I root for the conference, but never our rivals.
Semi OT: Who do you root for: Conference or Rival?
Dido. I also root agaist ranked teams especially if they are in the sec or the big 12. I never root for osu, nd or msu though.
It's sweet, sweet schadenfreude whenever she misses a note.
I take it on a case by case basis. I was rooting for Ohio St to be embarrassed but still win yesterday. Having to win in overtime would have been optimal but as is went was pretty good. The B10 needs OOC wins right now by everyone (looking at you Illinois).
knowing that both Iowa and Minnesota was playing in close games that they "should" be winning, I found myself jumping up and down whenever Navy scored against OSU. i think our rivals in general share this same sentiment.
I root for my team. Fuck rooting for teams that do nothing for me.
Except create a national perception that may put your team into a national title game?
Doesn't mean I have to root for them.
The Big Ten has had a crappy reputation for a few years now. That hasn't prevented OSU from going to two national title games - and PSU would have gone if they'd been undefeated last year.
Agreed. I never root for OSU, ND or MSU.
I root only for my team.....I live in SEC country and it is amazing that SEC fans consider Georgia winning the Little League World Series a few years back somehow linked to SEC supremacy....these idiots take credit for any win no matter what...it is hard to explain. It would be like a Big Ten fan saying it is a Big Ten win if the Chicago Bulls win the NBA championship or Pittsburgs winning the Stanley Cup.
If you need to live ficariously (sp) through other teams then you need to re-examine if your a true fan. I cannot root for my rival.
That's because SEC fans are still butt-hurt over losing the Civil War.
"the primere" conferences
Excellent use of the SEC spelling. I root for schadenfreude. Most of the time that works as against our rivals, but it really depends on the possible story lines. And I totally switch rooting interests in the Syracuse/Minnesota game this weekend. I wanted to see 'cuse win to see rival Minnesota lose, but then when they gave up the ball in OT, I really wanted Minnesota to win so I could watch Michigan to play faster.
I take it game by game, team by team. But never for Ohio State, even when the conference needs it the most (last year's Fiesta Bowl). I agree 100% with f.a., I was hoping MN would end it quick yesterday, which they did. Only to have ESPN add 5 minutes of innocuous field and studio shots on to the end, delaying the UM game even more. Sweet.
Well I live in georgia and that's one of the biggest differences I notice in SEC country.
Friday at work everyone was calling in the radio stations saying how happy they were to see s.carolina def n.carolina for the SEC. It seems like they are more conference pride down hear. Also IMO they are aware that a stronger conference will guarantee you more quality wins for the standings. So yes I would rather see ohio state win...not only for the conference, but when we beat them later in the year it will be that more significant.
I would imagine that conference pride is big down south based on the number of S-E-C chants during College Gameday yesterday.
Yesterday, I found myself rooting for Navy but hoping the rest of the Big Ten teams would win. Given that Iowa, Minny, o$u, Wisco and IU managed to squeak out wins, it's not very encouraging for the conference. Illinois got zooked by a rebuilding Missouri team which was most surprising. I have to hope that the bucks at least show up, next weekend, in the 'shoe.
I found myself doing the same thing. I dont think the I could root for tUOS unless it helped us in some way.
I hope OSU gets crushed! I dont care about how the Big 10 looks to outsiders. I only care about Michigan!
Exactly. People in the SEC can say the Big 10 is weak, but really, Michigan's track record against SEC teams is pretty strong, so I always bring that up.
I root for the conference, usually.
Don't get me wrong, I like an embarassing OSU loss as much as the next guy.... but those teams losing big, especially OOC, just makes Michigan look not as good if we beat them and not as bad if we lose to them.
I will always root for any Big Ten team when they play Notre Dame. A ND loss is as good as schadenfreude gets.
I have two favorite teams:
2) Anybody playing Ohio State
ever, ever root for osu. never.
I understand the point about Michigan looking better and whatnot, but seriously...this is osu we're talking about. Take it from an ohioan these people do not deserve even the most hesitant support from any fan base but the d-bags that already support them.
