If all goes to chalk, Houston will be our opponent in the Sugar Bowl.
I figured this deserves its own thread to get peoples' comments not only on how the game is going, but how they see the potential future matchup for us going.
Keenum pulls a Braxton Miller, overthrows wide open receiver.
Windy conditions. The natural grass footing looks poor as well.
Don't think we'll see either of these factors in the Sugar Bowl.
I really hope all this talking about Houston in the Sugar Bowl doesn't cause us to end up playing like Georgia in the Cap One Bowl...
I'm not doing this to get page views or anything, because I really don't care about them. But if anyone's interested in doing their own scouting, I've got two complete games of Houston (every snap vs. UTEP and SMU) up on youtube.. Links
SMU video quality is a bit spotty because I had to use some questionable conversion software...but UTEP is high quality. Enjoy
EDIT: I should also note that I plan to add more, should Houston and LSU pull off wins today.
I'm especially interested to get a look at Houston's D. We know the O is good, but will their D be able to stand up to Denard and Co.?
I made the videos for other people to see, because my area of interest is largely 'jimmies and joes' instead of 'x's and o's', so this is more my opinion than something you should take as gospel.
But from what I've seen, they're not very athletic, miss a lot of tackles, and often get pulled out of position.
However, they're fairly opportunistic. They thrive on forcing turnovers. In the SMU game, they did that and kept the score down. Against UTEP they struggled, and were one bad UTEP-pass away from either losing, or at least forcing OT.
But really. C-USA is really really bad.
But anybody else think Kevin Sumlin might have a shot at the UT job?
I expect them to make a serious run at Chris Peterson. If they can't get him to leave, maybe Kirby Smart (Alabama's D-coordinator).
I think this is the best chance for someone to get Peterson. He's going to get shut out of a BCS bowl at #7 in the country.
And Austin is a great city where I would expect there to be top notch hospitals for his son's care
That's the wild card here. A side benefit of being Boise's coach is that the non-football demands on a head coach are much, much smaller--which seems to be why Peterson has stayed so long. In Austin, he'll be in a fishbowl and won't have as much time for his kid.
Recruiting at UT has to be the easiest bigtime job in the country. Pick best players in Texas, offer them, they commit early, done.
Man the wind in this game is brutal...its gotta favor So. Miss. Did you just see that punt?
who do we want to win this game? does it even matter? Houston losing would help us wouldnt it?
It really depends on who you want to play, should we make it into the Sugar Bowl.
If Houston loses, who are the next likely candidates in line to go to the Sugar Bowl?
I say TCU
TCU will not be in contention to go to a BCS bowl.
If Houston loses, yes they will. They will be in the top 16, which is all that is necessary for *them* because of a non-AQ BCS rule, and they'll get the automatic bid from a non-AQ school because they won their conference and Boise and Houston did not.
You are right. I forgot about the nonAQ rule. However, would the Sugar Bowl even pick them over a bigger program? I would think not.
that they have to be ranked ahead at least one AQ conference champion.
They're ahead of the Big East champ, whoever that will be. However, they need two teams to drop past them. I don't think Georgia will drop far enough unless they get absolutely slaughtered, and even then it won't hurt their computer rankings much. Wisconsin would fall below TCU with a loss, but I don't think State would. TCU probably needs Baylor to lose along with Houston.
i'm not so sure TCU is a shoe-in for the top 16. depends a lot on what happens today and margins of victory. a close loss by msu and georgia could keep them ahead of TCU. houston could stay above TCU even with a close loss as well.
Ok. State if they lose would definitely be a candidate. I don't know if a 9-3 Oklahoma would stay in the top 14 to be eligible. Kansas State would be eligible if they beat Iowa State today, but they're a weak draw.
Although a Houston loss would help us make the top 14 -- we would probably still be in the top 14 even if Georgia beats LSU.
Houston loss drops them below 14th? With only one loss?
It's Houston, and they would've lost to a #24 ranked team, and their best win would be unranked UCLA.
