Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....Before the crazy Pac-12 refs retroactively try to throw a flag...
Should Gibbons have been called for a false start on the winning-kick?
No because he set himself for 1 second.
Not to be a douche because WOOOOOOOO SUGAR BOWL WIN WOOOOOO
But he did not set himself for a second. However, spirit of the rule and all that: He gained no advantage for moving forward at the snap (so no Illegal Motion). He gained no advantage for simulating a snap (false start). Therefore, there's no reason to throw a flag.
Technically, yeah it could have been called. But you ask the VTech coaches and they'll say no, it's not a call-worthy offense.
Maybe a second is not the best time interval but he did reset himself after foward movement.
I love your post.
SUGAR BOWL CHAMPS!!!! WHOOOO!!!!
I'd be so pissed off tonight. They have all the bitching rights in the world after this game.
I dunno man the tip of that ball definately hit the ground.
but that rule is just terribly written, and I meant the game as a whole, they deserved to win. We got a lot of lucky breaks and things going for us by inches. I thought their fake punt was a bad call that might have cost them the game (should have just gone for it with normal offense) but if that was a poker game, I'd be cashing my chips and getting out of town as quickly as possible.
If I had just watched my team deploy that kind of special teams performance, I would not be saying we deserved to win. I should know: I did watch that kind of special teams performance, back on New Year's Eve.
I don't think he landed inbounds.
Yeah but besides that call I would be mad about special teams in general for both teams. We had a lot of luck, they made some bad calls and got unlucky, but I'll take the win.
Eh, if they could have got their ground game going, or converted in the red zone, or not fumbled, (I'm gonna give that Frank Clark interception entirely on Frank Clark), or not missed thier last field goal, or threw a better ball on that corner to Coale, then it wouldn't have mattered. The only legitimate gripe they have is that ridiculously lucky botched FG at the end of the first half. Plus, after the end of Iowa game, I would say karma owed us a bit.
Boo-hoo. Our All-America center got hurt 10 minutes before the game. That's a worse break than anything they got.
Molk was not himself tonight. He was laboring out there. Borges's offensive gameplan didn't look great, but to be fair to him, it's got to really suck to spend all these weeks preparing a gameplan and then have your best lineman get hurt right before kickoff.
Not to mention RVB got hurt early (he was on crutches afterward) in the game and had to play through it.
They don't really have a right to bitch about the officials, but VT fans have every reason to be pissed at their team for dominating in the stats but losing in the only stat that really counts. Ultimately, though, it will go down in the books as a Michigan victory, and nobody except VT fans and Michigan fans will give a shit in a week or so.
When someone is going through the scores, all they are going to see is a Michigan victory. That's good enough for me.
For every time they bitch about the officials (assuming they do), show the double hands to the face penalty that was missed twice ont he 4th and 11 conversion. It was directly in the ref's face but missed. As blatant as they come
Straight arm to the face by their receiver out blocking for their qb.
That said, Demens was not good tonight, not good at all.
He was clearly out of bounds before ever having possession. No more need be said.
Also, there were a couple of very blatant holding penalties the refs did not call on the VT Oline, one of which, I think, happened on the 4th down scramble up the middle.
He didn't have possession. The ball wasn't in his hands so much as between his forearms, and the nose of the ball hit the ground at the same time his elbow did.
I just assumed the replay gods would give it to them, because that's the way it has gone all year.
Kickers do that all the time. Not the stutter-step, but start their wind up before the ball is snapped.
11-2. GO BLUE!
But this thread shouldn't have been made. We have 2-3 threads on the game already. If you really wanted to know, you could've asked it there.
Seems like a funny comment coming from a guy who starts 12 threads a day. :)
I'm pretty sure I only created 11 today. Boom, roasted.
Clearly the posters above was poking fun at me...I respond with a lighthearted joke back and get double negged.
I can definitely see how this drives certain folks to just post more with the intentions of just pissing people off. I now see how this board drives people into being d-bags because of stuff like what just happened. Two people simiply joking and a couple of folks going neg happy.
