Realistically though, what are our chances? Does the coaching staff have any relationships with him? With the offers, it looks like he will be SEC bound.
Scouting Report: Andrew Brown
Chances are pretty slim, in my opinion. But I also thought that about Derrick Green last spring. As far as I know, Michigan's coaching staff does not have any strong pre-existing connections with Brown.
If Brown doesn't come to UVA it'll be a major upset. The UVA coaches have been laying the groundwork for this 2014 class for years now, which is why Blanding is going with such an early decision date. There are three players in the 757 where UVA is just this side of a foregone conclusion and a few more where their chances look as good as anyone else's.
Better UVA than you-know-who.
It certainly helps that the defensive line and safeties are coached by Vincent Brown and Anthony Poindexter, respectively. I just have a hard time imagining two legitimate 5-star prospects going to UVA. While I am expecting Blanding to commit to Virginia next week, I have a feeling Brown will end up elsewhere. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Poindexter is also Brown's lead recruiter (as he is for every prospect out of the Tidewater area.) I think you will be surprised at the quality of class UVA pulls in this year. Barring something totally bizarre, I fully expect Brown will be part of it, and possibly before June 1. There'll probably be all kinds of people casting a suspicious eye at the idea of two five-stars going to UVA, along with some high four-star types like Jamil Kamara (who is the third of the three prospects I mentioned above) but these are relationships that Poindexter and Mike London have been working on for years now.
Virginia is crazy-talented this year.
But if I was a defensive lineman the top school on my list would be MICH. With the way that Hoke and Mattison seem to be able to get the best out of these kids, yeah Michigan is where I'd go.
LSU doesn't seem like a bad place to go. Two projected top-15 picks this year in the draft?
If I were a top defensive lineman, my top choice would be whoever could get me to the NFL as a high draft pick. Rodriguez didn't put out good defensive linemen, and Mike Martin is Michigan's most elite defensive lineman in the last few years . . . and he was a third-rounder.
I might pick Clemson. Or Nebraska. Or somewhere. But Michigan doesn't have a great track record recently.
Look at your avatar dude
I was not aware that Magnus played d-line for Michigan...
Funny, because that's not Magnus. Maybe in his dreams, but not in reality.
really? I was under the impression that everyone has their photo on the avatar... I know I do...
You can't put anything on the internet that isn't true, either.
Hey, did i ever tell you guys about the weekend i spent with Kate Upton in Monaco? She might not look it, but she's surprisingly limber...
Brandon Graham didn't play for Hoke.
Sure we don't have a good track record recently, but I wouldn't be surprised to see defensive linemen take a chance on a school that historically produced great NFL talent. Plus, Mattison still has that (to defensive lineman) I coached Haloti Ngata, (to LBs) Ray Lewis, (to DBs) and Ray Lewis.
Seeing the last few classes that we've pulled in, it seems that recruits have realized that this is not the same staff that struggled with pulling in great talent and developing them to NFL ready players.
"But coach, Ray Lewis played linebacker." - DB recruit to Mattison
"I coached a goddamned murderer. Don't think he doesn't owe me a favor or two"
"I'll announce my commitment immediately"
I thought he meant Ed Reed, but your response is classic.
Or, the recruits might be smart enough to check out Mattison's track record and realize he coached 18 players who eventually went on to play in the NFL. Mattison > Nebraska and Clemson.
Recruits "might" do just about anything. Usually, however, it seems they latch onto the most recent trend. So if one school has a track record of putting _____________ in the NFL Draft, players of the same position seem to gravitate toward that school. That's partly why Michigan is getting good offensive linemen, why USC gets elite quarterbacks, why Alabama gets good running backs, etc.
Mone and Martin pluggin the middle? Do want plz.
I love how this coaching staff puts emphasis on the OL and DL. I'm perfectly fine with pulling the majority of our elite recruits for trench play.
He should be particularly effective after that year of NFL-level training and coaching.
