I think team 132 earned the right to have their choice this year. I think they look sweet myself. I'd be for them coming back.
Should the helmet numbers stay?
I think no. That is a team 132 thang!
I'm fine with them as long as it's the only change that's made to the uniform.
I hate making a slippery slope argument, but it seems like change breeds change. I agree completely with you, and I would be okay with the single change, but there's too much being stirred around already to feel comfortable. This includes having something around 5 jerseys over this past season, having the #21 patch (not saying it's bad, just something different and publicized), and the numbers staying for more than the UTL game. Maybe it's Brandon, maybe not, but there's a line to be drawn between giving deserving players a choice of their preferences and allowing them to change everything. I'm not being a codger or anything, I just get uneasy about that stuff I guess.
..in my opinion, they need to go. Don't mess with the iconic helmet.
You really can't make something more perfect than it already is. Now I'm all for tinkering with the away uniforms because I think they need some work. But leave the rest alone. It's already the most recognized and appreciated unifom in all of sports.
I will just piggy back on your post it is exactly how I feel.
Because UM has had them in the past... but I'd prefer perfection (our regular helmets) undisturbed.
Also, I don't agree with this: It's encouraging that coach Hoke is open to what the players like so they could be here to stay.
You don't build tradition on being overly open to what the players like, uniform-wise. You become Maryland that way.
Or Oregon, which no one wants that
With all the stupid ideas we had this year with regards to uniform changes (I still don't understand the MSU legacy uniforms and those damn white pants), this would be one addition I'd be okay with retaining.
It actually looks pretty cool and has somewhat more of an old school feel to it.
I would prefer that they go away. I don't care that much either way, but I like the helmets better without them.
for a player to find his helmet around the bench and locker room.
I really hate the helmet number. I mean, REALLY hate it. I understand for the ND game it was a gimmick, but it needs to disappear, now.
Not a fan. Our helmets don't need any clutter.
Plus, after hits, the stickers tended to peel off and look untidy. No bueno.
please god no. We're not Alabama.
But I miss the plain winged helmet.
I personally think it takes away from the winged helmet brand. I feel this image below speaks for itself. Adding anything else could be tacky and unnecessary.
But if Coach Hoke and THE TEAM want numbers, then I am all for it.
I think 1. We could use the numbers as an alternate for some games (the home uniforms themselves will/should never be changed), 2. I think it could be cool to keep the clean helmet for home games and the numbered helmet for away games.
No matter what, no helmet stickers. You don'y put stickers on an epic-looking Ferrari, why put them on our epic helmets?
If they agree to go to a BCS bowl...then sure
If the numbers stay, i think the facemasks gotta go gray. I'd prefer if the home jersey stayed the same, we did a little bit better with a road jersey, and ONE home game per year with a legacy jersey (ND, lil' bro, or tSIO)
I don't really dislike them but I would rather they stick with no number. The maize wings alone on the blue is just way too classic.
Coach Hoke will probably have us ready to play without helemts by next year anyways, making the apperance irrelevant...MAN BALL!!!!
fun for one year. time to put them back on shelf
Just think. This might be the last sight a poor hooker saw.
They ruin the clean and classic look.
god helmet stickers were ugly as all get out, but still have more tradition to them then these numbers. I like the numbers, but don't want to see them in every game
No numbers, no helmet stickers. Please just give us that smooth clean look. The only time numbers/gray facemasks are cool is when they wear the legacy gear.
I dont care for the numbers on the helmet and definitely a big no on helmet stickers. Keep 'em clean.
but I agree with your sarcastic remark. Not the sarcasm. Those Oregon helmets were the coolest thing I have ever seen on a football field. The michigan version of that same idea would immediatly get all 5 star recruits to sign for us forever. Somebody with mad graphics skillz should hook up a mock version for us to peruse.
FUCK NO! Get rid of them ASAP!
I'm fine either way. I like the numbers, but I also like the clean helmet. If this turned out to be Hoke's change to the uniforms, then it sure as hell beats piping and helmet stickers.
Michigan has the most iconic uniforms in college football without the helmet numbers. It was cool for a season, but I'd like to see them go, along with those damn alternate uniforms.
I would like to see the helmet stickers return, though.
Love 'em, always thought they should have been brought back, and I think with the success we had this year, they deserve to stay.
Like a lot of folks, I'm fine either way. Just want us to decide one way or the other (Are we a helmet number team or not?) and then stick with it.
I'm a traditionalist about the uniforms, but I am okay with the numbers on the helmet. They are functional for one thing -- easier to figure out who is who on some plays. There were also actually used in the past and therefore a real throwback, not some fake throwback.
I don't think they detract from the classic helmets. I could go either way.
Since I am a child of the Bo era, I am also in favor of the helmet stickers, but I realize I am in a minority on that here.
but I also prescribe to the slippery slope theory so I'm torn
I'd rather not have the numbers. And no helmet stickers. When you have the best helmets in college football, as we do, you don't need any clutter. Let them be clean of anything but the wing.