However, Michigan won the f-ing Sugar Bowl. I'm definitely not going to go on a MGoBlog crusade because of stupidity like that. GO BLUE!
P.S. I love me some haters. So keep it up! What makes it even better is when they don't post afterwards or bring something to the conversation.
Go Blue! Thank you seniors! Team 132, forever.
Who gives a fuck? Dude just won himself free beer for the rest of his life in AA, if not the whole state.
I've got the west, if someone wants to cover the east
I've seen steps like that before and I've never seen it called
IDK, but there were about 400 favorable spots and missed calls all game on them. The officiating was just terrible all around.
Seriously. How about the no call block in the face on our DB on that 4th and 11 play that Logan ran for? He almost knocked our guy's helmet off. That would have saved the TD.
I believe it was our last drive in regulation. Denard tried to throw down the sideline to Hemingway and in real time all you saw was Hemingway on the ground. When they showed the replay the DB got beat and BLATANLY grabbed/stuck his leg out to trip Junior, but they call the ticky tack PI on Countess in the endzone on a ball that Shaq might not have caught. All in all officiating happens, luckily we made less mistakes than them and were more disciplined, defense played AMAZING in the red zone when it mattered and held them to field goals.
But great win nonetheless. Under 200 yards of offense but the defense played pretty good. Beamer made some bad coaching decisions also. Team 132 congrats.
yes - absolutely yes. but i don't care
Did you see Gibbons drill that thing? The 5 yards wouldn't have mattered.
/s and yes he should have.
Technically if he stops for a full second... It should be ok? either way.. I didn't celebrate right away because I assumed a flag would be thrown
Yeah, I think he was called for that one other time this year.
I don't care either.
So many lucky breaks in a game VT dominated. Regardless, I'm getting the fuck out of town.
credit to Michigan. Yes, the V-tech D did dominate but so did the Michigan D. The majority of V-tech's offensive output = field goals. The Michigan D was on, as was V-tech's. We need to give credit where credit is due.
all night. He said that his timing was off. I saw him do it on one other occasion. I kept thinking it was a false start.
But the mods should delete this thread so the VT fans don't use it as evidence to whine.
Gibbons got called for moving to the line earlier in the year, didn't he? Either way, he did it on EVERY FG ATTEMPT! So, if they were going to call it, they would have called it. Sure, VT played better for most of the game, but they also put a few bullet holes in their shoes, too (if you know what I mean). Either way, we'll take it.
It must be legal... otherwise he did it four times. His most exaggerated one was on the fake.
He is being interviewed at College Game Day inside the stadium post game. Didn't VanBergen say that he would take it off if they won?!?
He was a back in motion. In HS I doubled as the kicker and a back and I used to linke up for a FG or Extra Point go in motion and the holder would stand up and pitch me the ball. At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Enjoy don't destroy.
Who the hell care, who gives a damn, the game is ova, HONK, HONK, HONK, HONK, HONK
You should be flagged for a false start.
One year ago
You made me sad
You make me glad
All that will be remembered going into next year is a win for Michigan!!! Now time to start working on getting Garnett and any other road grading beast we can in recruiting and have them eating their Wheaties before next fall in Dallas. Molk being hurt tonight just didnt leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy thinking about Alabama's D line.
Hopefully Borges' statements on QBs improving in the 2nd yr holds as true, if Robinson can start to really make defenses pay in the passing game, that will loosen up getting 9 men in the box and really open things up for the team.
It reminded me of the one we took up the shooter in the Iowa game.
I don't know what the right call is, but you lose one and win one.
All year we heard about how Gibbons was supposed to be iffy, but what did he finish, like 14-18 on the season? The guy was actually very good. Don't forget his clutch make at the end of the Ohio game, too.
that his movement towards the line could have/should have been called.
That being said....that was a very poorly officiated game.
And Beamer's decision to go for it was turrible too.
Also....is VT really that good on defense? Borges...Hoke...Denard looked totally lost.