only if they would travel to Ann Arbor. Enough of the neutral/home field BS. Get them up here for once.
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
only if they would travel to Ann Arbor. Enough of the neutral/home field BS. Get them up here for once.
posted recently that the SEC doesn't play north of Nashville...like EVER. Would be a tough pull but I'd love to see it.
I wasn't thinking about KY - it wasn't my assertion at least. thanks for pointing it out!
I also saw someone say it was North of the Mason-Dixon line which would fall into your comment:
Home and home not to long ago.
I change it to HARDLY EVER.
That's what I get for quoting someone else. :P
Isn't LSU going to Wisconsin (not in Madison but neutral site)?
Are playing in Green Bay in 2016. I guess they were each willing to play a neutral site game in a location where the other was likely to have a big advantage but not willing to just play a home and home.
get that. What is the appeal of dropping 8,000 - 21,000 seats by moving to these 'neutral sites'?
Camp Randall: 80,321
Lambeau Field: 72,928
Tiger Stadium: 92,542
NRG Stadium: 71,500
LSU at Camp Randall would be INSANE. Saw Wisky play SDSU there and it was amazing.
There may be less seating, but at Lambeau you can charge more.
I think the SEC rarely plays above the Canadian border. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
Pretty sure the Volunteers did a home and home with ND not that long ago.
Was in AA in '06
Scared Secessionists, if you ask me!
A couple of years ago Bama did a home and away with Penn State.
I'm not sure what river would serve as the dividing line, but State College is definitely not in the south.
When they do come up here they want our best players to sit out.
when i was in law school the contant buzz was a constant lunch favorite
Not unless we get a home and home.
would (I assume) be part of the negotiation process. Guessing Alabama wants a one-and-done deal, but maybe we can squeeze the home and home out of them.
Would be fun to watch but I don't see them giving up the home field revenue. Would be sweet if it happened though!
Maybe they could shift Utah to 2016 and slot in a trip to Alabama for 2015...interesting to think about!
We would have to reschedule Oregon St or UNLV to match Bama's schedule.
First of all, there's no way we give up the revenue associated with a home game, Mr. Brandon has made it clear we need seven home games and that's that. Second, rescheduling for next year is almost impossible, we'd have to write Utah a big check, making it not really feasible, and then they'd have to scramble and would probably wind up with an FCS opponent. Not going to happen. Woud love to see it, though.
the revenue would be hard to pass up - which is why the idea of moving the Utes to 2016 seems more attractive - but maybe costly.
Just spitballing. Would love to see Saban North of the Mason-Dixon line again (assumes home-and-home).
Well, they did schedule us a few years ago....
I like the idea of playing top competition every year as much as anyone, but Alabama again? Hell no man. Provided the staff makes it through 2014 in a happy state, 2015 needs to be a return to glory type year, and starting off with Alabama isn't the way to make that happen.
And at Utah isn't exactly a creampuff game.
my verbiage might have been slightly off. I don't consider a Pac-10 Utah a creampuff. My bad. UNLV was considered my creampuff game - and then I said OR Utah. Maybe need a comma or something in there to break it up.
They did play at PSU once, but we don't have an open date. The only way that we could play a 13th game is if it was at Hawaii. I also don't think that we should schedule them until we know for sure that Michigan is back.
the way schedules get planned out YEARS in advance, it's kinda hard to know if Michigan is "back" or will be in a future year. I'm basing my (albeit relatively uninformed) hope that we are back based on the assertions from this board and other places that UM will be "loaded" in 2015.
We do have a BYE week as well. Maybe that's an idea?
Just as a general note, Nick Saban talked at length after the cancellation of the MSU series about how his vision was to have the "Power 5" conferences play each other in increasing frequency. What he seems to fail to realize, however, is that more than likely this will mean a lot of *gulp* real road games for Alabama that aren't in the southeastern United States necessarily. He expressed some concern about the lack of willingness by State, for example, to play a neutral site game. If he thought OOC scheduling was a little tough now, wait until a lot of power conference schools share State's sentiment.
Wow. Can't believe I just said that.
Thanks for the info - hadn't read that.
State won't play a neutral site game? Did they inquire about doing it on Saturn?
if you would actually have to "pay them off". You may be able to incentivize them in other ways - shift to 2016, and we'll give you another home game in 2019. Or shift to 2016, and we'll PAY you to come to AA for an OOC game. I think you can be creative and not have to "pay off" some of these teams.
And I agree, that would certainly make 2016 look better at home!
is why I love MGoBlog! Instant research and factual information to back up a hypothesis! :)
I am fairly certain that Michigan moves that date they are going to have to pay them. Especially this late, it would not be easy for Utah to fill that date.
just a list from the power conferences of teams that have an open date in 2015. Not sure how tough it would really be for Utah to schedule with a different team as this list is just the "Power 5 Conferences"
are in the Pac-12 so I doubt they would be interested in adding Utah to the schedule if they aren't scheduled to play them during conference play.
Are UCF and UConn going to be in one of the 5 power conferences in 2016? Those 5 conferences are Pac-12, Big 12, Big Ten, ACC and SEC, right?
