Or, for that matter, what does Sam Webb's gut make of the situation?
Scout Predicts Parker to USC
I was listening to the RR podcast on WTKA this morning and Sam was calling in from his hospital room. Hopefully, it's not his gut! His gut is one of the most reliable recruiting tools we have.
did they mention what is wrong with him? Hope he's alright.
They are re-calibrating his gut feeling as it has been slightly off as of late
I negged you now for complaining about it
You have reached the 'neg on site' level for a while. Take a break from posting, coming back in a few days once the fall-out levels have dropped.
See, now you will get negged here too. You were a mostly rational poster before the nukes started falling, no one will hold one bad day against you. Just take a break for a few days.
in hopes to avoid N.O.S. status.
not until your edit.
Sam Webb's gut is jealous of the Situation.
I really really hope that this is not true. Also when did Scout actually get people to design their website? It gives me less of a headache now.
If I could reach through the internet, I would slap you across the face for insulting that beautiful, big-faced, goddess. What has she ever done but let us all know what the coaches said at halftime while looking fine doing it?
I'm sure this has been posted a million times here and elsewhere, but can someone please explain the lure of a school about to be slammed with sanctions (this is public knowledge) that is coached by a guy with a career losing record as a HC?
I'm sure they said the exact same thing about us.
hot girls.. awesome weather...
You mean what's the lure of a school that has produced 1st round pick after 1st round pick, several national championships and Heisman winners in the last decade, a pipeline to the NFL, and the hottest cheerleaders in the country? I couldn't tell you...
But seriously, until those sanctions are handed down, I'm going to take the threat of sanctions with a grain of salt. If all they lose is 2 scholarships a year or they're banned from the postseason for one year, then it's really not going to have a huge effect.
As a USC grad school alum, it pains me to have to admit that Oregon now has the hotter cheerleaders.
Everything else you said is 100% correct.
except that it isn't the "school" that produces 1st round talent after 1st round talent. i believe that that has to be put in some part(ok mostly) on the coaches. those coaches are gone(sneaky pete). while lane so far has not shown that same ability as a HC to get the talent to the next level. Tenn IMO under-achieved for the talent level he had.
You're right. He didn't show the ability to get the talent to the next level in his one season at Tennessee. He is a monumental failure at producing NFL talent, unless you consider the fact that Eric Berry is going to be a top 5 or top 10 pick in the NFL draft.
He was going to be a top 10 pick regardless of who the coach was? Oh. Then I guess your point doesn't really have any value.
The biggest and best thing that produces NFL talent is good high school talent. USC still has a ton of talent remaining and will probably pull in a very good recruiting class this year (unless mondo sanctions come down prior to NSD).
If you go down the list, they pick the school that makes the most sense to them, I am interested in seeing where most of those kids actually go, especially Sean Parker. I have always been nervous, going heads up with USC for a recruit, though I am sitll holding out hope that Sean Parker picks Michigan. I guess we'll all find out soon.
Get him on the phone with Reggie Bush, er, I mean Donovan Warren... I mean, wait...
I'm not sure how accurate or updated the predictions are. Cal, Michigan, and SC are listed as his finalists, but UW is not, even though it was revealed this week that he's taking an official to Seattle and it's also one of his finalists.
Scout posted a free story about the details of his USC trip. Sounds like it was a decent trip but he wasn't necessarily wowed. I could be wrong though b/c Parker is playing this one close to the vest.
WOOO! Parker to University of Wyoming....oh wait, not THAT UW.
I still think we have a good shot, regardless. They said the same thing when D. Warren was deciding, and we stole him away. Here's to hoping we get him, and if not, we better land Knight.
Tell me what Scout thinks then.
Also, as an aside, I think Sam Webb's gut feelings should be interpreted as "M leads for player X today" instead of what I thought used to be a 100% gaurantee (based on "gut feelings" about Grimes/Murphy and now Parker).
Though, again, maybe I should reserve judgment until signing day - afterall, it's all about signing day.
he doesn't give the gut feeling unless the kid is a silent. that's a double edged sword though. when a kid is a silent he'll usually continue taking trips which ups the likelihood of him changing his mind. the coaching staff could also decide they don't want the kid who made that silent commitment.
But silents don't really mean anything either. How long until football joins basketball and gets an early signing period? We should start a pool.
I'm so sick of this argument. "Tell me what X thinks (on signing day)."
The entertaining aspect of recruiting is following it through the whole process. No, you don't close the book on anyone until they sign. That's pretty obvious at this point. If you are going to have the mentality that none of this means anything at all, then don't follow it, go into hibernation and we will wake you up on February 3. Yes, there was a time when we thought Michigan had a great chance at Seantrel Henderson or Latwan Anderson, or Corey Nelson for example. The thought of any of those is laughable now. But that makes the recruiting process fun to follow.
My point is, it isn't "all about signing day."
People can have differing opinions.
I only care about recruiting to the extent it directly impacts M football. Similar to the RR position of I only talk about players who play for M, I don't care about recruiting unless it directly impacts our team (while others follow all recruits b/c they enjoy the story and process).
Since that's my position, it is all about siging day for me, which is why I like the early signing period idea (though, the board clearly disagrees for an undisclosed reason)
The reason I am against an early signing period is the culture of coaching changes in this business. Kids should have every right to wait it out to see who is or isn't going to bail on them. Take Dillon Baxter for example. He was committed to USC for like, 3 years or something outrageous like that. An article on Rivals was posted saying how he wishes there was an early signing period. Then BOOM! a week later, Carroll ups and leaves and Baxter waivers. If he's already locked in, he's SOL. Because he hadn't signed an NLI yet though, he could have moved on to another school (had Lane Kiffin not come in and did God knows what to keep him there). Hopefully you see my point though.
