Sexual Predator was just the Tipping Point for Anzalone
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=384313
This article has some very, very interesting quotes from Dr. Anzalone (Alex's father). Seems like a decommitment was coming even before the events of today/yesterday and they are biting their tongues as to what really "wasn't right" at OSU.
As in when recruits decommit?
I have read up on this BDubsTriviaGuru over the past few days and have not seen any evidence of interaction between he and Lewis Neal.
That makes it worse for OSU, IMO. I don't really fault them for how they appear to have handled the Waugh thing so far. They can't be expected to do a background check on every schlub who tweets their recruits. They handled it in about as timely a fashion as they could've.
But you add what Neal said to the other stuff the Anzalones said and you start smelling something rotten. If it was a couple of recruits getting weirded out and decommitting because of just this one guy, OSU could do some damage control there, maybe even bring those guys back into the fold. Something else has turned those guys off the school entirely. Meeting a sex offender shouldn't be enough to do that.
Nope, the Neal interview seems to be proof that something else is wrong.
There are a lot of funny things which occurred and I'll try to map out the ones on my mind, but I don't think that this reaches Ohio State recruits that committed before the Spring game..
There's no doubt that Bosa, Anzalone, and Heuerman really hit it off on the weekend of OSU's Spring Game. Word from the recruitniks over at 11w was that all three were all Buckeye. Bosa, Neal, and Anzalone all committed shortly after the game. Then, something happened. I don't pretend to know what, but Heuerman had a sudden "change of heart" and decided to commit to ND, despite spending the previous weekend actually recruiting FOR Ohio State.
Then, Lewis Neal decommits. I personally think that his "personal" reasoning has more to do with his grandmother than it does issues with the TriviaGuru, but I suppose anything is possible. His grandmother (she raised him) wants him to stay close to home in N.C.
Then word comes out about the TriviaGuru. Then, people start to draw the lines about what exactly he did when he returned to Columbus for the Spring Game. I didn't think Neal was linked, but this picture below me may have proved me wrong.
Then, Anzalone decommits. Alex from 11w says that this is 100% about the BDubsTriviaGuru. Then, reports come out of Anzalone's hometown newspaper that it was the "nail in the coffin." Choose to believe who you want, but my take is that there were some things that went down on the evening of April 21 that should not have.
I just hope that Bosa doesn't follow suit.
I agree with your take. This is total speculation, but I'm guessing what happened is the recruits had a great time, probably too good a time. Now the stuff comes out about this tosuguru guy and parents and coaches start asking questions about what happened that visit and some details emerge that probably don't cast osu in a good light to the parents and maybe mean possibly rules violations for the school, and the recruits start backing off or decomitting and maybe the coaches start backing off too.
Neal may end up being a red herring in all this, but I gotta think stuff like this tends to get around so it wouldn't shock me if his decommit wasn't at least partially related either.
Remember, Ohio State is on probation. Wouldn't you take extra steps and due dilligence to make sure that "stuff doesn't go down"?
You already know that the spotlight is on you. You already know that Meyer has a reputation for lax discipline for star athletes. You already know that there is the perception that he is bringing SEC recruiting tactics to the Big Ten.
How in the world do you leave anything to chance? Even if you don't actually care, you at least try to keep the spotlight off of your shenanigans.
I used to think Ohio State was just corrupt. Now I think they are dumb and corrupt.
Is that Neal?
From Ohio football roster
How does this happen?
There are a lot of people here who would love to get their picture taken with, say, Denard. How many of you actually have? What, hypothetically, would you have to be doing to get this kind of access repeatedly with what seems to be damn near everyone they were recruiting? (ok, i'm exaggerating, but this is not a random one-off LOOK, WOW, IT'S SO-AND-SO SOMEBODY TAKE MY PICTURE QUICK!)
Maybe I don't hang out with the right crowd, but this is weird to me.
Clearly you've never been to an Ohio State football game. The players come out of the dressing room and meet with fans/family after games, especially spring games. It's right by the busses, and it's far from uncomon. Anybody can stand there. If a player wants to take a picture or sign something for a fan, he can, if he wants to get on the bus and not go outside the gates, he can do that too.
If you want to seriously engage with a rival fan base, don't be condescending. Even IF you made a good point you are "clearly" coming off like a dick in every one of your posts.
Edit...I read further, and take back the sentiment you're always condescending..just several posts In this thread.
1. A mom posting at 1:50 a.m. So.Cal. time
2. Calling another poster a "dick" which my wife might do, but isn't commonly seen by women on the interwebs
3. You are associated with the brewing arts
4. Pliny the Elder is appropriate to this story: "With man, most of his misfortunes are occasioned by man."
5. Patiently educating a buckeye in social graces.
I'm not going to be a dick if you know what you're talking about. If you say something that is incorrect and act like you know what you're talking about, you deserve to be called out on it, regardless of your fandom.
