Scouting Report: Da'Shawn Hand

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February 16th, 2013 at 11:23 AM
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Magnus
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Scouting Report: Da'Shawn Hand

As I go through the positions for scouting reports each week, I reached defensive end . . . and I figured I would start off the DE position with everyone's favorite recruit, Da'Shawn Hand.  Since Michigan is in his top five, he's a legitimate player for Michigan fans to follow.  It's hard to imagine anyone beating him out for the #1 spot in 2014.  The kid is a beast, and he supposedly spent quite a bit of time playing nose guard because that's where his team needed him, so he's versatile and a team-first guy.

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/02/scouting-report-dashawn-hand....

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February 16th, 2013 at 11:31 AM | He will be blue (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 11:36 AM | Looks (Score:2)
LSA Aught One
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Looks like a new BKFinest/Raback. What sayeth The_Knowledge?

February 16th, 2013 at 11:43 AM | BK Finest'd (Score:0 Overrated)
February 16th, 2013 at 12:24 PM | ^^^ (Score:5 Normal)
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February 16th, 2013 at 1:10 PM | Boom (Score:1 Redundant)
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Raback'd.

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February 16th, 2013 at 11:33 AM | But is he any good? (Score:2)
Victor Hale II
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But is he any good?

February 16th, 2013 at 11:42 AM | better hope this kid can add (Score:-1 Offtopic)
February 16th, 2013 at 11:50 AM | I'm sure with a college (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm sure with a college strength and conditioning program, there's no way in hell that he can add weight.  He will probably be 245 lbs. forever and ever.

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February 16th, 2013 at 12:25 PM | SAM it is. (Score:2)
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SAM it is.

February 16th, 2013 at 12:30 PM | you think with another 45 lbs (Score:0 Trolling)
February 16th, 2013 at 12:51 PM | Those elite programs that (Score:5 Funny)
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Those elite programs that have offered him are concerned as well.

February 16th, 2013 at 1:05 PM | iPhone (Score:0 Trolling)
February 16th, 2013 at 1:42 PM | If the only "elite" teams (Score:2)
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If the only "elite" teams you're talking about are Alabama and, um, Alabama, then sure.  There are other elite programs around the country, like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC, etc. who don't recruit 35 guys per class.

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February 16th, 2013 at 2:51 PM | iPhone (Score:0 Trolling)
February 16th, 2013 at 2:55 PM | Did I say Michigan was an (Score:4 Normal)
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Did I say Michigan was an elite program?

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February 16th, 2013 at 3:40 PM | Yeah your previous post. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 4:44 PM | You mean this one? (Score:5 Normal)
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"If the only "elite" teams you're talking about are Alabama and, um, Alabama, then sure.  There are other elite programs around the country, like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC, etc. who don't recruit 35 guys per class."

Point out the word "Michigan" for me please...

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February 16th, 2013 at 9:51 PM | Um.. Did you mean Minny? Or (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 9:56 PM | He meant "um" as in (Score:4 Normal)
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He meant "um" as in "um.....what are you doing with your hands in your pants at a junior high football game."

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

February 16th, 2013 at 9:59 PM | The "um" was the word um, not (Score:3 Normal)
BigBlue02
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The "um" was the word um, not Michigan you idiot

February 16th, 2013 at 10:49 PM | Do they really let you fly planes? (Score:2)
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Um, don't land there, that's the football field.

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February 16th, 2013 at 2:54 PM | iPhone (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 2:58 PM | If you don't want Hand to (Score:3 Normal)
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If you don't want Hand to drag down our defensive line, then who is better in the 2014 class?  Michigan's defensive line recruiting in the past five years includes Frank Clark, Ondre Pipkins, and several guys who have yet to see the field (Strobel, Wormley, Henry, etc.).  I think it's too early to judge them.  If you're talking about the defensive line recruiting of the Rodriguez years, that's one thing...but that has very little to do with what's going on with current Michigan recruiting.

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February 16th, 2013 at 1:33 PM | 6'4", 245 lbs. is the size of (Score:2)
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6'4", 245 lbs. is the size of a linebacker?  What high school junior linebacker do you know of that is 6'4" and 245?  There aren't many.

Taylor Lewan was small for offensive tackle.  Craig Roh was small for a defensive end.  They're now about 310 and 280 lbs., respectively.

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February 16th, 2013 at 2:49 PM | Lewan was slightly a project. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 3:04 PM | The point went completely (Score:4 Normal)
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The point went completely over your head.

The point is those guys were small coming out of high school.  They're not now.

Damontre Moore was 227 lbs. coming out of high school.  Dion Jordan was 215 lbs.  Both are now projected to be first round picks at defensive end.  They have added 23 and 28 pounds, respectively.  If you add that much weight to Hand, you've got about a 270 lb. defensive end.  Where's the problem?

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February 16th, 2013 at 3:52 PM | iPhone (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 4:45 PM | It's really tough to (Score:3 Normal)
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It's really tough to double-team weakside ends, unless you run double tight formations or always help out with a back.  Not many guys command that kind of attention.

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February 16th, 2013 at 9:34 PM | iPhone (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 8:23 PM | Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. (Score:3 Normal)
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Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail... Fail. Might want to sit this one out DirtyD

February 16th, 2013 at 9:38 PM | iPhone (Score:0 Normal)
February 16th, 2013 at 10:04 PM | Except your opinion is not a (Score:1 Normal)
BigBlue02
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Except your opinion is not a good one. At all. You are basically telling us that everyone in America is wrong and you are correct. All of those colleges that offered are wrong because they are taking a flier on the best player in high school and you are right because you evaluate high school football regularly?

