have reasonable expectations. I hate both of our losses and some of our wins. But this team is about what I expected, knowing this line would stink.
I'm not one of "those guys"--I'm just describing what was the common thinking on the blog. What they called "cronyism" I called "loyalty". I like it, within limits.
And change is change. Sometimes it's good change, sometimes it's bad change, sometimes it's irrelevant change for the sake of change. I'm in favor of the first kind because change for the better is better because obviously. But blowing things up just so you look like you're doing something is bad management. You figure out what's wrong and you try to fix it; you don't just fire the first guy that happens into your office.
Mostly, I get the impression that the vast majority here, and certainly those on the front page of the blog, haven't ever had any management experience and don't really know what it involves. It's like it's a game of Football Manager, where you're selecting a set of numerical attributes instead of hiring a human being. The idea that the resounding support for Hoke from former players and colleagues was at best irrelevant and at worst a sign of continued cronyism was silly.
I have been positive and patient with the coaches but enough is enough. Michigan is more talented but what a waste of 2 weeks coaching. Fire funk and Borges.
We gave up too many yards and too many easy plays to MSU. Cook had all day to throw. If he was accurate it would have been 50-6.
The oline is terrible, coaching a big reason. Borges couldn't call a play that would work because the players can't execute. THAT IS ALL ON THE COACHES. Hoke can't motivate. He is too passive we need someone who can teach passion and anger to these guys. Dantonio gets MSU to HATE michigan on this saturday every year and we can't respond.
THIS TEAM is SOFT.
One thing for sure. MGoBlog please send me to a press conference. The moment I ask a question that is answered with a smart ass reply I will light in to the coach's ass. You all have just given up or not even asked difficult questions.
You're the best.
Last game of the season I'm going to watch. What a waste of 4 hours every Saturday.
BUT BORGES CALLED A BUBBLE SCREEN
That is what should happen but it won't.
I hope that Hoke is smart enough to evaluate this situation correctly and make the necessary adjustments. That is all that I can say right now because I choose to remain positive.
We're worse than last year. Again. So that's a concern.
Borges and Funk have to go. Have we done anything in three years against a good defense that wasn't purely dependent on our QB making an amazing play?
and to think "if" we beat Nebraska, OSU has a great chance of giving Hoke the first "home" loss....disgusting to think about that....
My son and i each put a score prediction in an envelope an hour before the game. Whoever was closest gets $100 from the other.
His prediction....Michigan 31 MSU 13
Mine.....MSU 28 Michigan 9.
I told him we would not score a TD today and likely will have some really sad offensive numbers when its all done.
As i have said since the UCONN game, this is a very average to below average football team and has no real play-makers on defense and the WORST offensive line i have seen in almost 50 years of watching them.
Hoke has to go. He is not a big time college football head coach.
I said it when he was hired, i say it now.
If anyone thinks its going to get better either this year or next.....you are nuts.
But reading your words makes me so sad and mad. I want Hoke to be our guy so badly!!!
Why? Just win I dont care
Hoke won't be fired this year but it's only a matter of time. The team regresses throughout the season.
Hold on. We definitely didn't regress in 2011 and last year I don't think we did either (although it's hard to tell with the Denard injury).
This year we've had problems, I agree, but I don't know that we need wholesale changes. I do think Funk probably has to go though.
Is don't give up on this coaching staff. Honestly I was more upset initially with our D than the O...the only chance M had of winning was getting to an early lead or at least keeping it close. D had a chance to keep it a tie game at half...failed on the last half drive. And then got manhandled again in the second half.
We expected the O to struggle...maybe not to this degree. But still. They had no chance coming from behind.
I may have to take a break from this site for a week.
D is not the issue.
I hate to be so abrasive...but you watch them give up 29 to fricking. MSU and you think they're not at all to blame? Cumong man.
This site has become mlive.
Which makes sense, since our team has become Michigan State circa the Bobby Williams era.
I disagree with everything you posted
I've had a lot of wine and no dinner. In this moment, I have zero confidence in our coaching staff. Zero. I hope I feel differently tomorrow. I'm not looking forward to going into the office on Monday. Jfc.
Coaching not found.
You said it all, bro.
like bumble bees. Thats a snowflake
our defense really REALLY fell apart. Coaching not great.
our offense, particularly OL was the worst I've ever seen. I can't imagine how FUNK should keep his job. Same for Borges.
It is true that we get the higher rated players than MSU but have not been able to coach them up recently. That really is on coaching development and play calling.
the defense to hold when the offense couldn't make a fucking first down?
The defense was fine, they wore down due to NO offense. They even got a critical TO, and the offense wasted the fuck out of it, going backwards and punting.
Borges and Funk both have to go... The O-line is a trainwreck, and don't use the young excuse. Plenty of other teams do more with less. Devin has regressed - Borges is the QB coach. Borges play calling and schemes are awful. He doesn't play to his team's strength and his ability to prepare a gameplan is obviously flawed.
Hoke...his seat should be red hot right now. Taking care of Funk & Borges is the only way to save face at this point. This team is soft and that's on Hoke. Poor road performances abound and questionable game management at times. This team was not put in a position to win today.
Oh and everyone saying OSU hasn't played anyone, blah blah blah.... They look like world beaters when they should (them against Purdue - us against UConn, Akron, etc...). Urban will roll it up on us.
All good points. But Hoke's seat is positively chilly. You can thank Coach Rodriguez for that, unfortunately.
I think multiple snowflakes threads ARE FUCKING STUPID!
I've kept my mouth shut all year. I have "trusted" in Hoke's decision to keep you around. But man, YOU FUCKING SUCK. Blame Funk while you're at it. You all suck on offense. You are just plain awful. I'm not saying bench Gardner or anyone, I'm saying FIRE BORGES. I will not watch a game til OSU. Season tickets are for sale. Call me an overractor but I have kept my mouth shut until now. We suck and I'm pissed.
ZERO touchdowns against MSU in over 2 years by Borges offense!
not an over-reaction...these abysmal road performances has continued for 3 years now. at this point, the NBA excites me more than college football (shocked to say that myself)
I really blame the BTN. Their first game was Appalachian State and this program hasn't been any good since then.