That have to find a school that has an open date on the same weekend. Most of those names do not. Then they have to find someone to agree to play a road game in Utah. I think you are woefully underestimating the challenge for Utah to reschedule a game next season. It's not just a game, either. It's their marquee OOC game, probably for quite a few years.
As I said above, Alabama is busy when we're to play Utah anyway.
such a negative outlook? 2015 is supposed to be the year that everything lines up for a great UM Football team - why not test that theory against the best?
Everyone complains about our OOC schedules seemingly every year. If we can get a home-and-home out of Alabama, that certainly brightens up the schedule - and the resume' come bowl season.
This is so Michigan fan it hurts. "Next year" is the year guys, I promise. While I do agree we may have a chance at being competitive in the B1G in 2015 with Ohio and Sparty at home, I still doubt we'll be anything near the national power we'd need to be to topple Saban.
You want to be the best, you play the best. All signs to a talented, experienced team in 2015. My point is, back up the rhetoric on the field. Most people believe 2015 will be special - let's put that to the test against the best.
Yes, you may not win - but the "best" shot at Saban appears to be in 2015.
I respectfully will never believe a team's best shot at Saban is in a year they are breaking in a first year starting QB, big-time recruit or not.
"Nextyearisouryear-itus" around herepretty much since.......well, the new millenium. I know when we will contend in the B1G, and nationally. It will be about the time we quit thinking that "next year is going to be really good because we don't play ____ " , OR, "We're winning it all next year because we get this team at home"
Good teams (speaking as fanbases) don't think that way, but we (as a fanbase) do........And ironically, not very good at the moment
Let the big boys like Bama and USC come to the big house for once. Show them what home field advantage is all about.
If it was open, absolutely. But, it is not and I like the idea of following through with the commitments already in place. So, no.
Why don't they reschedule Sparty?
I think that's not allowed because I'm sure some teams have tried to schedule conference games against teams in the conference that they don't play such as Wisconsin and schedule them as non conference
IDK if I want to be playing bama in the first year with a completely new staff.
(1) Don't know.
FUck, it, sign a home and home. Worst that can happen is two repeats of Dallas in a way better place than Dallas.
No. Only way I would play bama in 2015 is if I can guarantee hoke would be a HC. I 2014 turns into a disaster Hokes out. I don't think anyone wants to play Alabama again with a first year coach where it's guaranteed some players will transfer. Do we really want to see another 45-14 game again
I had the exact same thoughts. if it is a great coaching hire however, with the talent on that team it might not go as bad as expected.
As people noted, if Alabama was willing to come up North then by all means schedule them. But I see 0% gain in doing a one-off where UM has to go to Alabama and play an amped-up Crimson Tide team without a return game scheduled.
I dont know how Utah will be in 2015 but this years game vs. Utah I think is gonna be alot harder game and I think Utah has a chance to be a 8 or 9 win team. Their QB coming back if fully healthy is one of the best dual threat QBS in college. He has great pro potential also and could be a 1st rd pick depending how his year goes. So at least this year Michigan has 2 good Non-conference foes to play.... if i aint wrong isnt one of the games vs Utah a Friday or Thursday night game or am I thinking of some other teams?
I agree with you on Utah this year, they beat Stanford last year, we can't look past them.
Watched that USC game last year, they have some mean boys on both of their lines. It will definitely not be the cupcake game everyone thinks.
what is going on with my points I was at 100 and now they keep going down and down. complete bs.... i have seen people get points for the stupidest shit on here that is not funny at all unless you are a dork. So what are the points about? Someone who knows what he is talking about or putting up stuff about a topic with the office space pics and saying lol and you get upvoted for that stupid shi*? can u see who downvotes you so you can go downvote their stupid comments
This is a very good blog and has good discussions but there are many who are in their own buddy system. They all are in one big circle jerk and stroke one another each day. It's sad but what can you do? They have all the points already and just keep right on stroking for more.
Never disagree with said circle jerks either. They'll pounce on you like you stole something.
Hijacking threads to whine about getting negged is a pretty good way of getting more negs. If you actually bother to contribute to the discourse you'll probably see your points increase. Also, I didn't neg you, just giving you my 2 cents.
to have incurred the wrath of an MGoBlogger or two. Some people will not like what you have to say, and then go search out everything you've posted and downvote you.
When hovering around 100 - it's not the best time to make waves.
I too grow tired of 'neutral site' games in which a northern team travels 2000+ miles and the southern team travels less than 500. Come up here you chickens. Go play in Autzen or the Shoe or Camp Randall
Someone may have mentioned this already, but who exactly is expecting 2015 to be "a special year for Michigan football?" I, for one, don't expect a special year in 2015 when we are breaking in a new QB, probably a new top WR, and a new LB corp?
I hope the OP realizes that replacing virtually a 3rd year starter and 3000 yard passer (who accomplished that behind the worst OL I've ever seen) is not going to be so easy.
