spoiler alert: i linked this
SI article about OSU expected Tues at noon
Can't wait. *Bart Scott Voice.
Back in the wild west, gun fights were always at high noon.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed plugging that into my calendar (with a time!). Highly recommended.
It's like a four day weekend!
Did you even go to U of M ? Well, if you did, surely you wouldn't be gloating about this... because OSU is the yang to our yin.... the greatest rivalry in sports requires a strong equal. Off the record, I want OSU to beat every team, and then lose to us, year after year after year.
However, most of the crowd here seems to be either the lowest rung of the alumni, or Wal-Mart wolverines, who went to to the likes of Western or a community college.
And you are?
Not a real fan now please take your ball and go home.
Yeah, and a rivalry where one side cheats at will and creates an uneven playing field is really great.
Time to dismount that high horse and get over yourself.
This from a UM alum and varsity letterman.
Did you ever get that feeling?
And for the record, I am not pompous enough to try to define Michigan Fandom for everyone else. That kind of hubris would make me look like an unbridled jackass. But if I DID, I would imagine that attempting to define others as "the lowest rung of the alumni, or Wal-Mart wolverines," would be one of the surest signs that we don't want you.
You're making the rest of us look bad. Stop it.
Blue in South Bend
LS&A, Class of '05
(Engin '90) I heartily throw my full support behind your position.
By the way, that LS&A degree must have taught you a thing or two about composition, because you're a fine writer.
Us folks with that there LSA degree can write real good!
Us folks with that there LSA degree can
writeright real good!
There. All better. Didn't want you to miss a meme.
*right real good.
EDIT: Damn, Engineering school made you pretty quick on the draw. Well played.
And us LSA grads who are too old to remember what day it is agree with you too.
Bill in Birmingham
LSA (Economics) 1981
Sorry that I went into aviation and Western had one of the best aviation programs in the country. I should stop being a "Wal-mart Wolverine" right away...
I have two degrees from the University of Michigan.
I will derive a good deal of satisfaction if this thoroughly corrupt version of the Ohio State football program get what it deserves from the NCAA.
I believe that a strong and clean OSU football program is absolutely in the University of Michigan's best football interests, because our rivalry has been defined by titanic struggles between two top-echelon teams year after year.
None of these are mutually exclusive, a point that you appear to have missed.
Welcome to the Lowest Rung of the Alumni Association. We're having T-shirts made. That is, if a certain poster allows us to wear maize and blue.
I'd buy it and wear it proudly.
one of the things about Michigan is that, unlike Ohio State, we have lots of rivals. MIchigan State and Notre Dame are also big rivals, not to mention the others, so we don't just focus on Ohio State. The Ohio State rivalry has become more of an issue for us recently because our record against Ohio State has been bad (to put it mildly). Since (including) 2003, we've been 1- 7 vs. OSU, 3-5 vs. MSU, and 5-3 vs. ND. (Looking up those numbers was depressing).
When I was at Michigan (1993-1996), we dominated Ohio State (3-1 over those years). The '93 game was amazing. The score was 28-0 and it wasn't even as close as the score indicated. I can't find a box score, but we ran for a million yards on Ohio State, it was sick. That Ohio State team was really good, too.
Oh, I miss the Cooper years.
Isn't right is it? We won seven in a row and they've won the last three (still depressing I know) so shouldn't it be 5-3?
2010: L, 34-17
2009: L, 26-20
2008: L. 35-21
2007: W, 28-24
2006: W, 31-13
2005: W, 34-31
2004: W, 45-37
2003: W, 27-20
Seriously? This is the kind of arrogance that I was afraid of when I decided to go to Michigan. If these so called "Walmart Wolverines" have stuck with us through the past 4 years, I think they deserve to be called Michigan fans.
Walmart Wolverines and lower tier alumni....psh fuck you
You managed to sound like an annoying MSU fan and what they criticize all at once. Nicely done.
You jackass...in Canada we have to order the gear in...it's not even as easy as going to WalMart USA.
Tjhe likes of Western or Community College you say? You apologize right now, idiot, people with degrees from the University of Western Ontario don't deserve your insults.