They're best win is against UCLA, who is not exactly impressive. They also struggled to beat Louisiana Tech. The human polls will put them around 16th, and the computers might have them lower.
the unbeatens from the lesser conferences always drop like a stone if/when they get their 1st loss.
I expect Denard and Fitz to combine for a good 300 yards rushing. The fact that the Eagles converted a 3rd and 13 on a QB draw with a guy that runs like Griese makes me feel good about this.
Announcers said that last year, So. Miss put up 300 yards rushing on Houston.
Corrections it was 349 yards
So far i'm not impressed, Houston has done nothing except complete a pass after their QB was past the line of scrimmage. I would love to play them in the Sugar Bowl, so after we deal them an emabrassing beat down it will look very good on our part.
If Houston loses, who is projected in the Sugar Bowl?
Probably would depend on the outcome of the other championship games. Too see if someone ranked high would lose and fall.
The selection order follows:
January 2012 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
Sugar actually gets the first pick is LSU is the SEC champ, so the order would then be:
Sugar, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
Most people project Michigan as the first at-large pick to the Sugar. Stanford is expected to be picked by the Fiesta to face the Big 12 champ. That leaves ACC at-large, Big 12 at-large, Big East Champ, or non-AQ at-large as the third pick. The Big East Champ is going to suck and a disinterested VA Tech is the only ACC at-large option, so I'd expect Boise if Oklahoma loses today and Oklahoma State if Oklahoma wins today. Personally, neither is a great matchup for us. Boise isn't going to make the mistakes Michigan's defense needs to be successful and Oklahoma State is running a buzzsaw offense this season.
All right, Houston it is then. Go Cougars.
And stop dropping passes.
Could they end up picking WVU if they end up the Big East champ? I know they may not be great but I'm sure WVU fans still have some animosity for Michigan so it could be a way for the Sugar Bowl to draw extra viewers.
Do you think they would take Oklahoma maybe with their second pick, even if the Sooners lose? Or even a total curve ball and create a Boise/OU rematch....or does a Sooner loss drop them out of the magical top-14 making this irrelevant
This widget is pretty cool.
Houston is not afraid to run the ball, at least aganist So. Miss. They are not all pass.
They average 163 yards rushing a game. I was quite surprised by this. Is Keenum mobile?
I would say Keenum is "pockey mobile" he is coming off a major knee surgery, but still moves well to slide to avoid the rush and buy time to throw down field.
Without any knowledge, I would imagine screens and draws would be a good portion of this based on their spread.
I don't see what all the hype is about.
Both teams don't have anything near the same speed as we do, on both offense and defense. Also, both the offensive and defensive lines are not playing very well. The reason why their blitzes have been effective so far is that it looks like So. Miss' offensive line is not used to picking up blitzes.
Also, Keenum, so far, hasn't shown anything near Heisman quality. Nowhere near Luck or Griffin.
EDIT - The Houston offensive line is clearly superior to the D-line of So. Miss. But seriously, So. Miss looks really undisciplined. Even though So. Miss apparently doesn't know how to tackle, Houston has only picked up yards here and there.
They run almost the same offense Texas Tech use to run under Leech. I think they have a recruiting advantage being in Texas for the CUSA so they just can dominate people. Put them up against a good team...and it might not fair well for them.
and just saw the Lexus commercial. Do guys really buy their wives a Lexus for Christmas??? I know some people are rich and can afford it (sure as hell not me) but it's a woman we are talking about. If her husband's rich and she wants a Lexus she would have bought that long before Christmas. She should just be happy with the mechanism that plays the Lexus song .... My wife would be lucky to get that!
I bought my wife an Audi A4...
But after driving around in a 2002 Grand Prix with over 140K miles, I figured she was due for a new car.
I've always loved those commercials.
YOU SPENT $50,000 ON A CAR WITHOUT TELLING ME?!?! THAT'S IT, I'M CALLING MY LAWYER. My mother was right, I should have married Larry from high school.
