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is going on with this world !?!
I hate youtube. Why would they do this to us!
To that guy who brought Thorin to the attention of those shit bird lawyerin bastards, and the lawyerin bastards, and YouTube:
That kid has to be 15 or 16 years old now. Someone needs to find him for a Where Are The Now? piece.
Goddamnit. This was what got me through the off season. Why? Let people enjoy the old games.
That sucks. Thorin posted several great videos and went out his way to post several OSU full games from this past fall. Heck, I even subscribed to his content. I hope he had back ups of his content and didn't lose anything permanently. Not sure if he'll read this thread but thanks for being fair and objective in the content you posted.
What a bunch of poop.
WolverineHistorian, MGoVideo and WolverineDevotee have all lost their content
It was curtains for free YouTube the minute Google bought it and has been in the dumpster since. Now it is a glorified Netflix with ads on every video, copyright nazis going after people making no money off of videos and douches like movieclips making people pay to watch movies.
Paid to watch movies, you say?
Be right back
It was purchased in 2006, it's still free, and if you want to pirate the game videos, you still can.
I do'nt think it's an anyone's best interest to take down fan videos and stuff because I feel it spurs interest, but this has nothing to do with Google.
Google owns YouTube, so it has everything to do with the parent company.
If YouTube were still a start-up, they would actually care about pissing off users, but since they are owned and backed by Google, their users are like 99% of the Internet, so who cares if they piss off anyone.
BTW, I'll refrain from anything political here.
If YouTube was still a startup they would have no resources to fight copyright claims, and would have to pull videos even more often than they do now. As it is, Google has used its clout to get some copyright holders to allow videos to stay up in exchange for a percentage of ad revenues. This DOES NOT happen if YouTube is still a small company.
Also remember that before Google bought YouTube there was very little copyrighted content on it. Back in those days it was still serving its original purpose, which was essentially a dump for home videos and the like.
You are completely wrong. There was tons of movies and the like all over youtube before google bought it.
Sell it's sole to the people who pay them. Guess who that is? Me, you? Nope, it's the advertisers. For example, the copyright holders.
I was going to ask if I should be nervous for my own sake but 60% of my account is currently blocked anyway so it's not like it would be as big a loss if it happened 2 months ago.
I went to go watch the 2002 Washington game the other day and that's what I figured when I couldn't find it. Fucking youtube nazis.
Guh. When will people learn that free advertising on Youtube is GOOD for your brand?
This is really terrible news. Can't have nothin'. So sick of this, you guys.
RIP MGoVideo! You'll be missed!!
This is very disappointing
Why would you delete those other than because you can? Were they making a lot of money off of 1992 Michigan - Indiana highlights?
Everyone on Mgoblog should send an angry email to youtube. It's war!
Wouldn't do shit!!
This is really sad. The worst part about this is a lot of the videos he uploaded were only uploaded by him, so now so many great videos are lost. This is fucking horrible.
God damnit, I am now realizing that pretty much all of the michigan videos I watched on youtube over the past few years were uploaded by him. This is a huge loss.
Send in the mgotanks and mgoinfantry!
...and what a valuable resource we've lost because of that. Terrible news. Hopefully, MGoVideo is able to exist again somewhere. Immediate reaction, of course....
Or will a clone pop up to take their place? Seems like the niche is there.
Since Google owns YouTube, they will make sure to squash any competitors in their SERP's. In a way, though, it will be better if there is a smaller place that people only find on purpose instead of by accident.
Are the ESPN/ABC games content of Disney or somebody else?
Disney is the parent company.
Damn!! There goes the "man" keeping us down!
This royally blows. I loved watching games that I could never see live. Thorn, you are the man, maybe you can upload vids to dailymotion or something, I watch all of my premier league highlights on dailymotion. YouTube sucks balls, and like someone else said, the douchbag who reported you needs to die a terrible death, there was no reason to take those vids off the web and into the memory hole.
This can't be that surprising... Copyrighted content is copyrighted content. Sure, it was great to have all that stuff up, and I certainly watched more than my fair share of videos on these accounts.