Get off it.
Did you mean to say, "For the record..."? I'm not sure why your view on tsio's winning pattern would need to go, "Off the record..."
don't tell people you're a Michigan Alum. You make the rest of us tolerant, unprejudiced, well grounded fans without poles up our asses look bad.
What do Fielding Yost, Fritz Crisler, Bo Schembechler, Gary Moeller, Lloyd Carr and Brady Hoke have in common with every "Wal-Mart Wolverine"? None of them have a Michigan degree. I welcome each and every person who wishes to root for my alma mater no matter what their association with the University is. Non-alumni fans are a blessing and an asset to the program.
is very well said and the exact reason why we need unlimited upvotes.
Why we wouldn't welcome rather than look down upon non-alums who love the Maize and Blue is beyond me.
I'm sure there are tons of people who cheer for top-tier schools in SEC country and elsewhere who never get asked if they actually went to the school they cheer for.
Wow...I didn't know u had to go to the school to be a fan. Really? Well then a lot of bleed blue fans who didn't go to the Univ. will now be disowned. Way to go my man.
those morons in EL or CBus use the term Walmart Wolverine... Where the hell do you get off talking down to anyone because they may or may not have gone to university they root for? Stop being an arrogant pretentious ass.
And I'm so tired of people looking down people who attend/attended Junior College, what's so plebian about getting your Gen-Eds out of the way for half the price? I'd argue some Junior Colleges are better than some 4-year schools. Not that it matters, when you graduate from said 4-year school your degree doesn't say "BTW, attended Junior College for the first two years".
well now you've got it all figured out don't you?
but I will bet you I have as much, probably more, passion for Michigan athletics than you or anyone who has gone to the school. I've been watching Michigan since I was 8 years old. I'm that means I'm at 16 years watching now, compared to a lot of students who probably become fans when they attend Michigan.
Wal-Mart Wolverine? Oh, good fucking one. I bought my #16 jersey at the MDen, AT MICHIGAN STADIUM, after the Big Chill, which I purchased tickets to.
The lowest rung of Michigan fans is people like you, who like Michigan but act like Spartans.
Get the fuck off my (well Brian's) blog if you got a problem with me or anyone else here.
and as far as I'm concerned if you love the Maize and Blue and hate the scarlet and gray, as well as the green and white, you're in the family.
Seriously, with so many people out there who hate us, why wouldn't we be grateful for anyone who loves Michigan and cheers when they win?
1 - Michigania sounds like an idiot
2 - If a non-alumni UofM fan is considered a "Wal Mart Wolverine" to Sparty (and apparently some other idiots) then what would a non-alumni Sparty fan be called? I assume there are a couple non alumni Sparty's that exist. "Wal Mart Spartan"? This is a serious question.
a Wal-Mart Wolverine, I usually say "shut up you Save-A-Lot Sparty"
They already have their own chain!
And the type of arrogant Michigan fan I really despise more than a Wal-Mart Wolverine. You act like you're more of a fan than the next guy. Well, take a look at your Mgopoints- I'm at least 3x more of a fan than what you are. I may not be a UM grad ( I currently attend Cal Berkeley), but at least I don't have shit attitude like you. Enjoy your weekend turd!
That was just dumb.
As a student at Michigan right now, could you please shut up. You're making us look bad. A Michigan fan is a Michigan fan whether or not they went to school in Ann Arbor.
Michigania, fuck you. I didn't go to U of M, I went to Western. But both my parents went to U of M and raised me as a Wolverine and taught me to keep Saturdays in the fall reserved for the Winged helmet. I was born in Ann Arbor, was raised in Ann Arbor and lived 20 years of my life in Ann Arbor. As a kid, I was a ball boy for the U of M women's basketball team for 3 years and the Men's team for 1 year. I worked for the University of Michgan Rec Department for 3 years. I've turned down job offers because one of the requirements was working on Saturdays and I've missed weddings because it was during a game.
