Three B1G teams in the top five. Surprised to see lil bro this high.
1. Mich
2. Kan
3. Fla
4. Ind
5. MichSt
6. Syr
7. Butler
8. Gonz
9. Ore
10. Ariz
11. Miami
12. Lou
13. Duke
14. UCLA
15. Wich St
16. Creighton
17. OhioSt
18. Wisc
19. NCSt
20. Ole Miss
21. KState
22. New Mex
23. UNLV
24. San Diego St
25. Georgetown
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Ridiculous list
Yep no way shape or form will
Yep no way shape or form will duke drop 13 spots.
12 spots
He has Duke dropping 12 spots
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"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine" - K
You mean he didnt have duke
You mean he didnt have duke to good to be ranked and listed at #0??
If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field
At the same time, they just
At the same time, they just haven't looked nearly as good without Kelly
Where should they be ranked
Where should they be ranked then after 2 losses one of which was a 30 point blow out to an unranked team?
Those wins over Louisville and Kentucky don't look as impressive as they they did earlier in the season.
The thing that is ridiculous is that MSU is number 5. They where ranked 13th before they lost to Indiana so I doubt they jump any spots after a loss
MSU should be around 15. No
MSU should be around 15. No 4 loss team should be 5.
903 wins most in college football
Sparty
Didn't sparty lose...
But remember than Sparty beat
But remember than Sparty beat the team that beat us.
I'm so sick of Lil Bro. Can't wait to crush them.
And we beat one of the teams
And we beat one of the teams that beat them...we can do this all day.
lol bro
Sparty looked good today. So did the Hoosiers. Rather not play either of them...
We'll beat Indiana Saturday
We'll beat Indiana Saturday night. Write it down.
All in for some manball.
What up Rawls. How you still
What up Rawls. How you still alive yo?
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Glad you're not on the team.
Glad you're not on the team.
Agreed. I get the maize
Agreed. I get the maize colored talk but please 4 losses or not they went to Indiana and gave them all they could handle with Appling playing like a joke. Harris is there with GRIII and Canadian Bacon as Big 10 freshman of the year candidate, Payne is playing out of his mind since he started fighting teammates and Appling has played well ex Indiana. And Dawson is still getting into playing stride. It's a good team - is it #5 or #12 or whatever. Who knows - but this team is talented with a coach that is good. Indiana also tough, Zeller played like junk most of the game and they still won. Those seem to be the top 3 in the BIg 10 and without UM playing either of them yet and losing to Ohio on the road it's still a toss up. I expect all 3 to be 1-2 slotted in the NCAA, maybe one falls to 3 if there are some injuries, but if you are a 2 seed you are top 8. Ohio is a 1.5 man show so I think the next tier down but going to be a tough game always at home.
I get the maize colored talk
I get the maize colored talk but please 4 losses or not they went to Indiana and gave them all they could handle with Appling playing like a joke
But Minnesota did the same thing, and Wisconsin beat them there. Is it possible Indiana's homecourt advantage is not as great as we think?
I understand them getting a
I understand them getting a small bump (or holding steady) from a good showing on the road. What I don't understand is why they seemingly aren't dinged for their close wins. As I see it, MSU has 3 quality wins (KU, OSU, Wisc). But their resume is 8 points away from being total garbage. That just seems unusual for a top-5 team, especially one with 4 losses.
Whisky quality win? They
Whisky quality win? They aren't even ranked and shot 7-18 from the free throw line against MSU, ah, NO.
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Even if they are more boring
Even if they are more boring to watch than watching paint dry, I'd say that winning at Indiana is quality.
EDIT: My bad, I thought you meant that Wisconsin didn't have a quality win this year. None the less, winning at Wisconsin is still a quality win in my book (Has Michigan ever won at the Kohl Center?).
Creighton?
16 after losing to Drake this week? Seems a bit high for them. I figured they would drop out of the top 25. Louisville at 12 seems high as well at this point.
I love who is #1 for obvious
I love who is #1 for obvious reasons. But that's still a questionable poll.
Sparty loses yet they go from 15th to 5th? Butler and Oregon are too high. And although Duke get spanked, I'm not sure about them being that low. I hate them, yes, but they still have some impressive wins.
Go Blue! Always!
Yeah, that poll is jacked.
Yeah, that poll is jacked.
All in for some manball.
Agreed. I'd like to see his
Agreed. I'd like to see his poll from last week to get some perspective because this looks ridiculous. Should be grounds for pulling his vote.
Wisconsin needs some love.
Wisconsin needs some love.
Minnesota out?
Hmm...
Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.
They've lost four
They've lost four straight...not too surprising.
You guys seen Duke without
You guys seen Duke without Kelly? They ain't a top 5 team. They're still good but Seth I think obviously feels that they belong lower without Ryan Kelly. Sparty, unfotunately, is picking up it's level of play and though they might not be a top 5 team I have no arguments by putting them a top 8-10 team.
Also, Oregon is a sneaky good team. A team that could go knock a team or two out in the March Tourney. Butler is legit. They lost to LaSalle, yes, but a very good and very well coached team. No problem with them top 10. Georgetown is also a good team and will rise I feel. They have talent a,d similar to N.C. State when they put it together they're a damn good team; when they don't they're very mediocre.
Re: MSU, it doesn't matter
Re: MSU, it doesn't matter how "good" you are if you can't win...
