MI Expat NY

April 10th, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^

Hayes is staying as a sophomore and Konig is back.  That's a solid 1-2.  Though I wonder if Hayes will struggle as he becomes more of the focus of the offense/opposing defenses.  They also lose Dukan.  So the only other returners that saw any minutes are Showalter and Brown who averaged 7 and 6 minutes a game respectively.  

They will be relying on a lot of youth next year.  Will be interesting to see just how far back they fall.  Could see them as 5th or worse in the league pretty easily.  

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Yeoman

April 10th, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^

  • 17 Vecenie, CBS
  • 25 Parrish, CBS
  • 18 Harper, CBS
  • 15 DraftExpress
  • 16 ESPN
  • 12 nbadraft.net
  • 16 nbadraftroom.com
  • 13 basketballinsiders.com
  • 9 draftsite.com

I don't vouch for any of these individually, but there seems to be a consensus here.

It's not just the tournament; he's been moving up these lists since last summer. I'm surprised there was anyone that thought he might come back.

 

Yeoman

April 10th, 2015 at 5:45 PM ^

I mean, that's eight of nine mocks that have him going in the top 18. Some have him ahead of Kaminsky.

Of course he's coming out. He was already easily first round before the tournament; now he's moved up another 5-10 slots.

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To answer your question, I just noted that one of the CBS guys hasn't updated his mock since the end of January (and of course that's the one that has Dekker the lowest). Of the others, 7 are current and one was done after the regionals but before last weekend.

Naked Bootlegger

April 10th, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

i live in Madison.  I've endured the Bo Ryan era from its infancy and have actually grown to admire his resiliency.   I've openly argued with Badger fans on numerous occasions in the past decade that "the Badgers will be down next year", only to see the likes of Mike Wilkinson and Frank Kaminsky elevate their game to All-B1G status.   Hate the man for his sometimes sluggish offense and borderline harrassment defensive tactics, but do not doubt his ability to develop players and keep the Badgers among the top tier of B1G basketball squads.   Losing Dekker will hurt, but Bo Ryan will still put a competitive squad on the hardwood next year. 

LSAClassOf2000

April 10th, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^

I have not followed Wisconsin hoops recruiting all that closely so I don't know precisely where this would leave them, but add Dekker to the losses and that's going to be a very, very differnt team next year, I think. I am sort of intrigued actually, although I have this suspicion that Bo Ryan magic is a weird magic and they still might be confounding to a point. 

marco dane

April 10th, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^

Wisky don't lose players like this. Bo's players usally stay the 4yrs and graduate. In fact,I only recall Devin Harris leaving for the pros,however forgot about former Wisky C Rashard Griffin, out of the Chicagoland,who left before his time,while didn't have much of a pro career.

Yeoman

April 10th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

...have they ever had a player faced with the choice before?

Here's a list of their first-rounders since 1990:

  • Michael Finley, 1995, Sr., 21st
  • Paul Grant, 1997, Sr., 20th
  • Devin Harris, 2004, Jr., 5th
  • Alando Tucker, 2009, Sr., 29th

Dekker's borderline lottery; they've only had one junior rank as high, ever, and he came out. Kaminsky last year was "25 to 45".

What they don't ever have happen, except for Rashard Griffith, is for someone to come out before he's ready. Nobody comes out and goes undrafted, as is about to happen at Kentucky. But you can't expect a lottery pick to stay in school.

Yeoman

April 10th, 2015 at 5:46 PM ^

  • Towns lottery (unanimous)
  • Cauley-Stein lottery (unanimous)
  • Lyles lottery (5), 1st round (4)
  • Booker lottery (2), 1st round (7)
  • Johnson 1st round (5), 2nd round (3), undrafted (1)
  • Andrew Harrison 1st round (2), 2nd round (5), undrafted (2)
  • Aaron Harrison 2nd round (6), undrafted (3)

I think that's probably about right. Johnson's size will get him drafted somewhere, it's the Harrison twins that are the question. You can count me among the people that don't think anyone's going to use a pick on Aaron.