Especially given that if I was going to get a new car (a large $ investment) I want to pick out the color and the features and etc. I would HATE to get a car as a gift.
I'm not picky ... I'll take a new car and don't care what features are on it ... as long as my wife isn't buying it for me, and it doesn't come out of our bank account
Houston QB does not like pressure.
Down boy, Mattison, down boy.
I can't see Keenum getting that much time against our defense
Houston looks like lunch...
I'm now hoping they win this game so we can thrash them with Manball and Mattison
The only thing that would worry me if that they have a lot of Ninja receivers.
Let's see if the gameplan changes when Houston has the wind. He's finding people now though. They just need to bring it in.
Dropped TD pass? Winners want the ball when the game is on the line.
Safeties have to be ready to play if we end up against these guys. They kill you with those deep routes.
Hagerup and the Houston kicker would have a derpfest if the two teams meet up.
That's because you're a fool, Mr James.
Has Houston at 5...and Boise State at 24. Hmmm. Yes. That makes perfect sense, Craig.
Special teams. That is all.
if Houston loses could they drop behind us?
Good question. They would at least get hammered in the human polls.
I think they will. Houston hasn't beaten anyone, so the pollsters will kill them. The computers already aren't fans of Houston and they'll drop significantly there too.
I think they would. This is probably the 1st game most of the voters have even watched Houston. They're certainly looking like a fraud right now. C-USA sucks
Yeah these teams are bad. Lines are small and slow and I can guarantee we have several athletes the likes of which they haven't seen all year.
Having watched Keenum before, I feel pretty safe saying he will look a lot better when not in a wind storm. However, his receivers usually have drop issues like this IIRC. I'd be somewhat worried about an OSU passing game except for receivers dropping balls instead of the QB blatantly missing them.
Looking at it Southern Miss is getting constant pressure on Keenum which would make me confident against and Im pretty sure the speed of Denard would overwhelm their defense
This is crazy this is going to be a 6 hour game. Took an hour for the first quarter.
They're going to lose I think and we will only play them if there's a rematch, which if OK St wins, I doubt there will be.
Houston has played one team with a winning record. Southern Miss is by far the best team theyve played.
You think OK St will win? I doubt it. Oklahoma has a high powered offense too, just not as high-powered; the difference is that Oklahoma has a defense.
Oklahoma does not have a defense.
Denard and Fitz are going to eat this team alive.
So. Miss up 7 1 minute to go in the first.
If Houston loses does that help the BCS chances for Michigan?
I feel pretty confident we could torch this team on offense. Serious question. If Houston loses does Boise jump into the top 6 and therefore get an automatic bid? Is that who we would play?
Houston punched in the mouth. Let's see how they respond.
If they win, we'd have the easiest BCS win ever. If they lose, it validates my feelings about mid-majors.
I missedt at first, too. I thought it was going to be on Fox or something. Had no idea it was on ABC.
Whatever the channel is in your neck of the woods.
Re: Houston. Haven't watched them at all this year, but I think Case Keenum's flat sidearm delivery will hurt his NFL chances. Seems really odd watching it. He has a quick release, but he is a product of the spread.
EDIT: 17 yard sacks! C-USA FOOTBALL!!!
Keenum does not look very mobile.
Please Houston, Please of please blow this game.
This is like watching high school football. Houston is a joke. I want us to play a legit team in a bowl.
doesn't that lock us in to the Sugar Bowl against TCU?
Does TCU play today? Maybe we need to start another scouting thread.
TCU would be at large, but the bowl would not have to pick them? What could happen is that if Houston loses, then the Big12 gets another one in. Okalahoma could beat Okie St, the bowls could switch, and we could face Oklahoma. Fiesta Bowl dude said something of the sort in an interview with Okie State rivals site.
I would live to play Oklahoma. That game would be epic.
Then next year we play Alabama. Hoke and company on the big stage. Michigan would be all the way back.