And no, I've never been to a football game in Columbus.
I guess it's not that I don't hang out with the right crowd, it's that I don't hang out with the wrong crowd.
I don't like that guy's face. He's all titled head, smiley, and weird.
Hey, Mr. Rogers was a good man! You chose the avatar, anyway.
No problem Magnum, I'll finish Fred's idea: something about that guy's aura screams pedophile.
and you see his picture, doesn't it seem so obvious?
Just a strange coincidence...
/Head in the sand
Sounds like there could be even more coming and itt's not going to be good. More violations? This after Gene Smith says OSU is "too big to fail". Insane.
I understand the stigma associated with sexual predators, but this particular creeper got in trouble for possessing photographs of minors. How does this worsen the situation? Chances are, the predator/man isn't trying to get photographs of the athletes. He is probably just a stalker-type fan. As a parent, a sexual predator (especially of this variety) on campus means that I don't want to send my children there. The case is much different if we're dealing with a 17 year old who is almost an adult. It's a ridiculous cop out to call this guy simply a sexual predator when he is actually being attacked for stalkerish behavior that some of our own fans exhibit.
urban meyer= sandusky lite?
Dude... I hate Urban. I think he's as slimy a coach as you could get. I think he mistreats his family. But nobody is Sandusky lite. Boo on you.
Just, no.
No.
You sit in the box, one week, and you feel shame.
Second best sports movie ever, after Major League.
Bull Durham and Caddyshack are up there.
I just bought myself an all-expenses paid trip to Bolivia.
Damn, now I can't post threads. My fault.
Then you get free.
Hurray! I won't mess this up.
Do we even know what the deal is with the sexual predator anyway? Unless I missed something, all it said is that he had to register for being in possession of porn involving minors. Disgusting? Yes. But many of you seem to be making too many unwarranted assumptions from this information. Porn involving minors could mean all manner of things. All of you seem to assume that this means little boys, which it may not. Also, as far as I’m aware, he never acted on it. It is perfectly possible for this guy to be a sports fan along with his sexual deviancy. Plenty of non sexual predators contact recruits for non sexual reasons- some of you do. This was an unfortunate event, but you shouldn’t read into it so much without more information. I am not defending sexual predators, I’m just saying that we should avoid coming to premature conclusions.Furthermore, the suggestion that this reflects on Urban Meyer as a person or the kind of program he runs is insane. I’m actually very disappointed by the response this incident has received from some of you. Anzalone didn’t give a concrete reason for his decommitment. Don’t put word in his mouth, that’s unfair to him.
Porn of somebody under 18 is something nobody in their rite mind should wanna look at.
At no point did I claim otherwise.
If you're 17 and have a titpic of your 17-year-old high school girlfriend, that's possesion of child pornography. Obviously that's not what this creepo did, he had pictures of underage people engaging in sex acts, which is disgusting and horrible and he should be in jail, not out on probation. But not everyone who is busted for that crime is actually a pervert, if so, 90% of high schoolers are sex offenders, fwiw.
And 70% percent of statistics are made up on the spot.
It's 60% of statistics I think, and you missed the point.
I think the 70% is made up as well. It appears you missed the point
Can I be condescending to this guy? Please?
Sixty percent of the time, it works every time . . .
with your logic and reasoning,i have no doubt that you are a ohio grad. problem solving is not your schools strong point.
Hahahaha what did I say that was wrong? Or illogical? Next time you want to come off as smarter than everyone else because you went to the Harvard of the West, make sure you type with correct puncuation. Clown.
http://dailyindependent.com/local/x1192766628/Man-pleads-guilty-to-child-porn-charges
The KSP’s Electronic Crimes Unit plumbed the hard drive of Waugh’s computer and found he had attempted to erase some of the images but that they were still there, [Boyd Commonwealth’s Attorney David Justice] said. Investigators also found evidence to indicate there was “no doubt” that Waugh had downloaded the pictures intentionally, he said.
The images were all of boys younger than 16, Justice said.
Thank you, I was unaware of this fact. However, these recruits are older than that. Also, I still stand by my other comments.
Is there any chance that Anzalone could end up as a Spartan?
I read in the comments on 11W that the O-Zone reported the creep was plying the recruits with free booze and wings at BW3 where said creep works.
1. Free food - NCAA violation.
2. Free booze to underage kids - NCAA violation and illegal.
3. Add in the fact the guy is a pedo and well WHERE THE HELL WERE THE ADULTS?
NIce job Urbz, Geno and Redenbacher. Nice job.
I also have a feeling compliance only woke up after something wrong went down with one of the kids.
If claims 1 & 2 are true, Gene Smith needs to be out on his ass by Monday. IF they're true.
Wish Tressel was still there too. The longer Gee & Smith are there, the better for Hoke and Michigan.
Great pub for BW3. /s
I've never been, but am tired of the stupid ads.