So what in the world makes you think you understand more about Michigan tradition than me? Why does your 4 years of going to U of M trump my entire life of being a Michigan fan? You better fix you backwards MSU-like thought process that only alumni can be true fans, because its as far from the truth as possible...jackass.
"Walmart Wolverines" > Colossal douchebag alums...
If that makes him a Walmart Wolverine, I for one would rather have one of him rooting for my team than a hundred flaming douche alums like you. Get off my blog.
You've managed to unite the MGoBlog community like I've never seen before.
I know that this is the real reason you've sacrificed your reputation and I applaud your noble actions.
Tressell...he's a dead man
Now, who's with me for watching this all go down.
I think we already knew that Gee is dead. I mean look at him.
I think the question is whether Tressel will have the time to fire Gee before Tressel is fired.
Can we get a clockdown clock in here???
I'm with you. The one I hate the most out of all those clowns is Gordon Gee. Just seeing these ignorant rats get nailed is all I ask for. !
The news about the news is that there is no new news in which case the news isn't new so the news we knew about the news we want to peruse is true.
All of that made my ears tired.
You read aloud to yourself.
All the news is good ga-news with Gary Gnus.
This has to be the most highly-anticipated piece they have ever done. Nothing like a little Christmas in May...
Live blog, anyone?
Will there be live coverage of Tressel on his march to the gallows of his career?
Are you suggesting an OSU snuff film?
....and it could be on general release to all Big Ten schools for their amusement and to the SEC as a cautionary tale.
Consider this my formal agreement to go into business with you.
Now we just need to collect footage and get interviews and hire actors for re-enactments and the like....the result should make the directors of the sweeping epics throughout history proud.
A perp walk for Tressel? Count me in.
to fire Tressel.... And the other part of the school might even be more corrupt in their playground of friends and family.
THE CROWD GOES WILD!
(Symphonie Fantastique by Berlioz, Mvt. 4, "March to the Scaffold")
It actually kicks ass. Fantastic to play, too.
The worst thing to me is that with the alleged cheating that has been going on at tsio I feel like "The Rivalry" has been tainted. It needs to be cleaned up so that "The Game" feels real again.
I agree that the UM needs a strong rival in tsio. Hopefully the cornhuskers will fill that role during the time tsio spends in Bolivia.
"The Game" and the rivalry will feel real again once OSU has to pay for their corruption. That is the first step to getting everything back on track from a moral standpoint. Michigan also needs to start looking like Michigan again.
In the meantime, some major humiliation and pain is what America's worst fan base needs after a decade of pounding their chests while cheating their way to wins and championships.
..... for a liveblog. After all the crap we've been through, it will be nice to have popcorn with comrades and watch the destruction of Mordor. Well worth getting fired for.
I'm feeling like this may be a little too much hype for one article. Although there can never be enough hype about the Bucks destroying themselves, how do we know this isn't just some retread of all of the other articles we've been reading lately?
How do we know you ask?
Because SI sent in George Dohrman to do the piece. George is the journalistic equal to Luca Brasi and you don't send your best killer in and have him stay over 6 weeks unless you have a very important job to do.
I like the sound of that.
but not the illustration, as Luca ends up "sleeping with the fishes" after attempting to go undercover for Don Vito!
but this particular SI writer is well known for his investigative pieces... so I'm going to believe (hope) that this, too, will be hard-hitting and insightful, with the end-result being further pain and discomfort for tOSU
This article can't possibly live up to all the hype it's getting, except for one possibility. Dohrmann won the Pulitzer for breaking a basketball scandal story. He also recently wrote a book about all the shenanigans involved with AAU basketball. It's possible that the piece he is now doing on OSU is about basketball not football, or at least somehow implicates basketball in the current scandal. That would be huge. It would be the missing element needed to make the situation worse than USC and force the NCAA to hit OSU with loss of institutional control. It also would be the end of Smith and probably even Gee.
On Dohrmann's blog, he does cite some apparent violations of NCAA rules by Thad Matta, the BB team coach.
A vote AGAINST a liveblog. Sure, it's fun in a schadenfreude sort of way, but let's not stoop to that level. It's intriguing and exciting that our rival is getting hit with all of these allegations, but it shouldn't be treated like a party. That'd be the equivalent of those drunk Americans who partied in the streets when Osama was killed.
