SIAP: Possible QB Grad Student Transfer
The Iowa Rivals board has started a thread about Jake Rudock transferring and one of the possible destinations is to Michigan. Chris Balas from The Wolverine heard it from the Iowa mod Tom Kakert a couple of days ago. Balas does not believe it will happen, but who knows? Rudock played at St Thomas Aquinas, same as John O'Korn our Houston transfer. So, there is that odd connection as well. Rudock's stats are better than Devin Gardner's.
Jake was 231-345, 61%, 5 picks, 16 TD's, 203 Yds/ppg (12), 2436 Tot yds and an eff rating of 133.5
Devin was 174-283, 61%, 15 picks, 10 TD's, 167 Yds/ppg (12), 1896 Tot yds, and an eff rating of 118.8
From what I saw of Iowa they were pretty conservative. Would Rudock be a good fit under Jim Harbaugh? Would he be an upgrade from what we have coming back?
All speculation at this point, but it is circulating.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:23 PM ^
Aren't we full now?
February 18th, 2015 at 12:25 PM ^
People are assuming some of the walk ons will have scholarships. There's room if they do not have scholarships for the season.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
There is room for 1-2 more.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
It's rather unclear. I believe we are actually at 86 (26+19+26+15) at this moment.
Freshmen
1. Speight
2. Malzone
3. Gentry
4. Higdon
5. Harris
6. Ways
7. B-Cole
8. Perry
9. Bunting
10. Wheatley
11. Bushell-Beatty
12. Newsome
13. Ulizio
14. Runyan Jr.
15. Pallante
16. S-Johnson
17. Marshall
18. R-Jones
19. Winovich
20. Furbush
21. Wangler
22. Watson
23. Washington
24. Peppers
25. Kinnel
26. David
Sophomores
1. O'Korn
2. Isaac
3. Shallman
4. Dukes
5. Canteen
6. Douglas
7. K-Hill
8. Fox
9. Tuley-Tillman
10. M-Cole
11. D-Dawson
12. Samuelson
13. Kugler
14. Hurst Jr.
15. Mone
16. Poggi
17. McCray
18. R-Dawson
19. Sypniewski
Juniors
1. Morris
2. Johnson
3. Green
4. Smith
5. Darboh
6. Chesson
7. D-Jones
8. Butt
9. Magnuson
10. Braden
11. Kalis
12. Bars
13. Godin
14. Wormley
15. Strobel
16. Henry
17. R-Glasgow
18. Charlton
19. Gant
20. Gedeon
21. Lewis
22. Stribling
23. Richardson
24. Clark
25. D-Thomas
26. D-Hill
Seniors
1. Kerridge
2. Houma
3. Norfleet
4. Williams
5. G-Glasgow
6. Miller
7. Pipkins
8. Ojemudia
9. Ross
10. Jenkins-Stone
11. Morgan
12. Bolden
13. Countess
14. Lyons
15. Wilson
But in September Hoke spoke rather confidently about 3 players (implied they were linemen of the offensive variety) meeting the ends of their career, and the public is yet to learn their names. So it is conceivable that we still have 2 spots remaining at the moment to either give a walk-on or a transfer. We'll see.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
That's right I keep forgetting about those 3 linemen... it seems very odd though that we have not yet learned who they are.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^
I don't think anything final has been decided, but there is one guy I would say is 90% out the door and two more who are probably 50/50.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:25 PM ^
So are people going to call out Harbaugh for oversigning/transferring players?
February 18th, 2015 at 1:31 PM ^
As long as he is at 85 in the fall it doesn't matter. There is always attrition during coaching transitions. If he starts to look like Urban Meyer or Nick Saban in a few years maybe they will. However, I don't think this type of thing is even close to SEC or Urban tactics.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
I think that even urban's tactics aren't close to the level of SEC tactics, either. There's plenty of things to criticize urban about, but I think he's generally in the ballpark WRT his numbers for the upcoming season. With a normal level of attrition, he's right where Michigan is if we get the two transfers mentioned.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:41 PM ^
Urban will be at 85 by fall as well, but apparently that excuse doesn't work when it's OSU. Just saying.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^
ask players to leave the program on a regular basis in years 2-5 I will agree with you. Right now, I don't see the comparison. JH has wiggle room with walk-on scholarships, 5th year players, and attrition. Let's wait a year or so.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^
Yeah, but 2 of the players getting "medical hardships" played significant time in the championship game. Not really sure how that happens. It's not just about getting to 85, it's about how the coach makes the math work.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^
I just don't think we can make a comparison with JH yet.
February 18th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
They all say that neither Armani nor the other kid (can't remember his Name, maybe Dodson) played in the Chamionship game. I've seen multiple OSU fans dispute that the two medical redshirts played in the NC game..... So do we have any video or statistical proof that they played?
February 18th, 2015 at 3:16 PM ^
I hate to link to the OSU page, but they should have a hard time arguing with it at least. Reeves had one tackle. The other player's name slips my mind, but I know he was listed in the participation report. I guess I can't say for certain they played "significant" time, but if Reeves really has post concussion syndrome, any time is dangerous.
