But seriously though, who is Plan B?

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Miles says "no" strangely, Mullen says no contact, no smoke around Mora, etc.  Meanwhile, Kawakami is adamant that Harbaugh is an NFL guy.  So who is our Plan B?  Is anyone else hoping that we at least get rejections from Patterson and Stoops to indicate that we at least TRIED?  If Harbaugh ends up not being the coach, who do we end up with?

And if it's Schiano I QUIT LIFE.

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uminks

December 16th, 2014 at 11:49 PM ^

has been around for several weeks. I think it is true and all that is waiting is for Jim to way his options and accept the deal or decline it if he is interested in an NFL team. I don't think Jim will be making a decision until after the last 49ers game. He doesn't have the time. I hope he picks Michigan but  does not, I hope we offer the same type of money contract to entice a good surprise coach as our plan B!

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uminks

December 16th, 2014 at 11:42 PM ^

SEC coaches may not be on the list. That could rule out both Miles and Mullen. I guess I'm not really excited about Mora. I doubt we offer a sweet enough contract to get an established coaches like Bob Stoops.  I like the fact we are swinging to the fences for Harbaugh but if we strike out we could end up someone like Schiano. I will be pissed at my University if this were to occur!

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AeroEngin04

December 16th, 2014 at 11:56 PM ^

Bye waiting til the end of December, we also get to look at fired NFL coaches, which there are always plenty come Black Monday. Who knows, maybe we find our Mora or Carroll. I think it's a better move than a flyer on a middling college coach/unproven coordinator. Tom Coughlin anyone?

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Mr. Yost

December 17th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^

As mentioned above.

I'd prefer a younger NFL coodinator like Adam Gase or Teryl Austin to some old ass Tom Couglin. I understand some coaches can be 100 years old and get the job done, those coaches are usually guys with their names on the field and statues in front of the stadium.

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Perkis-Size Me

December 17th, 2014 at 12:15 AM ^

It'll probably be Schiano, and this entire board will be in full on meltdown mode for days.

I don't want Schiano anywhere near our program, but I just don't know who else would be an option besides him or Addazio. And clearly no one wants Addazio, either.



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Mr. Yost

December 17th, 2014 at 12:37 AM ^

If you go the Teryl Austin/Mark Stoops/Adam Gase route...here are some realistic potential coordinators based on recent success.

Offensive Coordinators (Austin and Stoops have a DC background)

Randy Sanders - FSU
Bob Cole - NIU
...maybe Noel Mazzone at UCLA if you can pry him away from the west coast. Everyone else seems pretty locked in by region.

Defensive Coordinators (Gase has an OC background)

Todd Grantham - L'ville
Hank Hughes - UConn
Brian Stewart - Maryland
Bob Shoop - PSU
Tyson Summers - UCF
Dave Aranda - Wisconsin
...maybe Curt Mallory - Michigan
 

Gase/Grantham is a serious combo. Both have a small MSU tie so they know the landscape.

Stoops/Sanders is another serious combo. Both have Tennessee/Kentucky/FSU connections.

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UPWanderer

December 17th, 2014 at 1:42 AM ^

On the point of Mallory staying on as a DC, there is another coach on staff that did pretty well. I want to suggest Mark Smith did a heckuva job while at UM. The first couple years with the linebackers he had them developing quickly, and last year the defensive line, those young guys starting getting at it too. I suggest that his unit may have been the best unit on the team since he was hired. I think it'd be awesome to keep him on staff.

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Mr. Yost

December 17th, 2014 at 1:37 AM ^

 
 
  1. Because he cheated
  2. Because he's no longer a coach - he's the president of a University.
  3. Because when he was a coach - he was a legend for our biggest rival, it would be a little hypotcritcal going on the road and talking up the school you badmouthed and talking down on the school you praised for so long...right? Would any parent or coach believe what you're selling? Yes? Probably because you're still cheating.
  4. Because we have a President who gives a shit about academics, prestige, etc.
  5. ...wait, why am I doing this? You know EXACTLY why that's the dumbest idea ever.

Why don't we go get Dantonio? We can surely pay him more than MSU can.

Jeez. Some people get to the point with this CC stuff that brain cells just completely shut down.