Speaking of the wing, I'd rather have the 80's/90's wing. Not the thinner one we have had the last few years.
I don't really care, but if they keep them can they find a way to keep them stuck to the helmet?
The helmets were perfect the way they were. The numbers make them look cluttered.
They were perfect, leave them alone.
Prefer that they not bring the numbers back next year. But not going to abandon the team over it.
Don't like them. Just being honest. I don't really care if they keep them, because I'd rather see helmet stickers than anymore of the bumblebee bullshit we wore for MSU. Leave the damn uniform alone!
I don't really care that much, and if the team / Hoke like them, I am fine.
My personal preference is that the helmets look better without them, but that is just my opinion.
I don't like the numbers on the helmet.
if they stay or not. I'm guessing they are going to keep them.
I think the numbers make the helmet look ugly and cluttered. But if you're gonna put numbers on the helmets, then don't place numbers on the shoulders.
I feel like I'm in the minority but they didn't take away from anything and the players like them. I know this Michigan where nothing can ever change but sometimes it's not bad to tweak things. We will never be maryland or Oregon so chill people. Numbers on helmets> looking like the state flag threw up on your jerseys. It could be worse.
They belong to Team 132. The helmet numbers of this season will be a tribute to their legacy. Every time you watch a video or look at a photograph from this season you'll see those numbers and remember how special this team and its seniors were. I think that will be a great memory that distinguishes the trials of 132's seniors.
That's not to say that Team 133 is less deserving of any accolade or commemoration, but the helmet numbers belong to 132.
I like them, but don't notice them during the game. If the players like them i say keep them, if they don't want them keep them off.
I have to admit that there have been times when having the numbers on the helmets helped me more immediately identify players. Having said that, I hate how cluttered they look and how they detract from the timeless, classic look. We have helmets that are so classic that countless schools try to emulate them. If there were a branding advantage, I still wouldn't like them but would at least understand the motivation. In any case, give me classic!
That is all.
Get off my lawn.
I don't like them and I sure as hell don't wanna hear about stealing them while at jerry's.
FWIW, which is nothing, I vote no.
No to numbers, yes to helmet stickers. Nothing looks cooler from a distance than a Michigan winged helmet loaded up with stickers.
My feelings as well. But even if no stickers are in the future, I'd still prefer no numbers.
Except for a Michigan helmet without any stickers.
They like the numbers and actually play on the team. You grey hairs do not. Shut the f up and let the team decide. I say it should be up to the seniors, and not the tradition whores around here. We need kids that want to win, are cocky, and not worry about just tradition. I have a tradition and it is the banner touch, other than that; balls to the wall bitches!
Someone got a hold of some and are selling them on ebay.
Or they just made them themselves. Its not really too hard to take a picture of the numbers to a graphic design shop and ask them to make a set to match.
I'm in favor of forward facing Wolverine helmet awards.
I like them, and they're helpful for quick player IDs on TV. If it was a choice I would take the numbers over the award stickers.
No numbers, please.
that beautiful helmet? If you can read the number on a jersey, why would it be necessary?
them to get rid of them, but if the players want to, sure. It was kind of a special team 132 thing as said before.
Yes, Keep them. I think the numbers on the helmet look awesome. The players love them.
Not only do I like the Numerals, I like the Sugar Bowl helmets with gray facemasks. The Wing is the tradition and that is what will never be changed. I'm just saying.
I like em. They are classic. and sorry to all of you that hate them, but they are officially part of our tradition. A BCS winning Michigan team wore numbers on the helmet.
Michigan's undefeated in bowls when they wear numbers on their helmets. Let's leave them on until the streak is broken.
no numbers and no stickers.
All the little extras (helmet numbers and block Ms) detract from all the essentials of the best uniforms out there, the winged helmet and the maize and blue uniform.
i'm not a huge fan of the numbers on the helmets. I like the wings and wings alone...that being said, if they keep the numbers for 2013, it's not going to keep me from watching them. I just don't want too much crazy uniform stuff very often.
I generally like numbers on helmets, old-school style. But the numbers on M's helmet look forced into a space that's too small.
I agree with that. I thought they should have been a tad bit smaller or moved a little further away from the wings.
There was an interview with Jon Falk and he was talking about the helmets. He said that Bo had him change the facemasks from grey to blue because grey was a color of OSU.
Bo said it best: "No man is more important than The Team." NO to helmet stickers and NO to helmet numbers.
Then why did Bo use stickers?
I really like the numbers on the helmets and the few different jerseys the team has worn this season -- heck, I even liked the white pants.
I don't know why people are getting so upset about these things, especially the numbers on the helmets. The players wanted them, they look cool, and they were on helmets from the past.
For what its worth, and add to this debate, I thought the Oregon helmets for the Rose Bowl were AWESOME, perhaps the best they've ever worn. I don't think Michigan needs to go as far as Oregon does, but a little variation never hurt anyone.
I get tired of people being angry about uni changes. I enjoyed all of them this season, and I'm interested to see what future uniforms are worn. Personally, I'd like to not have the numbers next year and leave them a trademark for team 132 for a few years.