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2014-2015/cfpnc1…
February 18th, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^
I'm going to assume there are more players with known or highly suspected concussion issues that aren't asked to leave programs. Otherwise I'm down with your post.
February 18th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^
I have no problem with them giving him a medical hardship if the injury is legit. But if his injury is legit, why was he playing in their last game? And yes, it's much better to ask a kid to leave the game than to let/force him to endanger himself.
February 18th, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^
That list included 3 walkons and a transfer that's not official yet, only rumored. If you're comparing apples to apples, we're at 82 now. OSU is/was way over 85. You're right that they'll get to 85 by fall because they absolutely have to. It's a rule you simply can't break.
How they will get there is unknown to us. Maybe it's already known to them and will be completely legitimate. Maybe.
We're only looking for attrition to clear room for walkons. That's how walkons get their scholarships every single year. If we were in the 90s, you'd have a point. But we've never been anywhere close to OSU's situation under any coach.
February 18th, 2015 at 5:23 PM ^
Ohio State has 93 scholarships committed right now, from my count. Big difference.
| 1. | Joshua Alabi | FR |
| 2. | Aramis Alexander | |
| 3. | Damon Arnette | |
| 4. | Jerome Baker | |
| 5. | Rashod Berry | |
| 6. | Branden Bowen | |
| 7. | Matthew Burrell Jr. | |
| 8. | Joe Burrow | |
| 9. | Nick Conner | |
| 10. | Jashon Cornell | |
| 11. | Jamel Dean | |
| 12. | Kevin Feder | |
| 13. | Torrance Gibson | |
| 14. | Eric Glover-Williams | |
| 15. | DaVon Hamilton | |
| 16. | K.J. Hill | |
| 17. | Justin Hilliard | |
| 18. | Dre'Mont Jones | |
| 19. | Mirko Jurkovic Jr. | |
| 20. | Robert Landers | |
| 21. | Liam McCullough | |
| 22. | Josh Norwood | |
| 23. | Isaiah Prince | |
| 24. | Grant Schmidt | |
| 25. | Alex Stump | |
| 26. | Denzel Ward | |
| 27. | Mike Weber | |
| 28. | Dante Booker | SO/FR |
| 29. | Noah Brown | |
| 30. | Parris Campbell | |
| 31. | Stephen Collier | |
| 32. | Johnnie Dixon | |
| 33. | Jalyn Holmes | |
| 34. | Malik Hooker | |
| 35. | Sam Hubbard | |
| 36. | Jamarco Jones | |
| 37. | Marcelys Jones | |
| 38. | Demetrius Knox | |
| 39. | Marshon Lattimore | |
| 40. | Terry McLaurin | |
| 41. | Raekwon McMillan | |
| 42. | Sean Nuernberger | |
| 43. | Curtis Samuel | |
| 44. | Darius Slade | |
| 45. | Erick Smith | |
| 46. | Brady Taylor | |
| 47. | Dylan Thompson | |
| 48. | Kyle Trout | |
| 49. | Damon Webb | |
| 50. | Eli Apple | |
| 51. | J.T. Barrett | |
| 52. | Marcus Baugh | |
| 53. | James Clark | |
| 54. | Gareon Conley | |
| 55. | Michael Hill | |
| 56. | Darron Lee | |
| 57. | Tyquan Lewis | |
| 58. | Evan Lisle | |
| 59. | Jalin Marshall | |
| 60. | Donovan Munger | |
| 61. | Billy Price | |
| 62. | Tracy Sprinkle | |
| 63. | Christopher Worley | |
| 64. | Vonn Bell | JR |
| 65. | Joey Bosa | |
| 66. | Cameron Burrows | |
| 67. | Ezekiel Elliott | |
| 68. | Trey Johnson | |
| 69. | Dontre Wilson | |
| 70. | Warren Ball | |
| 71. | Kyle Dodson | |
| 72. | Bri'onte Dunn | |
| 73. | Pat Elflein | |
| 74. | Cardale Jones | |
| 75. | Tyvis Powell | |
| 76. | Michael Thomas | |
| 77. | Kyle Berger | SR |
| 78. | Corey Smith | |
| 79. | De'van Bogard | |
| 80. | Jacoby Boren | |
| 81. | Taylor Decker | |
| 82. | Josh Perry | |
| 83. | Armani Reeves | |
| 84. | Tommy Schutt | |
| 85. | Adolphus Washington | |
| 86. | Camren Williams | |
| 87. | Chris Carter | |
| 88. | Chase Farris | |
| 89. | Bryce Haynes | |
| 90. | Ron Tanner | |
| 91. | Antonio Underwood | |
| 92. | Nick Vannett | |
| 93. | Braxton Miller | |
February 19th, 2015 at 2:33 AM ^
You can probably scratch off that Braxton Miller guy.
February 19th, 2015 at 9:07 AM ^
In his three years at Ohio State, 40 players with remaining eligibility have left the program.
February 18th, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^
Going after Urban for over-signing is a non-starter. He is shady about other things, but not over-signing. I recall Brian saying we should have played Florida instead of Alabama in Jerry world because it was more fair as Florida did not have a history of over signing.
