according to 11warriors Se'Von Pittman has been granted his release. I believe he was a guy with heavy interest in Michigan at one point, he must have seen the writing on the wall with all the young, talented, DE's osu has. He seems like a talented kid. It will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Not sure how he could see the writing...
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It could have been a "maybe you should go some place where you can get more playing time" type thing. Or maybe he was just unhappy there.
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He stayed at OSU about as
He stayed at OSU about as long as he was committed to MSU.
Is this the kid they snaked
Is this the kid they snaked oiled from sparty?
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Damn iphone
Damn iphone
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Yeah. I'm tempted to see what
Yeah. I'm tempted to see what RCMB is saying but I don't want to lose brain cells.
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Little brother syndrome is
Little brother syndrome is strong over there.
Yes. He was one of the first
Yes. He was one of the first of Urban's flips.
The Columbus Dispatch is reporting that it had to do with "off-field issues."
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/blogging-the-buckeyes/2013/03/osu-spring-pittman.html
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If you are not a starter, any screw-up and you are out
Off Field Issues...
...sounds like he should have stayed a Sparty commit.
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He did deal with injuries,
He did deal with injuries, but the consensus was that he'd compete. Now maybe with Washington and Spence combining for something like 400 snaps as true freshman, he saw his chances slip, but I think the injury made the situation worse, and there's always the chance that he's one of the inevitably existent guys that don't end up buying into Meyer's pretty demanding system.
You mean he wasn't in the
You mean he wasn't in the Inner Circle of Truth Trust?
Transfer
Who was the last incoming transfer that had significant playing time for Michigan?
Grant Mason from Stanford?
Grant Mason from Stanford?
I got a letter from the government the other day . . .
Interesting
I never realized he was a transfer. I guess he would be the answer to the question then as far as I know.
Steven Threet from GT
Steven Threet from GT
Oh yeah
Totally forgot about Threet being from Tech.
Austin Panter
JC transfer
Once a kid has changed his mind several times I'd assume
Hoke & Co. would be pretty wary.
Hoke Passed on him
Se'Von tried committing to UM and Hoke passed on him... soon after he committed to MSU, and then Urban decided he wanted him and blessed him with an offer *cough cough.* I don't think Hoke would even take a peep at this kid
Hoke 2016
What
What are you talking about "wary"?
-Alex Legion
It sounds like Louisville is
Edit - Beaten to the punch.
I don't know what the
I don't know what the situation is, but if you're a defensive lineman and you don't like competing for a spot then OSU isn't the place for you right now.
He made a bad becision
to begin with and now it's bitng him in the ass. He really shoulda stayed committed to Sparty, he woulda got playing time there.
Would he have? Honestly, if
Would he have? Honestly, if he can't cut it at Ohio, why would he be able to at MSU? If someone leaves after their first year, there's something more than just playing time going on. Probably some additude type issues, but that's just a guess.
Well, Pittman entered in the
Well, Pittman entered in the same class as Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington, a year after Kenny Hayes and Steve Miller, and a year before Joey Bosa and Tyquan Lewis. It might be attitude issues, but there's also considerable talent there.
Michigan State...not so much.
I understand there's a lot of
I understand there's a lot of other talent to take snaps from him, but Pittman was also a consensus top-100 type talent with a lot of upside. And he didn't even give it the time to see how things shook up. Just seems short sighted, which speaks of the wrong type of additude to make really make it at the BCS level. MSU seems to take it's time developing players, so he might not have seen as much immediate playing time at MSU either.
I don't think MSU takes their
I don't think MSU takes their time to develop players any more than other places. If you're good enough, you'll play.
When you bring in that many talented players in three classes, there are bound to be casualties. There were like 6 or 7 DE prospects who are 4-stars or better over the span of three classes. Since Pittman left, that just means that now Tracy Sprinkle or Chase Farris won't.
I hear what you're sayin'
I'm just coming from the stand point that MSU doesn't have the blue chippers ohio does from A-Z, that's all
Buckeye rejects
Would he have? Honestly, if he can't cut it at Ohio, why would he be able to at MSU?
Buckeye rejects are always welcome in East Lansing.
Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!
They just turned down some
They just turned down some osu transfer last season.
Black stripe
Urban Meyer has a tradition that every freshman has to put a piece of black tape on their helmet, a right of passage. As the players work harder and meet their goals during camp, an upperclassman removes it. From what I read, Pittman was the only freshman who did not lose his black stripe.
Hate to say it but I like
Hate to say it but I like that. I really like what that symbolizes on all levels. I'm sure we do something simillar but got to give the devil his due.....that is a pretty cool tradition.
Rich Rodriguez tried
Rich Rodriguez tried something similar. In particular, I remember Jerald Robinson, Tate Forcier, and Austin White all having to "earn their wings." Obviously, all those guys have transferred since.
And today's news of the Devin
And today's news of the Devin redshirt allows me to read about Tate and his wingless attitude without getting all riled up about burning Devin's redshirt.
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Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
richrod
I always thought that his problem was, and Tate is a good example, he only knew who to tear players down and that doesn't work with everyone.
I think of justin turner too.
I am not condoning or condeming richrod, just saying that the 'wings' program is a good example of negetive reinforcement.
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We are the dead.
Some kids just don't respond
Some kids just don't respond well to criticism or accept being challenged. Unfortunately, our quarterback was one of those types of kids. Justin Turner was just a lost cause.
I agree
It's all perception.
Giving all the freshman a stripe and having them work towards losing it is good. Everybody does it, you earn the right to be a part of the team. If the player fails it's his fault, not the coaches.
Taking something away from a select few who are underperforming is bad, now it's not a right of passage it's a punishment. You singled out a player in front of his teammates and embarrassed him, there's no going back from that.
Pet peeve
Negative punishment NOT negative reinforcement.
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As opposed to positive
As opposed to positive punishment?
Actually
Actually yes.
"It's me Bitches"
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This doesn't work
With your avatar AT ALL.
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Yeah, it was very
Yeah, it was very disappointing to see how he tore down Denard and Taylor. You'd think he would have learned how to positively motivate players after the disaster with Pat White and Steve Slaton.
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
I'm pretty sure most programs
I'm pretty sure most programs have something similar if not quite as ritualized. I must say, I really do like the idea of an upperclassman removing the tape; builds more community in the team than a coach doing it.
I actually
I actually kinda like this idea too. It makes sure that the kids don't get too cocky and understand that just because they might have been highly touted coming out of high school, there are still guys that have been in the program longer and and know what it takes to make it at their school. I thought I remembered hearing stories about Meyer doing something with pink jerseys too, but I don't think it had to do with freshman.
It's because he never really
It's because he never really had a committable offer to play there. Just an offer to dress up and practice.
Going out on a limb...
I'm thinking Hoke has as much interest in a kid who thus far has committed to msu, o$u rendering Big Blue 3rd as he does in coaching on the sidelines of the Big House in Eddie Murphy's stand up suit. This is MEEECHIGAN ferGodsakes!
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Wow
Nice, big blue and the ole $, the 2 for 1,
A: Big Blue is Kentucky
2:
A: Big Blue is Kentucky
2: Pittman already tried to commit to Michigan but Hoke turned him down.
and D: Eddie Murphy's stand up suits are legendary
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This was a Top 100 kid. One would think he would have had every chance to compete.
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