I was not a fan of the numbers on the helmet. They can go...
numbers look awkward to me and just because it was done in the past doesn't make it OK by itself (see: 70's clothing). I also hated the Sugar Bowl unis and loved the Oregon Rose Bowl helmets. Oh, and I like long walks in the park and puppies.
Keep the traditional home jersey, make the Sugal Bowl jersey the standard away jersey and keep the numbers.
They can wear whatever as long as they win!
Smaller numbers, at the back of the helmet. But no stickers, please- that clutters the helmet.
This year the numbers were special to this team 132 yet also represented the 69 team i believe that were the 1st to wear them? something like that. there is the connection to the past of breaking long streaks against our rivals wearing the numbers. If Bo was ok with helmet stickers I definitely am ok with their return. How ever they want to roll is fine with me. i think if they stay they should match the color to the helmet better and more cleanly placed..or permanant paint instead of a sticker.
'69 had stickers but no numbers.
I don't have a problem with Hoke and the players putting their stamp on the program with the temporary use of helmet number. As long as the official helmet doesn't change. I don't want to see helmet numbers on the helmets sold at mden.
I think they should make the numbers permanent so we never have to worry about having helmet stickers!
and it isn't interfering with the coaching then the coaches and team can make up their own minds. It would look cool against Alabama but if we lose we should leave them off.
Don't get me wrong, I kind of liked the numbers and grey facemasks at first, but I don't think they should return for next year. If they do return, I'd like the color of the numbers to match the color of the helmet better. Also, the grey facemask should be blue...it just looks better.
The numbers were a nice touch.
Just let the players decide and leave it at that. It doesn't detract from the helmet, and we've had them in the past so it shouldn't get the hardline traditionalists' panties in a bunch. I for one am really indifferent, but I think they are functional and look pretty cool.
All I care about are glitter helmets. Dear gawd, if we ever go glam like TSIO I'll lose my chit. Glitter is for strippers, pickle-puffin ravers & buckeyes.
Speaking of pOSU, let them have the helmet stickers to go with their Barbie dream helmets.
Take the numbers off for the Bama game, we don't want to look like our prey.
I don't have a real strong opinon either way; I do like the look with them, fwiw.
Given how Brady brought them back for the B1G portion of the schedule, I wouldn't mind if he did that again next year.
Fritz. He didnt but them on so why should 132 or 133? I dont like messing with traditions. Thats just me, and Im old. There is something to be said for traditions....they dont change. By definition if a tradition is changed, its not a tradition anymore.
Do we want to be chic and cool like Oregon, or do we want to have tradition and honor? We are College Football for a reason.
Dude, Fritz Crisler completely "messed with tradition." He took our plain blue helmet, which we'd used for a long time, and painted wings and stripes on it. It's only tradition now because his successors decided to keep his radical new design.
I don't like them personally. I really don't like that the maize color of the numbers was not the same shade of maize on the wings. That was very irritating to my marketing eyes.
I despise them, along with the Sugar Bowl uniforms that made the numbers look weak and skinny.
Now little wolverine helmet stickers? Those I've always loved.
No. They should not come back. Ever again.
...so keep them.
BTW i do like the numbers on the helmet
edit: sorry about the double post :/
...so keep them.
BTW i do like the numbers on the helmet
Michigan has the most iconic headgear in sports without the numbers. Take them off. Forever.
Unbelievable that people on this thread don't mind seeing helmet numbers stay. Make the helmet extremely busy and frankly, the no number helmet is famous for a reason. Let the winged design be the only thing on the helmet, for tradition's sake.
Being a traditionalist stick in the mud, I never wanted to see anything regarding Michigan Stadium or the uniforms fucked with. However, I like the numbers AND there's some history behind them. As cool as the old pics of the likes of Rick Leach and Rob Lytle are, with their helmets covered in stickers, I'd prob take numbers over stickers.
The alt-unis, I'm divided on. If the kids in them dig them, I guess I can live with that. (While the simple old bowl in the ground was the greatest place in the world as far as I was concerned when I was growing up, I now think the renovations and additions at the stadium are excellent.)
Now that the albeit awesome return-to-glory / Team 132 / Hoke's first / UTL season is over I hope Michigan Football returns to a more clean, traditional and focused approach to, in the words of Uni Watch, Athletic Aesthetics. No numbers, blue facemasks, and a consistent approach to away uni's. Just pick one. And fergodsakes don't join in on the uniform stunt of a rival like we did in E.L., especially having the players change uniforms after warmups (did that REALLY happen?? I wasn't able to see the whole game on TV that day but if it did, what a way to distract your team.)
Anyway ... no numbers.
I thought the last-second uni change in East LA was a shaky move, too. We needed to be a little less let's-upstage-MACs-unis and a lot more let's-beat-the-shit-out-of-MAC.
Go back to the old helmet.
Keep the helmet clean.
No but if they must it should be used on night games and special games, + change the # font 2 match #'s on the jersey's, GO Blue<