I can answer this question for OSU fans because I live in Columbus. Unfortunately, I had to watch the game in a bar yesterday because I don't have cable yet. So I went incognito wearing a red and white Oakley shirt. Let me tell you, OSU fans root against us. It was incredible to see how passionately some of the OSU fans were cheering against us. Two thoughts were going thru my head:
1. Could you take some of that energy you use to hate M and use it to like OSU?
2. You do realize it will reflect poorly on the whole conference if M loses, right...?
Typically I pull for the Big 10, even Ohio State when playing someone else. Really, its a win-win situation. If OSU wins, yay Big 10. If they lose, you can still cackle with glee when the camera pans to some dejected buckeye fan with his face in both palms. However, just once I want to see OSU choke up what should be a gimme vs. a no-name team and balance out the universe.
Honestly I think it's gonna take more than just OOC wins by our rivals to improve the conference's appearance. I think you have to look to conference play as well. How many people want to watch Big Ten conference games when the style of play is/has always been 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
Now I understand part of teams improving their image is by winning OOC games, but if we could have some more compelling conference games I think we could see an improvement in image.
As a guy who follows and enjoys hoops as much as football, I have a split personality here.
Hoops, I always cheer for the conference. A lot more value and payoff to pull for them through the season, especially in whatever November/December other OOC games they have in the season.
Football, i dont think its as big a relevant factor as folks make it out to be vis a vis the BCS. Its seems big, but only in the rare case could it really hurt Michigan. Translastion: Navy broke my heart yesterday. That would have been a perfect match for me. I'd have my Navy sweats and hoodies in time for fall weather. And Northern Iowa almost bought me a evening of handle jacking fun while infiltrating BHGP.
It kind of depends. It's good to see the Big ten do well in bowls, but I have to say that I would have found it funny if Iowa or especially OSU lost yesterday to worse teams. However, I was disappointed to see Illinois play so poorly against Missouri.
I root for MSU, PSU, and OSU to LOSE every fucking time they put on their pads. I hope they lose in practice.
I want OSU to win so we can beat a good team in November. It's far better to beat a 11-0 or 10-1 team than a 3-8 or 4-5 team.
The conference. The conference!
If Ohio State smokes USC next week, it will be so much sweeter when we smoke Ohio State in November.
Anything else is thinking with your balls instead of your brain.
I use my brain enough during the work week. My visceral desire is for OSU to get slaughtered every game. I don't fight that desire.
(MSU and ND I typically feel sorry for and don't mind seeing them beat a non-conference school).
(PSU is not a serious rival--I don't care what they do outside of our game with them).
Other than that, I'll root for anyone else against OOC teams.
One exception, I'll root against lil bro if they play any smaller Michigan schools.
When OSU plays USC, or any SEC school, I can't root for either team. It's pretty much impossible for me to enjoy watching those games.
There are a few teams that I just couldn't bear to root for, especially yesterday. Minnesota and Iowa come to mind. Something about Minnesota just aggravates me beyond reason, and Iowa was just making me smack my head against the wall.
Against stronger OCC teams, I usually try to root for Big 10 teams. When USC comes into Columbus next week.. boy we'll see who I like.
I can only give you one vote, but know that I pressed the mouse button with much vigor.
I root for every team on our schedule to win as many games as possible so we have a better "strength of schedule" than other OOC teams. If two teams we play are playing each other, I root for the higher of the ranked teams. It always helps rankings if you've scalped highly ranked teams - which means I've forced myself to root for OSU more than I imagined these last few years.
Also, given this philosophy, I always root for B-10 over OOC teams no matter the B-10 team in question.
I will never, ever, EVER, root for Ohio State! I don't care if every Big Ten team lost and they are our last hope! Never! They suck worse than the girl who broke up with me in 10th grade for the basketball team captain. Never, ever will I root for them! I would rather have a tooth pulled with no pain meds! I would rather have each hair on my sac pulled! I don't even think this rant comes close to saying how much I hate them. Now, they did stick up for RR when he was in trouble with the NCAA, but that still doesn't mean I am going to root for them. I hope USC pounds them again 35 - 3 like last year! GO BLUE and Bucs SUCK!