Derp on my part. Meant to type Brown
He looks like he would be an excellent addition to the class. I agree with JimBobTressel, I am okay with our higher rated recruits being in the trenches. It's better that way than in reverse, having elite skill position players with a average line. I honestly think Michigan can have both, the emphasis these first few cycles have been exactly where Michigan needed to add depth. I am worried about WR, but it's probably easier to find serviceable guys for those spots than it is to grow all B1G OL and DL from 2-3 star players.
Excellent post, per the usual Magnus.
"I agree with JimBobTressel." Not sure why but that just made me crack up.
He-yo JimBob, what happened to your points man?
One of the mods said "Goodnight Jim Bob."
for those of us old enough to understand it.
,but right before and at the beginning of Rich Rod we had some first/second rounders. Brandon Graham, LaMarr Woodley and Alan Branch come to mind.
These players were at MICH when Andrew Brown was in elementary school.
I was in elementary school when we won the National Championship in 97. Still remember every single game.
Damn that Tim Dwight was fast. The Daydrion Taylor hit in the PSU game is still the biggest I've seen in my life. If Woodson doesn't slip on his end zone INT vs OSU he would have taken it out and maybe even brought it back. Woodsons big hit vs Colorado and reach back INT really set the tone for the season.
See what I did?
That's really cool that you remember so many things about your favorite team.
I suppose that whole memory thing would be good for Michigan if every single prospect in the entire country grew up as a fan of the Wolverines...
Thanks! I really love Michigan!!
Their uniformz are sooo awesome! I especially like the bright ones that they wear sometimes for big games!!! OMG! If I was a recruit I'd definitely go to Michigan bcuz of kewl uniformzzz.
Point is, IMO there is a big misconception as to what attracts recruits. I would hope that these guys have at least one relatively well adjusted and smart person advising them. Greg Mattison was the DCoordinator for the MFing Ravens and has won national championships and coached plenty of NFL talent.
Let's give these kids a little more credit. They're not all mouth breathing Neanderthals.
"Their uniformz are sooo awesome! I especially like the bright ones that they wear sometimes for big games!!! OMG! If I was a recruit I'd definitely go to Michigan bcuz of kewl uniformzzz."
I don't see anyone making an argument that's anywhere close to this.
Reports are the Norfleet is back at rb with some slot looks!
As long as he's good at returning kickoffs and maybe punts, I don't really care whether he plays RB or CB.
Brandon Graham, LaMarr Woodley and Alan Branch were not coached by Greg Mattison. One point in this thread was that Michigan has not been putting many DL players in the NFL. What does Mattison have to do with that? He had great talent on the Ravens and a "well adjusted and smart person" could come up with the conclusion that Mattison is great when he has great NFL talent, but is unproven with getting kids into the NFL.
"Mattison is unproven with getting kids to the NFL."
His bio on mgoblue.com states that during his collegiate coaching career, Mattison put 18 players in the NFL including 7 in the top 3 rounds and two in the first round.
Maybe that's a typo
Okay, but why would a kid in Virgina be watching and remembering every single Michigan game? Just because you were a Michigan fan in elementary school doesn't mean one of the best DL recruits in the national is as well.
You'd be surprised at the drawing power of Mercury Hayes.
2 DT's in this next class. Hopefully, we can continue to build some momentum in VA and get DG and Mr. Speight to help recruit some more guys from there.
Lol! Why Ronald Reagan?
I am very skeptical of this guy!!!!!!
Why is that?
I'm glad that you never miss a chance to bust his balls for no reason. The things that make this place feel like home.
Remember when you said this?
Never mind - old thread
His size and quick swim move are similar to great players in Miami's 4-3 with Jimmy Johnson. [Unfortunately, his swagger/attitude also reminds me of them.]
While Mattison's 4-3 Under differs, the 4-3 Miami was lethal against multi-option offenses and seems like a counterbalance to Urban's "power spread". It would also work well with our agile LBs.
His choosing UM seems like long odds.