Off-season Michigan Over/Under
Football
1. (8.5) Regular Season Wins for Michigan Football
2. (1,000) Yards Rushing or Receiving by any player
3. (1.5) wins in rivalry games (@ND, @MSU, @OSU)
Basketball
1. Nik Stauskas' draft spot compared to Gary Harris
2. Glenn Robinson III's draft spot compared to Adreian Payne
3. (8.5-seed) in 2015 NCAA Tournament
*Over = better / Under = worse*
Football:
Under (8 wins)
Over (we've had one four years in a row, no reason to stop now)
Under (sigh)
Hoops: over, under, over
How freaking depressing is it that Michigan has had ONE season in the last six that has had less than 5 losses?
January 12th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
No reason to worry anymore, we are in good hands
January 12th, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
sorry I posted the wrong link
This is off topic but since I can't post anything. Tight End HAle Hentges not sure if the spelling of the last name is right but he committed to that cheating school Bama. 8pm eastern time. Qi hate all these top recruits going to Bama that Michigan has been in on. Would rather have them go to Boise State or someother school besides the hated ones.
Cmong maaan
probably a 5 seed I'd say. A lot of stuff would have to go wrong for us to be a 9 seed. That's where we were in Beilein's second year.
But I think your expectations are WAY too high.
I think we're the 3rd or 4th best team in the league, which IS better than a 9-seed. Ohio State was a 6-seed last year. But remember Iowa and Nebraska were BOTH 11-seeds.
I don't think it's far-fetched to put the O/U at 8.5 for this team. I didn't do it because that is what I think it is, I did it because that is the different between the top half of the bracket and the bottom half. That was literally all the thought I put into it.
That said, I'm not confident we have one proven player for the role he's stepping into. And yes, you could say that last year. But I liked Stauskas' chances of becoming a certified #1 option more than I like LeVert. That's not a diss, that's just my opinion at this point. I think LeVert is a great #2, in the way THJ was...but I think THJ would've struggled being the leading man without some bonafide help.
Even if Irvin does, Irvin will have to go from a "chucker" to LeVert's level last year that can lead the team when the #1 isn't on his game. I liked the chances of LeVert becoming that player last year more than I like Irvin doing that this year.
We have ZERO proven post game. Last year we had 2 guys and Mitch McGary. So many of you all are devaluing the play of Morgan and Horford (until midseason).
I love Coach B, he's the best coach in the country IMO, but he's not a miracle worker. Morgan's role literally carried our team to an Elite 8 last year. 2 years ago he and Horford kept us at the top until McGary went crazy.
I think this team is good, very good...but Iowa and Nebraska were solid. UK went to the National Championship game and they were an 8-seed from a weak SEC.
So being a 5 means you're a GREAT basketball team. It also means you're going to be upset in the first round.
Over (10 wins)
Under (two 500-yard rushers, 800-yard receiver)
Over (Win, Loss, Win)
Over (NJAS vs. JAS)
Under
Over
b-ball = over.
...what makes you think this? New OC? Loss of Lewan/Schofield? Schedule?
Just curious.
...that was my next guess anyway.
In all seriousness, for a team that returns everyone, has a better OC who's committed to using the talent to the best of its ability and not forcing a complex system on with no identity or direction, a full off-season, and highly-touted youth that should get experience this year...I don't see us being worse.
I refuse to assume we're going to be better just because we're Michigan, but I think "crash and burn" is Rich Rod in year 1...or even year 2.
...but he's still drunk, so nevermind all of that.
Lets not forget everyone on defense comes back.
If they're not one of the best of the B1G, I'll be disappointed.
I'm trying not to put expectations on this upcoming team (I've already said next year we need to win the B1G and be in the battle for a playoff spot)...but with this defense, I think we may have a shot to surprise some folks - even our own fans.
Nonetheless, they should be no worse than last year. But fingers crossed, they'll be dominant and we'll get one of "those games" from Devin and the offense and we'll win a few games many don't think we have a shot in right now.
Mattison is a good coach and in less worried him getting job done.
I just don't see any way this team is battling for a playoff spot this season. Considering where they'll start the season ranked, they'll have to run the slate leading up to Ohio State just to be in the conversation. Depending how MSU does this season, they could start to enter the conversation if they beat an undefeated MSU team, but they'd still be very far on the outside looking in.
Next year...
I don't expect them to come anywhere close this year. If they improve every week and go 9-3 with an outside shot at the B1G Championship game I'll jump for joy.
Next year I expect them to win the B1G and contend for a playoff spot.
Our schedule is pretty soft aside from the rival games. Miami (NTM), ASU, Utah, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, PSU, and Indiana is much easier than last year.
After the way they struggled on the road last season, there's no way you can overlook any road game this season, be it Rutgers or anyone else.
I mean, Jesus, did we forget that we almost lost to UConn of all people on the road last season? UCONN!!!
