Scout: MI LB Desmond Morgan (with a UM offer) now a 3-Star
November 16th, 2010 at 11:14 AM ^
come join our defense!!!!!!!!
November 16th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^
...we just have to keep up the pressure on him. He is a ball player, type we need on the D...
November 16th, 2010 at 11:22 AM ^
There is something about a QB who also plays LB that just seems right.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
IMO , it is always nice to have defensive players who have spent some time on the offensive side of the ball. It seems to make it a little easier for them to make the transition, read offenses, and be more pruductive early on in thier college careers. Now , I know this is not the case for everyone but it cant hurt. Especially in a MLB, or DB case.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
The next Tim Tebow...
November 16th, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
...okay then.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:15 AM ^
Is he still pretending to be a virgin? With all that FL tail and racks like that around, I find that extremely hard to believe!
November 16th, 2010 at 11:20 AM ^
I like this kid. I watched him absolutely carry his team versus powerhouse Rockford, just to come up a bit short 13-35 (Game was closer than what the score indicated). Besides being a rock at linebacker, he also played Quarterback for West Ottawa.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^
I really have a preference for Michigan guys to be the 'core' of the team
I want them to win of course, but I like to see guys from Michigan on the field in at least some of the spots
November 16th, 2010 at 11:28 AM ^
Can I ask why not Ohio or Florida or just players that the staff likes more, no matter where they went to high school? Having a core of Michigan players because they are from Michigan seems silly to me.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
You don't get why Michigan should have guys from Michigan?
I want them to win, but I would also like to see at least 25% of the class from UofM
I am not saying 75% or 100%, but I like UofM to be well connected in the state.
Whether its putting on clinics for High School coaches and players or nurturing the best talent, I think the program has a duty to promote football in the state of Michigan.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
They can put on clinics in state and still have talented kids form other states... and they do. If people continue to flee Michigan I think you may change your tune. What if we were the University of Rhode Island?
I think your opinion on this makes little sense.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:55 AM ^
I agree with much of what you're saying, but I question the reasons for such an argument being made. It doesn't seem like the In-state/OOS makeup has changed much from Lloyd to RR, but this has become an issue only during RR's tenure.
November 16th, 2010 at 12:56 PM ^
I'm not trying to be combative, I'm just trying to understand you here. I'll agree that Michigan aught to promote high school football in the state, but I don't follow why you think the football team should have some magic number of players from the state. Fostering better high school football at the high school level doesn't require commitments at the college level.
Student wise, Michigan is a public university and has a certain responsibility to the state's higher education goals and aught to admit a lot of local students. The football team operates under a very different type of rules and responsibilities.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^
The football team operates under a very different type of rules and responsibilities.
I believe the football program to be an extension of the school. These are students who happen to also play football on saturday. The state's best and brightest student athletes should be part of the team which represents the state's premier institution
If there are 2 kids who are equal in every way I would prefer to see the Michigan kid get accepted. If the kid from out of state is better, than he should get the scholarship.
I know the state of michigan does not have a TX or Florida talent base. But I do believe the state produces at least 7-15 Big 10 caliber players a year. I would like to see UofM at least talking to all of these guys. If they do not work for the program thats fine, but I believe the coaches should at least touch base. ( I know it is very hard with time limits etc. )
(FWIW I was irate when we lost Jerome Bettis to the Irish)
Not saying we should say no to the next CWood or Denard. Not saying we should pull out of Pahokee, or Dallas or Maryland or anywhere there is a quality student who wants to play for Michigan.
What I am saying is, the University of Michigan has an obligation to football players in the State of Michigan to at least give them a look.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:29 PM ^
I guess I disagree that the academic and athletic sides of the university have the same obligations to the state. The academic side gets public money from the state while the athletic side does not. I think anyone would agree that Michigan aught to be in on the recruiting of talented Michigan players and that we should be winning a fair number of the top recruits. But I don't see why the school should take the best Michigan students simply because they are from Michigan, because the football team is not getting public funding. The athletic teams should be taking the best student-athletes possible, no matter where they are from.
November 16th, 2010 at 2:40 PM ^
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November 16th, 2010 at 4:09 PM ^
My bad. I never said I was smart, just that I can learn from mistakes. Thanks for the correction.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
I think what he said is perfectly fair. The majority of the student body is from Michigan and so are the majority of Michigan fans. He just stated that he would like it if the core guys were from Michigan. He didn't rant or rave about 'losing the state' or 'not recruiting Michigan men' I always like to root for local guys when possible, and although I want Michigan recruiting and signing the best 20 however many guys they can, I would love it if Michigan was producing those guys.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^
Wanting Michigan guys in the class and wanting Michigan to "produce" those guys are two separate things. The latter is a fine argument to make. I would love to have a pipeline in the state like Texas, Florida or California where those programs have to actually turn down awesome talent. Idealistically, yea it's cool to have local products to root for. But he said he wants Michigan products to be the core of the team. That seems to imply he would make it a requirement we have 5 recruits from MI a year, even if they might not be as talented as kids we can get elsewhere. I'm not so sure that is a wise tradeoff.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
what does "the core" even mean? you want the best players to be from michigan? i don't think you can choose that. you want a plurality of players to be from michigan? i'm sure that will happen.
we all want the best players from michigan to come to UM, but that's because they're the best. i don't want the staff to select players just on geography. the staff has to be convinced the players will help us win.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:58 AM ^
Yeah, I'm from Michigan and played high school football in Michigan, and I couldn't care less how many of our recruits are from MIchigan. Now, I want as many of the in-state kids that we offer to come play for us over other schools, but if there is a LB from MI and one from Oklahoma and the one from OK is better, I want the one from OK.