But really. We all knew this would probably happen at some point.
But really, who the fuck is making money off of any of that content. Copyright or not it is pretty petty.
What a joke! So much for free media.
Guys, torrents. Download and seed. Streaming on demand with YouTube was fun while it lasted, but that was really just the path of least resistance.
I just wanna go see the final kick of the 02 Washington game, or highlights of 05 MSU, or the 97 rose bowl highlights. I dont want all whole hardrive full of videos just to watch the cool 30 seconds of each game.
There's software to chop music and/or videos as you please. It takes an extra step, but if you want your custom product, it's what you pay.
Those are Wolverine Historian videos, not MGoVideo.
Is there a site like Daily Motion which could be used?
Blip.tv is another site that can be used to host videos if I'm not mistaken
I've tried Daily Motion and blip.tv and they both deleted games I uploaded almost immediately. tudou.com (the Chinese youtube) too.
Wow...that's really rough for all of us. I'm not sure there's any reason to go to youtube now. I guess I need to go back to that antique store and buy that box of VHS tapes of 1990s games. Might be the only way I can watch them now.
I have lurked for a few years and just finally registered to say how much this ruined my week. I have been content to read the great posts on the main page as I typically share the same opinions and don't have anything insightful to add with any post I might make. Torrenting will have to suffice, but I LIVED on mgovideo, especially this BB season. I have relived this season no less than 10 times this april alone.
It was fun while it lasted and I am sad to see it go.
Ditto. I've rewatched the last 4 minutes and overtime if the Kansas game probably 8 times
Oh I know. I wore out the last four games. I was glad I got on in time to watch the SDSU and VCU games before they got taken down since I was travelling to Arizona. Following them this season was one of the most enjoyable seasons of sports teams I follow in my life. (I'm 31)
If I ever become KING OF THE INTERNET like I've planned, I will make them PAY!
Do you have the purple gloves yet?
We do not recognize false monarchs.
Thanks a lot bin laden.
I will always love you Thorin
Megafrown is still up!
Strike one was mgoblue highlights of a 2011-2012 basketball game against Northwestern, strike two an old interview with Mattison and the final blow, yes of course, the infamous Denard Illinois week interview.
This sucks. Are you still tracking torrents?
Yeah, the tracker is still up: http://mgovideo.com/tracker.php
Okay good - didn't see the tracker link on the front page. I'm a dedicated seeder :)
Is there really someone from the Big Ten Conference who's job it is to search the internet and find copyrighted videos? C'mon man! Ugh.
...and FUCK those two patches of hair on the "east" and "west" sides of his head.
Screw them. We'll make our own YouTube, with blackjack and hookers!
What a bunch of crap. I hate this mentality. Movies, I get. If I want to watch one, I can usually rent it somewhere. With sporting events, once they're over, unless you have recorded it yourself, there is no resource for watching old games other than the Internet. So yeah, they're copyrighted and everything, but if the "owner" company never makes use of the resources, someone should. Fuck, at least create a paid-membership site where I can stream everything if you absolutely feel the need to squeeze every last drop of profit out of these things.
If you put thr Return of the King on youtube, it's going to get taken down but there's a ton of places to find it: itunes, amazon, in stores, etc.
These Michigan videos basically just mean that no one will ever seen those games again. Where else will you ever see non-classic Michigan games? If I was interested to see highlights of Michigan's 49-3 drubbing of MSU back in '03(?), where do I find it? Answer: I won't. It is essentially gone forever, and for what reason? Because a copyright holder didn't like it so he/she/they would rather just sit on it and let no one watch it? Ok guy, thanks.
WHAT'S EVEN MORE INCREDIBLE IS HE IS TELLING US FROM HIS FUTURE SELF!!!
I kind of anticipated this. Fortunately, there are some easy workarounds going forward.
Everyone needs to save everything that they upload. At the end of the academic calendar year, a consolidated torrent with everything that has been uploaded can be created. Everything for that season is contained within that torrent. That way multiple people have copies of the archive.