We also played Nebraska and Iowa last year as well which are better than any of the teams we play this year outside of the rivals. We also get PSU at home at night vs. at them at night and I'd much rather play in Piscataway than State College.
Playing at Northwestern is more of a neutral field game than a road game. It will be the same thing with Rutgers. There are a lot more passionate Michigan football fans in the NYC area than passionate Rutgers fans.
...will be a VERY tough game for us.
Yes, Indiana.
IMO, they're the new Northwestern.
while scheme is important, at some point there are only so many ways to run scoop/scrape/trap/cut/pass blocks and it comes down to mano-a-mano. we had two pro tackles on our O-line last year and we couldn't get it done on a painfully regular basis. so we all hope nus does great stuff and our O-line comes light years forward from where it was, but i wouldn't bet the mortgage on it just yet. without an O-line it would be hard to predict much sustained success against good teams.
edit: this was supposed to be a reply to yost's post #`13. don't know why it posted down here.
My soph/junior year of HS, I transfered and went from a blocking system I understood to a zone blocking scheme that I didn't get right away. Despite being faster and stronger than the senior who ended up starting, I wasn't as good because I didn't know who to block and when I figured it out I was a step behind. I'm sure Michigan's O line are much quicker to pick things up than I was, but the descriptions on MGOBLOG of Borges trying 17 different things during the season had to have made their minds pop.
and i played a boatload of football, and for a number of different OC's. i am sympathetic to that micro-second of hesitation if you're uncertain of your line calls. it's just that we couldn't get it done repeatedly on the most basic of bread and butter plays that were nothing fancy, simple iso's, powers, and the like. forget 2nd level blocking, we weren't getting it done on the first level.
How many times did we run into 8 or 9 men in the box. We didn't have enough blockers to successfully run those plays yet our brilliant(?) OC continued to try to run it. When you're set up for failure you usually do and that was the case. He later tried to run a fake quick screen hand off that worked for a week and a half, but never had anything to go to after they started shutting it down. There should have been a counter play to go to after the D started stopping it, but I don't recall Borges ever setting up plays just running the same plays out of different formations.
and, for what?
Football
1. Over (10 wins)
2. Over (Funchess)
3. Over (ND, one of MSU or Ohio)
Basketball
1. Over
2. Under
3. Over
Football
1. Over [9.]
2. Under [But a lot of guys with solid numbers.]
3. Over [Not sure why or how...but for my sanity, it has to be over.]
Basketball
1. Over [versatility and recent hype gets Stauskas the nod over Harris who measured small at the combine.]
2. Over [potential over a player who feels "maxed out" even though Payne gets drafted by the Spurs or something and has a solid career.]
3. Under [9 - I think the expectations for this team are too high. It's going to be too easy to key in on LeVert who I think is a great #2, but not a leading role in the way THJ was...so it's not a diss. Post game worries me after watching us get destroyed even with J-Mo. Irvin is a year away. An improved Walton + Spike at PG will be the reason we win 20 games. I see us anywhere from a 7 to a 10. I'm going with 9 for now. With such a young team, we should be peaking late...easy pick for an upset of a 1 or 2 seed.]
Under
Over
Over
Over
Over
Football
1 - over (9 wins)
2- under
3- under (one rivalry win)
Hoops
1 - over
2 - under
3- over (7 seed)
Over, I got them for 9
Over, Funchess has 1000 in him
Under, just 1 :(
Bball
Over, Nik is amazing
Under, I don't know , I really like Paynes game.
Over
Over, under, over, over, over, over.
it would be nice if you are correct. could turn out that way. prove all of us nay-sayers wrong.
The GR3 one was just homerism and I waivered on the basketball seed, but I do think we're due for a good year on the football field.
My thoughts on basketball have yet to congeal, but I suppose for football....
1) There's a lot about the changes on both sides of the ball and the added experience that make me believe the over is likely here.
2) Over as I think the scheme changes, if they are taking root as it seems, make that a likely event as well.
3) Conservatively, I would take the under here right now because available data (which is based on last year's data and some guesswork) would dictate that. I do hope I am wrong here of course.
Football
1. Under
2. Under
3. Under
Basketball
1. Over
2. Over
3. Over
Football is a tough call, but I'll go with under 8.5 wins. I realistically expect 8 wins, but am hopeful for 9. Based on the fact that they will likely use 3 backs (Green, Smith, & Hayes on 3rd down) I don't see any of them rushing for over 1,000 yards. Funchess could go for over 1,000 yards, but I'll also assume under because I think they will try to run to ball more this year and spread the ball around to all the recievers. He'll get a ton of TDs in the redzone, but I doubt he'll get 1,000 yards. They will beat ND, lose to OSU, and MSU is a toss-up. Oh heck, I'll take over on that one with a win over MSU. How about a top 20 defense though? I'll take the under for that!