February 18th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^
Or were they were fine with it, but Meyer was opposed?
One of the (speculative) reasons given for Meyer leaving Florida was that he was didn't like being at a disadvantage with those SEC teams that oversigned. Coming to OSU, he wouldn't have to worry about the administration holding him back in comparison to Big Ten rivals. Quite the opposite, in fact.
February 18th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^
See my comment above.
February 18th, 2015 at 7:35 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 2:19 PM ^
Isn't O'Korn a junior?
February 18th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
That means two players would have to leave by fall practice. Honestly, I would be shocked if two didn't, just through natural attrition.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^
I've got the feeling, like many on here, that intensity levels are going to go up by several orders of magnitude once spring practice starts, which in all likelihood, will cause some additional attrition.
February 18th, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
OMG OVERSIGNING !!!!111!!!!!!
February 18th, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^
I don't think what you're doing is wrong. I think it's funny that when OSU sits at 88 they get killed and if Michigan gets to 87 (which this thread seems in favor of) it's all ok. "Gotta plan for attrition!" Excuses are excuses. If you add this kid you're gambling (hoping?) on two people leaving. That's just a fact. Can't we just call a spade a spade?!
Look, you're managing your roster in a smart way. Planning for attrition is not a crime.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^
The difference is you are at 88 NOW. We could end up over 85 this summer or some players could leave before these grad transfers even happen. Not really the same thing at all.
February 18th, 2015 at 2:04 PM ^
What? The only thing that matters is the number of scholarships that are assigned to a player for next years class. If we have more, than the OSU fan is right. If not, he wrong. Pretty clear cut to me.
February 18th, 2015 at 2:13 PM ^
I guess we are saying the same thing. We are not currently over 85. Chances are, several players leave before we get any grad trasfers, so we should never be over 85. Whether you want to call what OSU does "oversigning" or not, they have more than 85 scholarships committed right now. We do not. That is my point.
February 18th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^
if the walk-ons aren't receiving any schollys, which most here agree that they do deserve. But we'll see what flushes out between now and the official start of the season.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^
February 18th, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^
but although you do have a point, especially since osu just won a National Championship, the reasons players leave one program or another vary greatly. Regardless of the ring, a kid may have not gotten the playing time, nor expecting to in the near future, due to depth chart issues or a very talented incoming freshman, etc. Not to mention, there usually tends to be family issues, or the odd "got in trouble with the law" issues...something that I'm sure urban is familiar with.
So, I can totally see his point, there's other things going on with them vs Michigan, but the how isn't as important as the bottom line to us, and that (if we want to be totally fair) isn't quite sitting right with me either.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
Those numbers include three walk-ons who deserve scholarships.
February 18th, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^
Ace wrote a post to explicitly says OSU isn't oversigning. Brian wrote in another post that OSU isn't oversigning. I mentioned in two posts and on several Michigan and Ohio State boards that Ohio State isn't oversigning.
Under exactly what definition of "get killed" do you include all of the site's full-timers going out of our way to exonerate Ohio State and tell our readership to bark up some other tree?
I like it when we get opposing perspectives on here, but you keep turning up in these threads in full battle armor, looking to fight anyone who shows up on a battlefield that was not only immediately conceded, but which Michigan fans are helping you defend.
Obviously there are going to be Wolverines who expect the worst when it's Ohio State, because Michigan-Ohio State. I bet it would take me less than 35 seconds to find a Buckeye fan on your site or 11W who equates what Urban did to Weber with signing O'Korn. But if the guys who run the site already said that's stupid why would it help for me to go on and tell them so?
February 18th, 2015 at 7:06 PM ^
SUCK IT OSU FAN THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT! YOU JUST GOT TOLD!
GET ON THE BUS...SETH IS TAKING YOU TO SCHOOL!
...in all seriousness, STFU, don't use a couple posters to generalize for the entire fanbase and come to a MICHIGAN board to bitch about it.
If Michigan fans want to complain about OSU fans on Bucknuts or whatever your site is called...ROAST THEM. But don't come over here talking that nonsense - especially when mods have all had front page posts agreeing with the thing you're complaining about. I can also find multiple posters like myself who agree with your opinion (and Seth's...and Brian's...and Ace's) that OSU isn't/wasn't oversigning...for every person on MGoBlog you can find bitching about something their rival has done. How do you think it would go if I went over to your board, took the most idiotic posts and/or opinions on your board and then complained about it...on your board?
February 18th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^
Ok, you're right and I agree with you! I remember commenting on Ace's post with compliments.
In this case, I made a clear joke about oversigning (complete with 1s instead of !s) and got replied to over it. So I replied to the replies.
My points on oversigning were supposed to die two weeks ago on NSD. This was not an attempt to start the same oversigning debate I already had on this board. It was an attempt to make a sarcastic joke. Because sarcasm is fun.
For the record, I don't like the 11W comment section. I barely participate in it. It's a tire fire. I enjoy the articles.
February 18th, 2015 at 3:17 PM ^
I do enjoy internet porn.