I totally agree that the scenario you described is problematic. However, I think the NCAA could (and may currently) allow recruits to transfer without losing eligibility or having to sit out a year if such a change occurs.
Plus, recruits are not required to sign during the earlier period - it's simply an option for coaches and players.
+1 to you for substantive discussion
Edit: "An institution may release a student from his or her NLI obligation by selecting the “Complete Release” option on the NLI Release Request Form." So, while an early signee may be bound if the coach leaves, the school can release the recruit.
I like it.
all the ncaa(well i'm sure not all) would have to institute is "that if a school where said recruit has previously signed a NLI early. if that school then changes head coaches before the normal NLI day. then recruit can request out of the early NLI with-out penalty. if coaching changes after normal NLI day then all previous rules about recruiting still apply" thank you for your cooperation.
sincerely the NCAA
Waaaaaay too much OSU and ND in that list.
You are taking a gigantic leap of faith that the NCAA is going to do anything other than tap USC gently on the wrist, lisp out a faint "Tut, tut" and sashay away.
+1 for amazing imagery
Parker supposely loved meeting Monte Kiffin and they spent alot of time together talking football etc. He also has a very good friend on the USC team that hosted his visit. Unfortunately, Parker will be tough to pry away from USC.
If I as a safety had the opportunity to play in a Monte Kiffin Defense I would definitely jump at it. Even if that meant playing for Lane Kiffin.
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but Parker's HS "recruiting coordinator" is Byron Moore Sr, who's son plays for SC and was Parker's host on his official visit last weekend. Also just read on rivals that SC is going hard after Latwan Anderson, who has said SC is his dream school. Hopefully if he goes to SC, that will sway Parker's decision.
USC's current class only has one 3-star safety. I don't think you could blame the kid for going to USC.
I really hope we get this kid, and I will e disappointed if we don't. On that note I don't see how RR and the staff can't pry Dorsey from Florida they have insane depth at safety (almost as deep as USC) especially with Elam, Dowling ,and Harden all coming in this year. Their sell: "Come to Florida and win a NC; while riding the bench." or Michigan's sell: " Come to the winningest program in history and be a part of the resurgence now." It's that whole little fish in big pond vs. big fish in small pond scenario.
Michigan is not and will never be a "small pond".
I'm being position specific, compared to USC and Florida, Michigan is a small pond at the safety position IMO as of right now.
I really didn't need a dong punch today, wether there is any truth to this or not. It has just been that kind of day.
Per USC's best beat writer, Kiffin is at Narbonne High (Parker's school) today. Looks like they really want him if they are showing up so soon after his official visit. Also looks like it isn't a done deal by any stretch if they have to work this hard.
Maybe he's scouting future hostesses?
He's actually there checking out their QB Chad Dashnaw. Here's the link, behind rivals paywall.
I used to just laugh at Kiffin when he was at Tenn., but now I'm starting to really dislike that guy. A lot.
This is the second gut feeling that has gone awry after previous infallibility; Tony Grimes was another gut feeling that went all dyspeptic on him.
While I'm disappointed I'm not at all surprised; it's very hard to keep Los Angeles-area kids away from USC if the Trojans are putting on the full-court press. If RR is able to secure him it would be a major coup.
Having all your eggs in one basket is where you get into trouble. We are still in the running for three safeties. That's why you keep on recruiting until they sign on the dotted line. I would love to have Parker, but Knight or Dorsey or Parker would all be good. We will be fine, and can be thankful that RR has continued to recruit a number of solid candidates hard.
Reality Check Michigan fans.... Even on probation... USC is still more attractive then Michigan. Michigan is surviving on reputation alone, and that will not last much longer.
Michigan fans are all happy because the class is "solid"... really? Michigan used to pull in 5 and 4 star recruits... now Michigan gets to pick over the leftovers. Michigan used to go head to head with USC, Florida, Ohio State ect. Now they lose recruits to the likes of Louisville, South Florida, Maryland, and Mississippi. Michigan starts guys that wouldn't see the field with Vanderbilt. Geez, you even lose guys to Arkansas for crying out loud.
You used to make fun of the Spartans, but guess what... on a national level... you have become the Spartans. And hell, even the Spartans can recruit for their front 7. Instead of anybody of note to play middle linebacker, you get players who only offers came from the Mac... and you call them "sleepers". Hell maybe Rich Rod, can get one of the 16 slots you have to play the middle.
Face up to it Wolverine fans, Michigan is not elite anymore. Just accept that fact that you have become Wake Forest. The sooner you swallow that pill, the easier it will be to stomach what happens on Saturday.
i understand your concern that maybe we used to "pull" in nothing but 5-4* star recruits. but go look at past yrs with Carr. nothing really great the last 5yrs. also i might ask "what did all these 5-4* fantastic recruits do for us"? that's right NOTHING! pull your head out of your ass and let RR recruit "his" guys and actually give him time to coach them. if at the end of 5 yrs we havn't done any better with RR i'll help you pack his bags and send him on his way, but for now stop whinning!
Do not feed the squirrels.
Thanks for the insight little bro. Keep up the good work!
The good old days when Michigan's version of the 54 Defense was starting nothing but ***** and ****
I have a membership to Scout. I saw on one of their premium boards some really good news about our chances with Parker, and Dorsey. There is also some information about the possibility of who the next linebackers coach might be. I don't know all of the rules about posting all of that here so if someone else has a membership they can post it on here. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=5502225
FWIW, Cal has apparently unilaterally withdrawn from the Sean Parker sweepstakes.