Georgia would have to win along with Oklahoma, Iowa State, and Southern Miss. That would be in the Fiesta bowl as well. So really as long as Houston and Georgia loses we are set in the Sugar bowl. http://www.sports-ratings.com/college_football/2011/11/2011-2012-bcs-bow...
Doesn't look like they will beat Southern Miss .... bring on someone else!!!
refs are bad...some serious rigging on that last play
I'm just watching their o- and d- lines. USM is getting penetration against them; you know MM and RVB would squash these guys. And the o-line isn't doing too well, either. Also, poor tackling and dropped balls all over the place. I'm not sure how much of that is nerves, talent or weather.
All in all... if UH wins this thing, I really like our chances. Especially with a month to practice and scheme. However, I think USM will probably pull this one out.
Unless I'm missing something, isn't TCU ineligible for a BCS bowl? They aren't in the top 14 and the Mountain West is not an auto bid conference.
Only need to be top 16 and conference champion to qualify as an at-large for non-Aq
TCU is 18 and plays an awful UNLV team today. But if Houston loses Boise would move up to #6 in the BCS and doesn't that give them an automatic BCS game?
That said, I bet Houston pulls this one out. They can score in bunches when they get going.
We should definitely be cheering for Houston to come back in this game. We would blow them out of the building
Wow. Houston is going down
OKaaaay. Who's next?
wow southern miss down 14 ....
Coming into this game, I wanted Houston to lose and fall below Michigan. Now, I want to roll the dice and get Houston in the Sugar Bowl. I want a Georgia vs Hawaii style thrashing.
Seriously, there has to be someone better than Craig James. Not to belabor the point, but seriously.
Better at announcing? Of course there is. Better at killing hookers? I don't think so...
is starting to look like its not necessary. Least impressive supposed-to-be-impressive offense I've seen in a while.
If HU gets blown out do they fall below us in the BCS? That could be a plus I guess.
absolutely theres a chance. they are only a couple spots above michigan in the computer standings, and i think they slide way down with a loss
If they lose like they are losing now, it will be so ugly they will fall below Minnesota.
I think Michigan might be in with a Houston loss (especially a bad one) even if Georgia beats LSU. If that happens, Georgia gets the Sugar, but Michigan should move ahead of both Houston and the B1G loser into the top 14, and now Houston isn't taking up a spot. TCU probably can't move up to take an automatic bid, so there should be one at-large spot left. That would match us up against Georgia in the Sugar.
if TCU breaks in the top 16, they get the auto-bid
Michigan basketball game?
because the game is in hand.
I'd rather watch the last day of saturday football with the fate of Michigan's BCS implications on the line than the last 10 minutes of a blowout against a bad bball team in the nonconference.
Because ISU is turrble and we've already seen Chris Allen.
They could become a good RPI win down the line. White is a beast. This is a good response to Virginia.
Who says we are not? Remote control + itchy trigger finger = visual multitasking.
because I don't have the BTN
Craig James's hair looks better than Houston's offense today.
so time for a scouting TCU thread?
Why would anyone not want to play this team in the Sugar Bowl? Who cares about semantics, we want to win. Playing Houston gives us a better chance to do that.
I've never had to consciously decide to watch a CUSA game over both a UM bball and a game as big as UNC/UK.
Houston strikes back
No review on that scoring play? What a joke.
Why would they review it? It is obvious that as far as college football is concerned Houston needs to win this game.
also obvious the ball cleared the plane of the goal line
We want Sparty to win today because that ensures a BCS bid right? If they lose a close one isn't there still a decent chance that they could still be taken ahead of us?
Also, aren't we about as likely to play Alabama or OK St, especially if UH loses or there's no rematch.
We can't play Alabama. They're going to the title game regardless. Oklahoma State is a possibility, but isn't as likely. They don't have a great fan base and will be coming off of two losses. TCU and Houston are the most likely options.