We've always had great players from Michigan - Braylon, BG, Woodley, Wheatley - but the vast majority of the stars, and our favorite players, have been from out of state. I'm OK with that trend continuing.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
I guess it's better that the core group of guys be from the midwest, but I'm not so sure giving Michigan guys preference should be a requirement. As long as they understand what Michigan football is all about, I'm not too concerned with where they're from.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:55 AM ^
If 25% of our classes were from Michigan, we would be Michigan State. I could care less if there is a single player from Michigan on the team.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:18 PM ^
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mich-m-footbl-mtt.html
out of 117 players I counted 50 from Michigan
43%
November 16th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
"I want them to win, but I would also like to see at least 25% of the class from UofM" (Though I think you meant the state of Michigan.)
"out of 117 players I counted 50 from Michigan - 43%"
Ok well that should make you happy since all you asked for was 25%. Ok? Great. Let's move on...
November 16th, 2010 at 2:29 PM ^
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November 16th, 2010 at 6:47 PM ^
an article that showed that the state of Michigan was on par, football talent-wise, with not California, Texas, or even Ohio, but South Carolina(!).
While it is good (or great if you happen to be the University of Texas) to have a strong base in their home state, to be a national power, Michigan needs to recruit nationally.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:26 AM ^
If he decides to come here I hope he can follow in the footsteps of fellow West Michiganders Dave Harris and Eric Mayes.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^
Don't forget Rob Renes. Same high school. This kid likes to hit and he hits hard. He was born in 1991, and his hame is Desmond. Aren't we a shoe in?
November 16th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^
Don't forget Rob Renes. Same high school. This kid likes to hit and he hits hard. He was born in 1991, and his hame is Desmond. Aren't we a shoe in?
November 16th, 2010 at 2:41 PM ^
If we are interested, and the services know we are interested, we should grab him before he loses another star! :)
We need inside info - if he was named after Desmond, and is from the same school as Renes, it is fate.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:28 AM ^
was he previously a two star or had he not yet been evaluated?
November 16th, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^
He was rated as a 2-star when he received his UM offer.
He is a 3-star (low 3-star at 5.5) per Rivals: http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/player-Desmond-Morgan-104601
November 16th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
does TomVH have anything new about this kid? I know we were a presumed leader for him, and that he wants to take his recruitment slow. But i am just curious to know if there is any new news that anyone is aware of?
November 16th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
He was visiting Northwestern last weekend and was offered on the spot. His stock is on the rise for sure and Michigan needs to lock him up.
His family are Michigan fans, so this should turn out well for the Maize and Blue!
November 16th, 2010 at 12:58 PM ^
Recruits named after Desmond Howard = Hello.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
Seems like the coaches used the delayed offer to keep him motivated and he elevated his play. Great leaders make up for talent limitations and looks like this kid has a lot of heart and drive. Good addition to the class if we can reel him in. We need players who really want to be at Michigan like Desmond.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^
"We need players who really want to be at Michigan like Desmond"
You mean like every player on the team?Or like the vast majority of every recruiting class?
November 16th, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
Kids on this side of the state are constantly told UofM never looks at this side of the state and MSU does, etc. The west side of Michigan is very MSU biased (see Brian VanHogTon). Funny thing is when UofM comes to grab a recruit they like they usually come away with the kid. I think it is very strange that a kid with MAC level offers wouldn't commit on the spot to UofM if offered. I guess the kids is crazy these days... and shit.
November 16th, 2010 at 12:20 PM ^
Morgan is my kind of LB... the old school wolverine LB that will blow up the blocker and still keep sight on the ball carrier.. Check out this clip at 4:56
November 16th, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^
Desmond friendly environment.
1. Desmond Howard - Heisman Trophy winner
2. Desmond Robinson - Heisman Trophy Candidate
3. Desmond Morgan - history awaits you at the Big House!
November 16th, 2010 at 12:38 PM ^
??? Desmond Robinson ???? What planet have you been on this season ?
November 16th, 2010 at 1:14 PM ^
I just wish we could get Desmond Tousaint on the field at some point, and Desmond Woolfolk back healthy.
November 16th, 2010 at 7:19 PM ^
No matter what, I'll always be proud of a program that produced the 38th president of the United States: Desmond R. Ford.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
didn't like Harold, we need to make sure he is ok with Desmond. If so, then I'm all in.
November 16th, 2010 at 6:16 PM ^
That was just plain dumb. So dumb that I will not even edit it.
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