I remember reading a remark ESPN made about the Michigan Ohio State rivalry. It went something like this:
"Three times in the 90's Ohio State went into the [Michigan] game undefeated. Three times the Buckeyes lost. That is rivalry"
And this was their remark on the Michigan - Ohio State rivalry being the greatest in American sports. While it pains me to see joy in the faces of a Buckeye fan on any Saturday in the fall, it is worth it seeing them lose at the end of the year to us.
I root for MSU against ND and OSU - but besides that all three can lose every game as far as I'm concerned.
I pretty much loathe many of the B10 teams (OSU, MSU, PSU, Wisc) - so I am typically rooting for FAIL
Wouldn't call it "root", but I want the teams we play to be as highly ranked as possible.
I enjoy the pain we bring to little sister. They come into Michigan week with their breast pumped up, then they historically implode after losing to us.
As mentioned above the end of year win at OSU has the double benefit of beating a highly ranked team AND pissing in their Wheaties.
Same approach for PSU...
Hey, it'd be great for everyone to think the Big Ten is the bomb (i.e. the SEC). However, I don't want to ever find myself rooting for a prospective opponent, which last I checked is anyone but Michigan. It's bad karma.
Also, if we're going to get to the BCS championship, I want it to be on OUR accolades, otherwise it'll be second guessed forever. I.E. An undefeated or 11-1 Michigan team likely won't need the rest of the Big Ten to do squat. There's not likely to be many 12-0 or 11-1 teams to say they deserved it more.
A 10-2 team that gets in because the Big Ten is da' bomb won't make everyone else think we deserve it. They'll say we got there because of the Big Ten - just like we all do now with the SEC or Big 12.
Root for us, and only us. Let the rest fall where it may.
You guys are way too emotional in your allegiances.
Apart from Michigan, I just root for teams alphabetically.
Which generally means that Vandy can SUCK IT!
Unless they play Wyoming! (or probably a few FCS teams)
What's your policy on the Akron Zips?
I just root for Michigan, it's as simple as that.
I just root for Michigan, it's as simple as that.
Play to win. I want every team to he undefeated when we play them because ultimately that looks better. I loved that nd won handidly because if we win next week it makes us look a lot better than beating an 0-1 nd team.
There is nothing better than osu being 10/1-0 and us beating them in the last week to knock them out of the title game.
I completely disagree with people that don't cheer for anyone that we play especially when it benefits the conference.
(all of this isn't to say that I don't love it when they lose but I'd rather them win)
There are two teams that I can never root for:
Anything else is fair game. As for next week...I want OSU to lose, but either outcome is okay with me, and I am NOT rooting for USC.
I root for the Big Ten, but never do I EVER want to see OSU, MSU, or Notre Dame win.
I'll only root for the Badgers, Gophers, or Nittany Lions if they are playing a non-conference game.
I care about Michigan, and Michigan only.
I always have the intent going into the game to root for OSU because they are in the Big 10, but then almost as soon as the game starts I say "no f-ing way" and I start to root for whoever they are playing.
I never, ever root for MSU, I absolutely cannot stand those guys. I don't think a program/university/a-holes has ever annoyed me like the group in East Lansing.
I can root for anyone else in the Big 10 usually with no problem, but Bret Bilema definitely is annoying in a dorky, goofball, nerd kinda way.
I never would ever root for OSU. However, I am rooting against USC next Saturday if that makes any sense. I really want the B10 to look as good as possible in the nationl spotlight, so when M is atop it, they are looked upon greatly as well.
No. I'd be willing to bet not. All they care about is rolling through the conference, being the dominant force, and taking their BCS bid. In years they win OOC games they play for a title.
In an ideal world it'd be nice to knock of 12 teams who were undefeated prior to playing us. It's also impractical, so why bother caring?
If we (like USC) are cream of the crop, and the rest of the Big 10 is a BIG step down, would it really matter? Ask OSU, they've made a few big post-seasons lately.
I do want the Big Ten to look good, of course. It just helps us out at the end of the day. But I don't "root" for the rivals. I get as excited about a rival's out-of-conference win as I do when discovering "bag fries" in the bottom of my fast food bag. It's like, well, since they are there, I'll eat 'em.