If we are worried about moving up 2 spots how is it assumed that TCU will move up 2 spots while having their computer numbers murdered this week by UNLV? Georgia and the B1G loser would both stay ahead of them with a good showing today IMO. Who is likely if Houston loses and TCU does not get to 16?
That's a really good question. Probably the Oklahoma/Oklahoma State loser.
I wouldn't mind a game against Oklahoma. Not sure I would want to see OSU though. That would be a huge shootout.
If Ok St. wins today, there's a decent chance that antirematch sentiment has OK ST jump them. They'll have 5 top 25 wins to Bama's 1. There's already been stuff on SI and ESPN talking about it.
They'd need some help from the voters. The computers love Oklahoma State, but the voters have them fourth and fifth in the polls. They'd need to jump VA Tech and Stanford and hope the computers can make up the difference between them and Alabama.
ESPN has to throw scenarios out there to keep things interesting, but the numbers are really unlikely to work out for Oklahoma State.
I think you're going to see a lot of people start examaning the resumes closer next week and it's clear that the computers have them so high for a reason. Their loss is on a friday in double OT with the media going nuts over the basketball coach dying.
I really think they need to win huge today for an outside chance at the title game. Reality is that they have a ton of ground to make up. They need to be a clear #2 to the computers and muddle the picture in the human polls. Right now, Alabama is a clear #2 to the human polls and is sharing #2/#3 with Oklahoma State in the computers. Oklahoma State has to jump two one loss teams with much better losses than Iowa State to reach #3 in the human polls.
Precident says Alabama is going to the title game.
If LSU and OSU win couldn't that be the title game? I really think the pollsters would crave an Alabama Michigan Sugar Bowl game.
I would welcome it. They would probably win but I think we would give them a game. To be the best we've got to beat the (almost) best. IMO I would much rather play an Alabama or an Oklahoma than a Houston. If for some reason our guys weren't up for a game against Hoiston we could lose and that would absolutely suck.
Imagine if we were to win against a team like Bama this year...
We would truly be back. All I'm saying is I would be interested to see a LSU win and an OSU win.
In your scenario we would play Alabama twice in six months.
In other news, Iowa St vs Kansas St is delayed for weather. Your rooting interest here is Iowa State.
Keenum should have gone to Ohio, he could have gotten a much bigger apartment paid for by someone else.
I'd live there.
College student lives in small house with no dishwasher. Shocking.
Good non AQ teams win BCS games by being excellent at all the little things and having a couple of stars at key positions. This leads them to run a scorched earth campaign over their subpar schedules. Houston isn't that team. They're Hawaii against Georgia.
Eitherway, ugliness will ensue.
but, Last year he did back up Brady Hoke as the coach Michigan should get.
The funny thing is, that's really when this board started hating James. A few people disliked him over the TTU thing, but it was really when he kept talking about Hoke as the right guy for the job during last year's bowl that he became a source of outrage. Of course, he ended up being right on the money.
Houston got a lot of momentum right now.
Houston - 75
S. Miss. - 21
Houston still is a suped up Toledo.
Looks like there are maybe 200 So. Miss fans there, and their team seems to be falling apart.
OK. Spoke too soon!
This game will turn into a rout quickly. Houston will end up winning by 21+.
I was just checking the specs on the end line for the rotary girder...
Houston cant tackle worth shit.
Houston fan is still a sad panda.
This game is like watching every Toledo game, no defense, huge offense... 21-14 USM
We would dismember Houston on offense, and as long as we rush three and drop 8, we'd shut them down. Could be a bloodbath.
But I believe GMatt would at least slow them down. That is all that needs to happen for a Michigan blowout win.
Desmond Morgan could play D-line for Houston...
He stole Denards "we're hungry" thing
Denard was not the first one to do it.
To believe you.
In case anyone stopped watching, the bball team has let 10 points come off their lead. Still not ulcer inducing, but the lead is down to 10 and we have started turning the ball over and playing ole defense.
was that by So Miss before half? I guess they want the 17 million. Probably got paid a visit by the enforcer.