If this sounds like you, just turn off the computer and come back in a month. I promise you it'll be all over.

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Sione's Flow

December 17th, 2014 at 2:27 AM ^

I understand that Tressel is the last person, we should hire. My point was that UM can't risk another 3-4 year period of sub par performances. We lost to Rutgers and Maryland and got our asses handed to us by Minnesota. The entire culture of Michigan deserves better than what, I believe Addazio and Schiano would bring to the table. I would hire Will Muschamp as HC before those two.

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NJWolverine

December 17th, 2014 at 1:01 AM ^

And that's not good news. If Harbaugh passes and we end up passing Miles for Schiano, then to me that will mean the AD cares more about personal grudges than the success of the football program. I have a different take on the Miles comment, which is that LSU may have forced him to come out and say something. The rumors undeniably affect recruiting (i.e. other SEC coaches using this against him). Another take is that Miles himself is just fed up with not being considered a serious candidate despite his excellent credentials (which will very likely continue given that he had a young team during his "rebuilding" year).

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NJWolverine

December 17th, 2014 at 1:24 AM ^

Not sure if people have written about Schiano in more details, but a couple of points to add. 

First, since he's done something as a head coach, he is IMO much better than Addazio (who's done nothing) or a current assistant coach (no matter how accomplished). 

Second, his teams have some of the highest APRs in the country.  You can't take that away from him.

Third, Schiano deserves praise for identifying (and developing) good players who were lightly recruited.  A number of his NFL players like Ray Rice, Tiquan Underwood, Mohamed Sanu, Devin McCourty and Brian Leonard were lightly recruited, if at all, but turned out to form the nucleus of Schiano's good teams.  

The issue with that, however, is that all of those players are from the NJ area.  As far as I'm aware, Schiano has never recruited in the midwest or the west coast.  He has (and Rutgers continues to) recruited in south Florida, but outside of the "state of Rutgers" (NJ, eastern PA, downstate NY) and south Florida, he has very little recruiting experience. 

This is in no means an endorsement of Schiano.  It's merely a statement that he may be able to find "diamonds in the rough."  I can see a situation where he's hired, keeps Nussmeier (Schiano always ran a pro-style offense anyways), focuses his efforts on defense, and hires some assistants with midwest / west coast recruiting experience, and fields good, but not great teams. 

This is better IMO than taking a complete flyer on an unknown coach or an unproven assistant. 

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SFBlue

December 17th, 2014 at 1:46 AM ^

He would be better than Hoke, but yet another over correction. Carr had difficulty beating spread offenses, so Michigan goes with spread guru RR. RR was viewed as too much of a outsider, and Michigan then hired a former Michigan guy in Hoke. Now we have a coach who is loved by his players but too soft on them, and Schiano is a hardass dick meathead fuck (I mean that in a good way, so were some other good coaches).

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SFBlue

December 17th, 2014 at 2:15 AM ^

I don't consider him a viable plan B and will be as disappointed as many of you if he is hired, but he turned around probably the worst program in major college sports. Rutgers is in the American conference but for him. Nobody's mother could have pulled that off.

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SECcashnassadvantage

December 17th, 2014 at 8:20 AM ^

My mom and quite possibly yours (if she uses a spatula as a weapon) would do better than Mr. Clappy. Don't care how nice he was, but he was the worst coach ever. So much talent on the roster, played terrible big ten teams, and sucked (I know they were young 4 years in a row and no other program deals with that except us). #stilllividsorry

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SECcashnassadvantage

December 17th, 2014 at 1:58 AM ^

Stalin was more nice than Hitler, but both sucked!!!!! We are a top 5 revenue college, so stop the bullshit. We can pay more than Alabama. Harbaugh or Mullen and that is it.

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Jack Hammer

December 17th, 2014 at 1:55 AM ^

F plan B.

Burn the ships.

The longer this takes, the more likely Jim is coming to his stated favorite town during his nomadic life.  Bo is his coaching inspiration. What is more soul-satisfying than restoring his legacy?

Gentleman (and ladies) (and idiot douches Jeff Moss and MICHBRO1-99), batten down the hatches.  Prepare for another couple weeks of pain.  This search isn't just going deep.

It's going Harbaughls Deep.

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