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
But they are winning. They
But they are winning. They won 6 straight Big Ten games before today. 2 of those were road games at very tough venues (Carver Hawkeye, Kohl Center). Today they again went to the wire with a top 5 team nationally, in their own house. Obviously one can argue with Seth Davis' poll, which I personally agree with save for a bit of rearranging of a few teams, but the guy watches basketball day in and day out and has a good idea of who's good and who's better. You're right in that Sparty has 4 losses and that should hurt them a bit when it comes to the polls. But they are playing excellent ball right now and for a guy to rate them higher than other really good teams right now isn't far fetched; Sparty at this point in the season can compete with top notch teams (as they showed today). KenPom has them has them at 16 FWIW. Also FWIW, it pains me to write positively about Sparty!
Yeah it's cool a guy tweeted
Yeah it's cool a guy tweeted us as #1, but this top 25 is not even close to what it will be tomorrow.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
Seems to me this is more of
Seems to me this is more of who he thinks are the best teams in the country. Not necessarily what the polls will reflect. I.e., MSU barely lost to IU and will drop due to that. However, they're probably still playing like a top 5-10 team right now.
"For the last 28 years, I've spent my life in the greatest of places, the University of Michigan." -Lloyd Carr
Wisconsin?
Not even ranked my man. Not an impressive enough win to cancel a loss.
The only top 25 that I care
The only top 25 that I care about at all is:
"1. Michigan"
Florida seems high at 3.
Florida seems high at 3. There wins are basically Wisconsin, Marquette, and Missouri. The SEC is incredibly weak this year.
Same with Kansas and their
Same with Kansas and their conference.
Yeah but Florida doesn't determine how weak sec is
Can't hold that against them. And they're absolutely murdering teams. The question is does beating bad teams by 30 say as much about you as beating good teams by 10-15. Rankings like Kenpom/ sagarin/ LRMC are built on the assumption that it does mean a lot and that it is predictive. And those rankings have Florida #1
You can hold how bad the SEC
You can hold how bad the SEC is against them. It happens all the time. Gonzaga is 19-2 and would be ranked higher if they were in a better performing conferene. The same goes for Oregon.
Florida has beaten 1 ranked team all season. They lost their two biggest non conference games to the #2 team in the Big12 and the #3 Pac12 team. The combined Sec records of the teams Florida has played is 13-23 and that contingent has racked up losses to Southern Youngstown St., GT(last place in the ACC, USF (last place in the Big East), Iona, Troy, Providence, Loyola Ill, and Alabama A&M.
In my opinion no one would be scared to see Florida in their bracket come March.
Kenpom
has them as the best team in the country.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
Seth can keep his #1 vote.
Seth can keep his #1 vote. The rest of his ballot however might be better left to his helpers.
Looks like Mr. Davis doesn't
Looks like Mr. Davis doesn't take into account records. IMO way too high for both Gonzaga and butler. Both great mid major programs but put them in the big ten and they would be Purdue.
No. Just no. This isn't
No. Just no. This isn't college football where Northern Illinois can fly up the polls by default. Gonzaga and Butler are among the top 15 programs in country. Butler's conference is probably the 5th best conference this year.
Ill give you top 15 but top
Ill give you top 15 but top 10 is too high for me.
Even as a Butler student I agree with you to an extent
Butler (and Gonzaga I suppose) are probably 10-15 in the polls, becuase they will both lose games they should win, but in tournament play both of those teams are top ten programs. Butler's team defense will mess with even the top teams (maybe not Michigan though), because it isn't like what anyone else plays. Rotnei Clarke is Jimmer Fredette-lite, and Kellen Dunham is Stauskas-lite, Roosevelt Jones is every bit as good as Shelvin Mack was, though he's not much of a jump shooter. Butler is a team you do NOT want to have in your bracket, trust me.
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1. Mich
Go Blue!
MSU is solid. Gunna be great
MSU is solid. Gunna be great games. Should be toss ups with edge going to home court.
They have a team that can beat anyone at any time. All they're losses came when something went wrong. Appling tonight, for example. Honestly, they are good. Should be can't miss games.
What every longshot, come from behind, underdog will tell ya is this... The other guy, may in fact, be the favorite. The odds may be stacked against you, fair enough. But what the odds don't know is...this isn't a math test.
But they've also had a ton of
But they've also had a ton of close wins - Iowa, Nebraska, PSU, Wisconsin. It's not like all their wins have been convincing. They've basically played to the level of their opposition in every game.
This seems like a huge
This seems like a huge overreaction to Duke loosing without Kelly and States "moral victory" against IU with Appling fouled out.
They lost by 30. That's not
They lost by 30. That's not a loss, that's a massacre. Duke is not a top 5-7 team without Kelly. 13 may be a bit low, sure, but it's his poll and one can't complain too much about it. They should be at 9/10, not a big deal from where they are in Davis' rankings.
Sparty's loss isn't about morality, it was a statement that they are playing very good basketball right now and to deny that would be naive. Again, 5 is probably a bit high but a top 10 estimation of that team right now is legitimate. Positive things can be proven even when a team loses; the same holds true for when a team wins ugly, bad things can be taken away from said loss. Sparty is showing over the past couple weeks that they're getting it together. Which sucks. I was looking forward to some for sure a**-whoopings at the hands of Michigan.
But State isn't playing good.
But State isn't playing good. They played good against OSU and Indiana, but played like complete ass against Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and PSU. That is 4 out of their last 6 games that they have played pretty poorly. A team that plays down to shitty opponents and has 4 losses on the year doesn't deserve to be in the top 5.
Duke that low?