Looking at Houston's schedule, I don't understand how they're ranked #6. I remember past Conference USA teams that went 12-0 (Tulane & Marshall) in recent years that faced the same level of horrible competition and they were never ranked this high.
They've been crushing teams lately and Keenum's getting a lot of press which helps. But #6 is definitely a stretch.
What's strange and maybe kills of that first thought of mine is that they're #8 in ELO but #16 in Predictor. You'd think the big margins of victory and lousy schedule strength would have it the other way around, but those close early games with bad teams aren't helping them any.
Case Keenum's stats are sublime and he has some Heisman buzz and reasonably high name recognition among CFB fans.
In some way similar to Colt Brennan's Hawaii team making it to the 2007 Sugar Bowl: a record-breaking quarterback froma non-AQ conference often can propel his team higher in the rankings than they deserve to be
WOW. Muchie Legeaux is starting for Cincy.
Come on, Houston! I want a fat holiday turkey for the Michigan team to feast on.
Iowa State and Kansas State are playing in miserable conditions. It's raining and 44 degrees. Ugh. I'll take snow anyday.
Those conditions remind me of the 2008 UM-Northwestern game. It was so cold with that rain snow mix. I definitely feel for the fans in the stands at the KSU-ISU game.
Edit: My first ever double post. I blame it on still shivering from the game I referenced in the first post.
Just when I thought Houston was gonna tie it up.
Didn't see that one coming. On a side note, I like Southern Miss' uniforms a lot. Those flat black helmets are legit.
Blocked punt, carried in for a TD. This game is turning ugly. Heard so much about Keenum but it looks like is having trouble with the pressure.
So say Michigan makes the Sugar Bowl, who would be the opponent if houston loses?
TCU would be an automatic if they make the top 16, which they probably would if Georgia loses tonight. That would give the Sugar Bowl a choice between TCU and West Virginia.
Time to nut up or shut up for Houston.
Craig James is unimpressed with nontraditional punt formations. Craig James also [allegedly] has bloodlust wrt prostitutes.
Just when I thought Houston was going to get back into it.
If Houston Loses will they drop out of the top 10? and Michigan move up? giving us a better chance for us to get a BCS bowl game?
Wow keenum intercepted.
Most posts ever about a Conference USA game. Also, this game feels like watching Northwestern playing Nebraska, except I think Nebraska is better than both of these teams.
I think Northwestern is better than both of these teams.
How is it that TCU ends up in the Sugar Bowl and not Boise State? Can you not be a non-AQ qualifier if you dont win your conference?
The auto bid for a non qualifier only applies to conference champs. Boise State could be an at large though.
why would TCU be in the sugar bowl? They wont get an at large bid and neither will Boise unless houston bombs out and doesnt make a comeback
That BCS projector that was posted here around last week says it's TCU's spot if Houston loses, and Craig James made comments that seem to suggest they're next in line. I'm in the same boat as you, I don't see why it would be them.
...if they finish in the top 16 and better than any of the AQ conference champs (the second part of that is a given--there's no way WV passes them).
Wow..... Houston is a paper tiger if there ever was one.... Or, should i say, paper cougar?
Denard and Fitz would utterly destroy this horrible defense and you can see that their offense wilts when it gets hit with a consistent rush. Van Bergen and Martin n the line with Mattisons improvising and masking different LB and safety blitzs.....
Houston not giving up that easily. They really want that beat down from us.
Pick Houston...down at the 4...Next Play TD...gettin crazy
Dang, that was a crazy sequnce of plays right there.
How long after the draft does he drop the horse faced wife and leave her with the awesome apartment alone?
Is a horse-faced wife better or worse than a fat little girlfriend? Options...
ISU takes lead on KSU..... YEEEE
ITS ALL GOING TO PLAN!!!
I think Michigan would score about 70 on Houston...
It would probably look worse than our 61-7 win over them from 92. But I could see them scoring another touchdown or 2.