While they can take down torrents/accounts ad infinitum, the URL on MGoVideo.com will never change, since the embed to where the video is stored on YouTube can easily be altered.
Anyone know contact emails for Wolverine Devotee and Wolverine Historian? Especially for the older material, I'd like to begin consolidating and taking account of what source material we do have.
Shoot me an email if you're out there - karpodiem at gmail dot com.
I LOVE and greatly appreciate your work, Thorin. This sucks hard. I loved mgovideo
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! This sucks. Loved all the uploads you guys did now I will miss them..:(
What's the ETA of the new video your making? I'm looking forward to it.
Oops, there goes all of Mello's source video. ;-)
Last straw. Somebody litigate this shit.
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I'm watching it now but who knows when it might go down again?
Wow, a whole lot of misplaced anger in this thread. This has nothing to do with YouTube/Google and everything to do with this country's insane copyright laws.
I love YouTube and I will continue to upload there.
I'm no lawyer, but I think this is one of the few rational posts on this thread.
The law of the land is pretty clear, even if we don't like it. To the poster above who said, "Litigate!" I ask, "Litigate what?"
Even if we feel differently, by law we don't own these broadcasts. In fact there is a disclaimer at the end of every one of them affirming that we don't.
Another unfortunate offshoot of these laws is that it is incumbent on a person or company to protect their intellectual property. If they don't, it becomes part of the public domain. If a content owner could be shown to have known about this and not acted, they could lose their rights to profit from their work.
An interesting counter-example is HBO-Go. Right now on HBO-Go, if you're a subscriber, you can watch tons and tons and tons of content. It isn't free, but there's a lot there that HBO is making available.
What we need is B1G, ESPN/ABC, Michigan and others to get organized and host all this content online. If it seems like that would be expensive, well, that's the point... If there isn't money it it, then a company won't do it. For those of you complaining about the ads on the YouTube pages, how do you think Google/YouTube are making money if not from ads? Without money, the services go away. Even if cloud storage is cheap and efficient, somebody's got to pay for it.
A happy medium would be if content owners could somehow see a small benefit from something like Thorin's work and allow the postings to stand on YouTube as long as they are only used for non-commercial purposes. But copyright law and copyright lawyers make this hard to implement practically.
That's my point if I wanna listen to a song I can still listen to it on YouTube without payn for it. But for cfb games there is no other way to watch them. I'm kinda surprised there's actually many Super Bowls uploaded in full that r still up ud think the nfl would go after them first
You can listen to it only on the artists channel, which has compensation tied through ads. You actually argued against yourself
They were fully aware they were flaunting the law, proudly bragging even about it. Their actions absolutely had a price point that weakened the BTN when ppl could download Sunday instead of watching the replay Tuesday
This is fuckn bullshit u know we criticize china and Iran for blocking certain sites. Wr censoring the Internet more than they do!! FUCK YOUTUBE!!
Copyright protection = censorship?
It's fucked up I can't even watch the games by paying for it
hoping there won't come a day where i look back at youtube like i look back at party poker and the sportsbetting heyday, but i assume this is the first step towards that..
My videos of Michigan replays r mostly still up and I still have a few full games up guess it's only a matter of time FUCK YOUTUBE!!
One of my favorite things to do is rewatch old games. I appreciate all your work, along with wolverine historian.
Definitely.. plus it's necessary material in order to put together hype videos, etc.
Making a copyright claim like the Big Ten Conference did with the Denard video is so petty and ridiculous. These vids are a free form of advertisement for the school, the conference, and the network that shows the games. The big ten will never show 99% of these games on their network, but now noone ever gets to see these games. Just stupid and it benifits noone at all to do this. Thank you Wolverine Historian and Thorin for all your work, hopefully we can get this back up and running by football season.
All policies have to be all or nothing. They can't have a caveat of "except if the game may have value some day"
IANAL but isn't copyright supposed to have an expiration date?
Yeah, it's like 70 years if it's not extended.