February 16th, 2013 at 10:19 PM | No I never said he wasnt good (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 16th, 2013 at 3:03 PM | Yes. (Score:1 Normal)
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A kid in my class in high school wrestled senior year at 215 and finished college as a DE around 255 and was able to run down Drew Stanton from behind in a sprint down the sideline. So yes, I do think DEs retain explosion while putting on 45 lbs.

February 16th, 2013 at 12:03 PM | Yeah, these kids hardly ever grow much. (Score:5 Normal)
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May you have a strong foundation
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February 16th, 2013 at 5:44 PM | Score: 6 Extremely Valuable (Score:1 Trolling)
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Love this picture.

February 16th, 2013 at 12:43 PM | Either you forgot to add /s (Score:4 Normal)
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Either you forgot to add /s or you haven't done your homework.

Looking at some of the top DE's coming out of high school the past 5 years:

2009 - Okafor - reported by scout as 6'5", 229, 4.67 40

2010 - Powell - reported by rivals as 6'4", 230, 4.53 40

2011 - Clowney - reported by scout as 6'6", 235, 4.6 40

2012 - Spence - reported by scout as 6'3", 240

Nkemdiche is the biggest of the bunch at reportedly 6'5", 260, 4.7 40

So if all we're talking about is measuables, Hand is right in line with top DE's across the board - and the guys on the list here have done just fine so far.

Okafor isn't the highest rated DE in the draft but could sneak into the 1st round.  Powell tore his ACL in the spring, otherwise might be in the draft. Clowney is being talked about as someone who should declare for the draft. Spence got some PT as a true freshman at the worst school ever. Nkemdiche probably got some money, not included in a Twitter pic.

February 16th, 2013 at 1:06 PM | This is good I did not know (Score:4 Normal)
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This is good I did not know this. I now wish I can retract above statements and crawl under rock.

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

February 16th, 2013 at 3:35 PM | Or (Score:2 Normal)
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We can send you to Pakistan and have the village stone you.  I would prefer you get pegged with rocks instead of crawling under one.  

 

BILG

February 16th, 2013 at 5:52 PM | Or Bolivia (Score:1 Normal)
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February 16th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | Meh. Get an Oregon offer and (Score:5 Funny)
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Meh. Get an Oregon offer and then I'll consider him a legitimate BCS prospect.



http://247sports.com/Recruitment/DaShawn-Hand-16204/RecruitInterests

February 16th, 2013 at 11:58 AM | We've got his favorite (Score:1)
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We've got his favorite coaching staff, so I like our chances.

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February 16th, 2013 at 12:11 PM | Life would be amazing if he (Score:1)
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Life would be amazing if he could just call up Ferns and order himself a t-shirt.

February 16th, 2013 at 5:10 PM | Come to UM where you'll (Score:4 Funny)
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Come to UM where you'll practically have 3 dline coaches

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
February 16th, 2013 at 12:46 PM | Hey Magnus....Don't think it (Score:3 Normal)
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Hey Magnus....

Don't think it needs its own post but wanted to give you a heads up if you hadn't heard that Gedeon hurt his shoulder in the 1/27 Hudson basketball game against Youngstown and has been out since.  No official word here locally on the severity of the injury but the bball coach said he hopes to have Ben back for the playoffs.

Given that Gedeon was far and away the best basketball player on the team and Hudson is currently ranked highly they definitely want him back.  I've asked locally if he's sitting out just to play it safe for football next year or is he really hurt and everybody's tight-lipped.

http://www.hudsonhubtimes.com/sports/2013/01/27/hudson-boys-basketball-t...

Didn't know if you knew this or not.

 

 

February 16th, 2013 at 1:35 PM | thanks (Score:3 Normal)
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I had heard about it when he got injured, but I hadn't heard an update in a couple weeks.  Hopefully everything heals up well.

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February 16th, 2013 at 1:00 PM | Not getting excited (Score:-1 Trolling)
February 16th, 2013 at 1:27 PM | Same. No matter how much I (Score:1)
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Same. No matter how much I hear about "character" and "team first" and such the fact is he will likely be the next universal #1 overall player/DL that plays in a state not named Michigan. Great to be top 5 but we're in almost everyones top 5 and I'm jaded and recruiting experienced enough to know these kids always end up in the South or USC (lol). The only alternative is he goes to VT, IMO. I essentially don't even see him as a real option so hopes aren't even awake let alone "up". That said, landing him would cement my current belief that we're a few years out of truly contending for NCs again (I don't underestimate the lack of talent, depth and experience this staff inherited due to late Carr & RR).

February 16th, 2013 at 1:26 PM | Here us Video where Hand says (Score:2)
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Here is Video where Hand says Bud Foster is his favorite coach and Michigan is his favorite coaching staff.

Gotta say, Hand looks bookish in this video, would never look at him and say, "oh yeah, he looks like the top football player in the country".

 

February 16th, 2013 at 2:01 PM | My son knows one of Hand's (Score:5 Normal)
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My son knows one of Hand's best friends (who played football with him). I can tell you Hand is nothing like the stereotypical jock you probably have in mind.

One of the best anecdotes I can share with you is Hand's excitement over every offer he gets. My son's friend said he remembers one day where he got offered by Frostburg State (a small school in Maryland) and he was genuinely excited. Mind you, by this point he already had Bama/VT offers. 

As for the whole bookish thing, I believe he's taking like 4 months off of his recruitment right now to focus on school. Which should give you an idea..

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