That is a tough call, but I agree with the case by case basis. If it is the difference between making a bowl or not then I might root for the conference rival because it is more money for the conference (more money for UM). Yet, it is early in the season and O$U can afford a loss. I would not cry if they get thrashed Saturday. I want TP and the rest of those jagoffs to get knocked down a peg or five!
In general I root for the conference teams to win, but I'd die a happy man if Notre Dame never won another game. Part of growing up in South Bend I suppose.
Never for OSU and never for MSU since Dantonio took over.
My problem with the idea of conference perception dictating BCS rankings is that it has never been borne out. When South Florida was undefeated a few years ago, people voted them number one. If the season had ended, USF would have gone to the title game.
Did anyone care that the Big East was the weakest BCS conference? Did anyone care that USF had been in Conference USA just two years before? All that mattered was that there was an undefeated team from a BCS conference. Did anyone give a shit about how horribly OSU was embarrassed in the title game when they sent them back the next year? Nope. They were a one loss team from a Big 6 conference.
I simply cannot bring myself to root for OSU. I will be rooting for USC, because their fans don't subject UM fans to the hatred shown by OSU fans.
I don't really hate anyone, but if I did, it would be OSU.
Rules for Rooting: Michigan
1) Root for what benefits Michigan (Michigan winning a game obviously, but this can include other events)
2) Root against Mich St
3) Root against Ohio St
4) Root against NDp
5) Root against the SEC
6) Root against any Bowden
7) Root against the rest of the Big Ten
8) Root against any other team not indicated
- You rank Michigan State as the bigger enemy when compared to Ohio State?
- You keep using NDp. Why? I've never heard anyone use that.
1) NDp comes from The Victors Message Board....
Board etiquette dictated that you should put a (p) in the title header of your post if there was profanity the body of the message. Soon enough, any mention of ND required a (p), and NDp was born.
2) Since I live in Michigan, MSU is important.
I lived in Michigan for the first 23 years of my life and I've never considered MSU more important than Ohio State.
1) OSU is a nationally known program. MSU is not. When we beat OSU, the national rewards are great. When we beat MSU, we get almost no reward nationally, as we're expected to beat MSU. However, when we lose to MSU, it is always more damaging both in-state and nationally than is losing to OSU.
2) We always play MSU before playing OSU (duh!). If we played OSU first, the relative importance of the two games would change. Remember that OSU wasn't always our season-ending game and big rival---Minnesota was, and before that Chicago. OSU didn't become a major rival for us (at least in our minds) until: a) they moved to the last game in 1935, and b) Woody Hayes showed up in 1951. So, one reason OSU is perceived as more important than MSU is because of the scheduling order of the games.
3) MSU joining the conference in 1953 was bad overall for Michigan (just ask Fritz Crisler), though some positives (Bo) came from it. If MSU had remained independent or joined the MAC, their successes would've been much longer in coming. We would have likely been more consistently successful during the 50's and 60's. Conference membership gives them an amount of regional credibility, despite their multiple probations, self-inflicted destructions, etc. We now have to avoid losing to them every year in order to maintain our historical superiority.
Thus, (please read this carefully) not losing to MSU is more important to me as a Michigan resident, than is beating OSU.
1) Fair enough. It's not necessary here. Profanity shouldn't be that rampant of a problem.
2) More important than Ohio State? Fair enough then.
I wouldn't root for ohio state if they played the nazis. you know what, that ought to be on a shirt.
What is good for the conference, is good for each of the teams. The Big Ten teams winning OOC games is good for the conference as a whole, and thus good for Michigan. That is why I root for the conference teams.
Additionally, I get the feeling that many of the very anti-rivals live in Big Ten territory, and thus get inundated with the teams from the conference. Live in ACC, SEC, Big East or PAC Ten territory for a few years (particularly before all of the Big Ten games were televised somewhere on the cable) you start missing those seeing the games from the Midwest. A few years ago I was really tired of only having Duke, UNC, NC State, UVa and Clemson on TV all of the time.
In this weekend's game, I am hoping that OSU loses late in the game in a very close game. That way the Big 10 still kind of looks good, but OSU still loses. And I always root against MSU, even against OSU. Having to deal with State fans after they win is horrible. State is the only team that I will ever want OSU to win against. That said, I still dislike OSU much more than MSU, I just don't have to deal with as many OSU fans.