We happen to be stacked at linebacker. Morgan is easily replaced by Bolden or James Ross if he goes back to weak side, which he can because of Royce Jenkins emergence. We are stacked at receiver also. I don't think Funchess will have a good enough year to go pro but hope he has that year regardless. Quarterback is the only question mark in 2015. Morris or Speight will be ready to go by that time though. Don forget about Bellomy.
and thanks for the support.
There are quite a few forum posts and main page articles which point to 2015 as being a potentially great year for UM. You should be able to find support for my OP pretty readily.
I agree replacing Gardner will be difficult, but Morris was a 5*, the O-Line will be huge, experienced, and have depth, and the defense has the capacity to be dominant (really only losing JMFR, Morgan, and Clark).
Let me voice this: I do think 2015 could potentiallly be a great season. I am hesitant to say that, because I really thought the 2013 edition of Michigan football was talented enough to make a Rose Bowl run.
Lastly, I sat as a senior in college in August of 2012 and mapped out the 2014 roster. I thought it had the potential to be a 1997-like defense and above average offense. Now, after 2013, I'm just hoping we can win a bowl game this year.
I don't know about offense but I think we could have an elite 1997/2006 defense.
But hey that's what a blog is for. Stacked at WR implies that we have another WR that can get open and catch a pass outside of Devin Funchess, and right now we don't have that. Jehu Chesson's lone highlight in a Michigan uniform is of him blocking a ND defender.
We have no idea what Darboh will do. The 2013 WR group had MAC level offers. The 2014 group appears to be better, but we won't know until the lights come on in the fall. If Funchess returns for his senior season, it's probably a bad thing for the 2014 Michigan Wolverines.
There's no reason he shouldn't amass 70 catches and 1000 yards. With those numbers and his size, the Detroit Lions will pick him at #10 whether it's a need or not.
Personally I hope to see some four and five wide sets this year as I wish we had done last year at times. I'll bet the Nuss will show us this in 2014.
2012 guys in their 4th year, 2013 in 3rd year. Gardner will be tough to lose, but the rest of the O would return.
Losing JMFR, Morgan, Taylor, Clark and Beyer would hurt, but the D will have a lot of upper class talent as well.
If Shane gets some decent snaps this year, I like the look of 2015.
No...do not want Bama. There's already an interesting OOC schedule.
before we schedule any more of these do-over games.
Jeff Smoker will smoke anything
Than make it happen. You can't be the best if your not taking on the best and I think the PR would all be good if we did this win or lose.
get those b-holes up to Michigan and I think we should. 2015 is the year everyone is saying we are ready for that push to National contender, would be fun to see.
We're losing Ryan, Morgan, Clark, and Beyer on defense and only Gardner and Funchess possibly on offense. That's pretty good. I also think we can be a good team this year if we can just get a little more on offense.
Man let's do this and definitely get them to our stadium the next year. I am tired of the multi-cupcake schedules we've gotten accustomed to and it is not helping with the toughness we so badly need to re- instill at Michigan. Really don't want to see UCONN, UMASS, Dayton, and all these smaller schools on our schedule ever again. I can handle one per season but not more than that. We used to joke about Notre Dame doing this all the time when we were scheduling the big boys in the late 80's and early 90's. Now look at us. Bring on Bama, Florida, Florida State, UCLA, Oregon, etc. and let's "return to glory" .
Even though we will have talent, experience, depth, the most important part of any great team is the ability of its head coach, and ours is still in the "yet-to-be-determined" status. If this question is answered favorably this season, then reason no. 2 becomes instantly and abundantly clear. With all of the aforementioned positives you listed above, it then stands to reason that we would not only be in the hunt, but more likely the favorites to win the BIG and in line for far more favorable possibilities come post season. With such being the case, it would be an illogical move by our AD to schedule a more-than-probable loss given the venue of the contest. We would simply lose far more than a football game under such circumstances. ^With the four team play-off and the computer now being instrumental in who plays the final game of the season, gone are the days where the Bear said, "If you are going to lose a game, do it early." At the time he said it, it was true. Your performances after an early season toe stub were often lost to memory if you steamrolled the remainder of your competition because both the coaches and honest writers normally voted for the team they actually thought the best at season's end, despite the early miscue. Under the current system, one loss would make it almost impossible to be a player in the final poll.
in the new playoff system with a possible loss @ Alabama. I say no thanks!
As long as we could get them up into our neck of the woods for a game too (which I know they'd be willing to do, considering they went to play at PSU a few years back), I'm all for it.
To hell with neutral sites. Home and homes are where it's at.
I'm alright. I have a friend who went to Alabama instead of Michigan, and he has already had enough Alabama over Michigan glory.
Because we just had two fifth year NFL tackles, a stable of 2nd year 4-5 stars, and proceeded to have without question, the most underachieving line in America a a sieve of a defense. We have plenty of defensive talent and it seems as though a non-blitzing sack, a pass breakup, or an interception is a dream come true. A lot of us will not be optimistic again about talent until these coaches show that they can do something with it.
Yes, play in Tuscaloosa in the 2015 season (since we will get OSU and MSU at home that season), and in Ann Arbor in 2016 (when we have our B1G biggest rivals on the road again).
Yeah, except when we play teams like Akron and App. State, it tends to not go so well all the time...