Wow...I kind of just started watching but I can't help but notice how terrible Houston's D looks. I hope they don't win because our O would shred these guys. I would rather play some good competition to see where we stand as a team going into the spring.
I'd like the win, but this is pretty bad.
OMG.....Fitzkrieg and Denard could tack on another 1000 yards against this Houston run defense...
Houston is hot garbage. Bring on a real team for us in the BCS.
...Step up time!
will they both be ranked ahead of us?
No, S. Miss will not be moving up to top 16 by beating UH.
Don't loook now, but Houston is choking being down 2 TDs.
4th and 1 near midfield, down 14 late in the 3rd, you have the #1 offense in the country.
YOU HAVE TO PUNT. IT'S A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
EDIT: good thing they punted! That 61 yard TD would have only been a 24 yard TD!
Im pretty sure earlier in the game he said "IT"S THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! GO FOR IT!"
WOOOOO!~ blow em out boys!
6 ranking is such a farce
Love your avatar. I smudged my screen.
TD So. Miss!!! Houston is turrrrible...
So besides watching an overrated Houston team get smoked now, anyone see the ball boy who jumps for joy on every play and forgets to give the ref the ball?
Yeah I'm getting a kick out of that kid
Lol Houston. I knew they sucked. Horrible D and no run game.
Well, now what?
I guess Sumlin should have spent more time preparing his team instead of shopping his services...
Houston is exactly what I thought they were. Once they played someone semi equal to them, and they encounter a little bit of resistance, they crumble. Their defense is awful once they play equal competition.
I've only been watching for the last 2 Tds but is anyone else noticing the lack of effort by houstons D?
But could Greg Mattison?
At least we're definitely making a BCS bowl with a UH loss right?
A lot still depends on Georgia.
I don't know that this would help us at all on that front. I doubt Houston will drop 10 spots after losing to a ranked team, but I guess you never know.
Houston will plummet in both the human and computer polls
The best team they beat is UCLA! They're going to lose by 20+ to Southern Miss! There is no way they will be ranked in front of us after this loss.
Game isn't over yet. If they tack on some garbage time points, I doubt voters would even realize how bad they looked. You are relying on coaches to actually watch other games, even if their team isn't playing. I just don't think it is a given that a 12-1 Houston team drops all the way below us.
Hypothetical accodring to the simulator, say Houston and KSU loses. Georgia pulls off the upset of the year, We want Baylor to WIN. I believe this is because if Baylor wins they would stop TCU from being in the Top 14.
TCU needs to break top 16, not top 14, for an Autobid. Fortunately, for them to do this, michigan will in all likelihood break top 14.
Umm..Houston we have a problem.
Way to get ahead of yourself, OP
Um, the post started with "If".
Who is in our next scouting thread? These are fun. Love watching with you guys.
This Cougars team is the worst thing to come out of Houston since Mike Jones. Who? Mike Jones
So. Miss is putting on an offensive clinic.
USM's recievers have some hands, yo.
they will be out about 17 million bucks. The good news is they will save a ton of cash if they make the Houston bowl.
Wow a huge catch by Lampley.
All I know is that I want USM to pull this out.
Otherwise I'll be forced to watch a Sugar Bowl with have the camera time going to the doppelgänger of Brady Quinn's sister/AJ Hawk's wife.
I had finally put that out of my mind many years later. College football broadcasting's darkest and most infuriatingly stupidly produced game ever. She has split loyalty. We get it. She got more air time than the players.
Well, start scouting Bedlam. The loser is probably our next opponent.
I'm thinking Stanford or Boise if OU loses.
Boise won't be going to a BCS bowl.
Frankly, I think UM can beat Okie State if Denard plays like he did versus Ohio.
I think actually TCU may squeak in now and be the new Houston, i.e. our Sugar Bowl opponent
I just seen a guy with the letters BCS cut into the side of his head. Sucks to be him right now.
Not to be that guy, but this one is one of my biggest pet peeves.