You DON'T want to be this girl:
But a liveblog doesn't have to be a celebratory thing. IIRC, we liveblogged parts of the Jihad (specifically the MSC/RR Presser). A liveblog is more about the quick dissemination of information in one place for an event that is going to generate a lot of interest.
It would be up to the LiveBlog Mods to minimize the OMG WE WON O$U $UCK$ USA USA talk...
What? You don't like a good USA chant?
What do you think I am, a Moran?
I'm having a party at my house Tuesday. Festivities start around 11:30. Come early if you want a good seat. BYOP.
Yep. You should never celebrate the death of a mass murderer.
It's not like we saw the Arabs celebrating in the streets on September 11th..
Exactly my point. Do you want to stoop to that level?
To be fair, one group celebrated the death of innocent civilians while the other celebrated the death of a mass murderer. I don't think that's the same level.
Tressel: Where am I?
NCAA: In the Hearing.
Tressel: What do you want?
NCAA: We want information.
Tressel: Whose side are you on?
NCAA: That would be telling. We want information...
Patrick McGoohan ftw.
Brooks is getting his info from one of the sports radio hosts in Columbus 97.1 if you follow his twitter below you can see that he told Brooks he would bet him 10k that this story is indeed coming out in the near future and he has inside info that it is currently being fact checked and approved by the SI legal team. So from this, if true, I think its safe to assume this article will be the kill shot on the OSU program.
"Tell brooks I'll bet him 10k for charity that an si article was written and handed in He wrote si had zero plans to write 1. 4 st judes kids"
Can't wait to read it. I'm thinking of having the magazine copy framed....whenever it comes out.
I live in Cleveland and have taken crap from my staff almost non-stop for the past 7 years. I used to get the "Michigan hasn't beaten The Ohio State University in football in the last X days"emails at least once a week. My office has been festooned in Buckeye shit every November for as long as I can remember and I have to listen to that stupid fight song and hang on sloopy when I call cellphones.
And now everyone is very quiet and they say very little. They all have the face of a person who got a call from the Dr saying "we have your test results in but we don't feel comfortable telling you on the phone what they are and what your options might be. Can you come in right away so we can discuss?"
I LOVE it.
I also live and work in Cleveland and have had much of the same experiences. I have enjoyed the silence from my partners, who at this time of the year would usually be showing up in my office to discuss OSU's latest 5-star recruits and shaking their heads at Michigan's 3-stars. It is almost like the 90s again (but not quite yet).
I love it too. Go Blue!
Are there any Michigan friendly viewing establishments in the area? Every bar I've gone to has been rather hostile when I walk in with Michigan gear on.
You should check out the Fox and Hound in Mayfield (SOM Center Rd, just north of Mayfield Road). The local UM Alumni Group frequently meets there for games -- all football games for sure, and some basketball and hockey. If you are a member of the Alumni Association, you should be on the local group's list. If you get them their email address, you will get notices.
Next fall, just show up in the back room of the Fox and Hound and introduce yourself. A group will be there.
Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, I'm not an alumnus, graduated from Toledo.
I'll definitely make it out there for a few games. I'm in the strongsville area, so it shouldn't be too bad of a drive.
You should be able to join the local group even if not an alumni, fyi.
I'll wear my M gear with extra gusto the next time I'm on osu's campus in your honor.