He could change that to "BOB" pretty easily afterwards. Not really sure if that makes him look like any less of a complete idiot, but at least it won't tick off other disappointed Houston fans.
I'm mourning Denard's 600 yard game before it even happened. :(
He would have been pulled at halftime with only 400, and Gardner for the 3rd Q, with Bellomy for the 4th. I think Ann Arbor Pioneer's D is better than Houston's.
I'm kinda bummed because I like watching a good tail-whipping by the good guys in winged helmets, but it does seem to help UM get into the BCS, so there's that.
But does Houston being dominated help Michigan or not?
Houston may drop below michigan if they get blown out. Non AQ's also lose a BCS auto bid (unless TCU breaks into the top 16)
Houston losing at all will drop them under Michigan.
UM is a near lock now. UGA still has to lose for UM to be 100 percent in the BCS.
Southern Miss must want to keep the TV ratings up in the 4th.
This is some of the worst football I've seen all year. And I watched the MAC championship.
Strong, bewildering words. Why would you watch the MAC championship?
So anyway, I'm watching the game on a laptop but for some reason there's no sound. They keep showing this girl in black with shades on who I'm assuming is someone connected to Case Keenum and looking very disappointed. Sister? Girlfriend? Unusually young looking mom?
Don't look now, but Kansas State is losing too. *knock on wood*
ISU has to be one of the best 6-5 teams in a while.
This is just depressing if you are a Houston Cougar fan - one game, really the only game that you needed to get up for, and your high-powered offense is being shut down by an okay USM unit and your defense can't seem to slow down a team that was held ro 20 points by Marshall.
They have to go for it here. Your D sucks and youre down 21.
Even if your D didn't suck really. That wasn't a "let's utilize a T.O. and talk it over" situation. The whole team should have known it was go for it time.
Craig James now has Case Keenum at the top of his heisman list with this performance
So do we add TCU comments to this thread or is there going to be a new thread to scout TCU? They are up 7-3 on UNLV in the second and are pretty underwhelming so far.
New thread. You take this one.
Better bring out some Phi Slamma Jamma!
At least someone on Houston is delivering a knockout punch.
How was that not an automatic ejection?
Uconn has come back and only down 8 with 5 minutes remaining.
Pretty gnarly of the band to play the "Darth Vader Theme" after the sack.
High drama on the gridiron.
Keep showing those sad Houston cheerleaders; they are pretty good looking if I do say so myself.
This is the same Southern Miss team that lost to a 9 loss UAB team last week.
Lots of face palms in Houston
Buzz, Keenum's wife, woof.
she is not so cute. Maybe she has "other" skills.
So if Houston loses and is out of a BCS game the conference loses millions of dollars. I wonder if the AD at both schools are conspiring for a miraculous comeback? Even Southern Miss loses a ton of money by winning today.
"The whole complexity of this game could have been changed."
Mr. James, I'd like to introduce you to my friend, Dic Tionary.
Nice try at the Heisman, Keenum. Maybe next year...oh wait !!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like you came straight out of a Bucknuts thread. Taunting undergrads is pretty weak.
Congrats to Keenum on his career. Didn't end the way he wanted, but he had a run few could even dream of.
49 to 21 yeah their dropping below us
Are you a Kentucky fan? I hate your nickname.
49 to 21 yeah their dropping below us
Let's assume for a moment Houston drops below us in the polls. That leaves two possibilties:
A) LSU beats Georgia and we're in to the Sugar Bowl because only 2 teams from a conference can be in BCS bowls. (WE'RE IN!)
B) Georgia beats LSU (?)
My question is this: If GA beats LSU and is automatically into the Sugar Bowl and LSU presumably is still in the title game, if OSU is launched by voters to the #2 spot, does that mean that Alabama is locked out of the BCS bowls and we constructively get bumped up a spot?
If LSU loses to GA, the only thing that might save our BCS chances is OSU being bumped to #2 and LSU being knocked down to #3. There's no way LSU stays at #1 if they lose to Georgia today.