Where I work in ohio I’ve been hassled about Michigan since the day tressel was hired. About that time a new plant manager was hired and they have given me hell since then. Some things I’ve endured: Was threatened with firing when the Fri before a Michigan osu game when I was serenaded by a group buckeye co-workers dressed in buckeye grab, I sang my Michigan songs as they sang theirs, and when one buckeye co-worker displayed his shirt that read “Choke – The official drink of Michigan Football”, I displayed a photo I had found of brutus on a Michigan truck with his eyes + out. The buckeye group and myself had a good laugh over the shirt and brutus photo, the plant manager came by and told me either the photo was gone or I was! When I asked about the "Choke – The official drink of Michigan Football" shirt, the look I got told me all I needed to know. I’ve seen Ann Arbor is a Whore and Michigan Sucks, shirts, posters, etc. I’ve been told when asked if I was going to Michigan that weekend and I said Yes, “Are you going to see the Whore? Being a bit caught off guard I’ve asked ”What?” and they replied “Ann Arbor”. I’ve wanted to say, “Does your mother live in Ann Arbor?”, but I haven’t because I need that damn job. Once I needed to get a product to a customer that had requested a Rush Delivery. I needed to enter the QC log after I tested the product so I could send it to the shipping department, which ceased shipping at 5PM. For some reason my user name and password wouldn’t work, I tried several times and then shut the system down and turned it back on, still no luck. With time running out I called IS and told them I needed help. The IS manger told me he couldn’t help me (I thought something was very strange the way he was talking, he sounded kind of embarrassed). He said the Plant Manager had changed my password to “bucksrule#1.” I missed the shipping time and the Rush Delivery was not shipped until the next day, I WAS PISSED!!!!! When I told my immediate supervisor the next day the reason the Rush Delivery was not shipped he said he’d let the plant manager tell the customer why he didn’t get his product, ”Ass Hole” he said, as he is a Nebraska fan and hates osu as much as I do.
osu deserves all the crap the media is giving them, plus any penalties the NCAA can level against them, and their fans that support this unconscionable, unethical, unprincipled, unscrupulous; deceitful, deceiving, deluding, delusive, delusory, false, slick, defrauding, devious, furtive, slippery, sneaking, sneaky, trickish, tricky; insidious, perfidious, treacherous, crooked, deceptive, double-dealing, duplicitous, fraudulent, guileful, rogue, shady, shifty, underhand, underhanded (I think that about covers it) behavior deserve the same.
I worked for 6 months in a pizza shop where all the other employees and workers were major Bucknuts. One of my bosses hated me from Day 1 and gave me hell the whole time I was there. My fellow workers posted one of those index cards with the season schedule written on it over my food prep table in August so I got to study osu's schedule all through the football season as I made pizza. On the day osu lost to Wisconsin I wrote "NOOOOO!!!!!!!" next to that game on the schedule. Mmmm...tears.
My daughter and I have worked out a code so I can send a message to her on Tuesday through the school:
The story didn't come out: Take the bus home
Story is no big deal (1-2): Don't take the carpool home
The story is embarrassing but not a killer (3-5): Don't stay after school
It's really bad and a major problem (6-8) I'll be home early to meet you.
OMG, I wonder if they get the death penalty (9-10): Won't be home; the key is in the regular place.
Any refinements needed?
The school has a strict policy of no phones on during school. Her first idea was to ask the school to make an announcement over the intercom, so there you go.
I would suggest skywriting...
You and your daughter sound awesome!
I bet Lane Kiffin is probably the happiest with tosu's ordeal. Less angry mobs outside of USC campus.
Ann Arbor: 82F Slight Breeze, Sun Smiling, M Shaped Cumulonimbus
Columbus: 1000F Molten Lava, Screaming Thunderstorm with Horn Headed Trident Carrying Clouds.
I'm surprised none of the major Networks hasn't started a reality TV show that follows around the NCAA compliance divisions. I'd be willing to bet the dirt from many of these programs in question would make for big ratings. They could even name it "Student Athletes Gone Wild" or "CSI: Indianapolis".
that's about when I'm going to wake up on Tuesday, my birthday. Happy birthday, MichFan1997. From Ohio State!
How does one upload a picture without a URL? I could use assistance. I edited the "OHIO" countdown clock and would like to post it. Any help would be appreciated.
You can create a Flickr account or something similar without too much effort. You can also upload to facebook and copy the URL from that.
I've tried repeatedly to upload an image using the URL from my image-hosting site, and all I ever get is a broken image icon. Frustrating as hell....don't know what I'm doing wrong.
what's wrong with walmart? Times is hard I'm not trying to pay retail prices.
Is it Tuesday Yet??/