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Scout 300 is up

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=4&pid=88&yr=2013

9 Texas commits in the top 100

4 Michigan, 4 OSU, 5 Alabama.

Thomas, Morris, Kugler are 5 stars.

Dukes, Taco, Lewis, Dawson and Hill are three stars.

The rest are 4 stars.

 

 

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | Introducing, the new and (Score:1)
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Introducing, the new and improved Big 2, Little 10.

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March 7th, 2012 at 8:13 PM | BIG 2 (Score:5 Normal)
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Is BIG 2 also code word for Hoke's golden poop?

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March 7th, 2012 at 10:14 PM | That would be the Golden (Score:4 Informative)
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That would be the Golden Deuce. 

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | Obviously (Score:4 Normal)
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They're biased against Michigan.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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March 7th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Dammit, you beat me to it, i (Score:5 Normal)
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Dammit, you beat me to it, i had made a table and everything.  Oh well, I'll just post the table here.

Current commits

 

Player Rank Stars
Patrick Kugler 25 5
Shane Morris 28 5
Dymonte Thomas 35 5
Kyle Bosch 49 4
Chris Fox 137 4
Jake Butt 147 4
Logan Tuley-Tillman 153 4
Wyatt Shallman 179 4
Michael McCray 202 4
Jourdan Lewis 251 3 
Davis Dawson 264 3
Jaron Dukes 287 3

For what it's worth, Jourdan Lewis is the very first 3-star, and thus I'd guess he bump up to a 4-star in future rankings.

Note: the only two guys of ours who are not the top 300 are Taco and Hill.  I'm not too surprised to see Hill not on the rankings, but I am surprised to see Taco not be included.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | I for one greatly appreciate your efforts (Score:1)
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Thanks man, good work.

So I guess they think Texas is #1 right now and we're #2?

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | I'm not sure because we have (Score:1)
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I'm not sure because we have 3 5* and they only have 2.  Scout is slow as usual so they don't have team rankings for 2013 yet.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:39 PM | The Scout guys (Score:5 Normal)
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had a huge mexican buffet for lunch.  Another Taco isn't high on their list.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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March 7th, 2012 at 6:34 PM | Quality of play aside, this (Score:2)
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Quality of play aside, this class could provide us with countless opportunities for puns. Butt, Taco, mcCRAY, it could be a bountiful 4-5 years.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | Shouldn't Bosch also be a (Score:2)
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Shouldn't Bosch also be a 5-star since Scout always has the top 50 as 5-stars? Why haven't they done that yet?

Special Teams means special times!

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | they get there gradually over (Score:2)
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they get there gradually over the course of the season.  They tend not to drop ratings, so they're conservative at first.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | Usually as the season (Score:2 Normal)
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Usually as the season progresses they add more 5 and 4 stars.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | Re: Taco (Score:2)
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Their explanation has been that he was only a situational pass rusher his junior year, and they don't think he's nearly polished enough.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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March 7th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | That's stupid.   I don't (Score:1)
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That's stupid.  

I don't really have much else to say regarding that matter.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | Well.. (Score:2)
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The top 50 in Scout get 5*s and top 300 get 4*s......so if the rankings remain the same, we actually have 4 5*s and 8 4-stars right now.......ridiculous!

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | A table is something I eat (Score:3 Insightful)
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A table is something I eat off of when I'm feeling too fancy for the floor. 'Round these here parts that would be known as a "Chart? Chart!"

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | That's because Taco is invisible (Score:1)
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I've never understood why being "invisible" is a pejorative in sports. 

I think it is a tremendous advantage.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:28 PM | No way Taco stays a 3-star. (Score:2 Normal)
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No way Taco stays a 3-star. He'll move up, for sure.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | Patrick Kugler (Score:1 Normal)
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Is a 5 star

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | Why so little love for Dukes (Score:1 Normal)
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Why so little love for Dukes from the recruiting sites?  Is he slow?  Does he have butterfingers?  Jammed too easily?  I love the idea of his height on the outside.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | Yeah, especially after the (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah, especially after the smackdown Dukes gave Burrows the OSU highly ranked  4* commit.

'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.

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March 7th, 2012 at 5:14 PM | I'll take 4 years of skying (Score:1 Normal)
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I'll take 4 years of skying over Burrows, thankyouverymuch.

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March 7th, 2012 at 5:48 PM | Commenting on one of our (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Commenting on one of our recruits, mentioned by the OP, is Offtopic.  Another bullseye, mods!

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:02 PM | It's not the mods. Anybody (Score:5 Normal)
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It's not the mods. Anybody with over 100 points can moderate a comment. Also, you're new here, so I'll just tell you: it's pointless to whine over a post getting negged. They don't affect your points or anything else of worth, so it just comes across as really petty and immature. It happens to all of us.

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:14 PM | It doesn't happen (Score:0 Trolling)
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to me (except probably on this post now, of course!) RABLE

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:25 PM | Thank you for explaining the (Score:2 Normal)
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Thank you for explaining the system.  Not trying to come across as a Negative Nancy, but I guess I don't understand what enjoyment people get from downvoting a relevant comment. 

I was hoping I wouldn't need to attach Kate Upton gifs to each comment, but maybe I do.  I'll be back after several hours in google images.

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:45 PM | for (Score:-1 Overrated)
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the same reason people feel the need to attach Kate Upton to get a posbang.

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | I mean, it can't hurt. (Score:4 Normal)
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I mean, it can't hurt.

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March 7th, 2012 at 7:42 PM | Also, whining about how (Score:5 Normal)
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Also, whining about how you've been user-moderated is the surest way to garner more negative attention and negative user moderation.

 


And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!

 

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March 8th, 2012 at 12:11 AM | It really is a vicious little (Score:1)
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It really is a vicious little cycle we run here.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Hills offer list should make (Score:0 Overrated)
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Hills offer list should make him a 4*.

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March 7th, 2012 at 5:49 PM | Maybe you mean (Score:2 Informative)
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Dawson? I've only seen Hill with CMU, UM, and Sparty..

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Scout is really high on (Score:5 Normal)
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Scout is really high on Kugler making him the #1 OG in the country.

I also laugh at their "needs improvement" for Shane.  Decision making????  He decided to come to Michigan.  We all know he has great decision making skills.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 7th, 2012 at 5:55 PM | Yes (Score:5 Normal)
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Yes - Scout is crazy high on Kugler. Lichtenfels says he's the best PA lineman in several years with his combination of intensity and smarts.

Lichtenfels says Kugler is bigger than both Stefon Wisnewski and Chris Jacobson, but is like a meaner Wisnewski or smarter Jacobson. Those are some high expectations.

And he's our center. BAHAHA.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:31 PM | Guess it's tough to tell (Score:2 Normal)
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who our best O-Line recruit is going to be. I knew Kugler was good but wasn't expecting him to be at the 5* level.

Has the whole world gone CRAZY!?!

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:31 PM | Its also interesting to see (Score:2 Normal)
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Its also interesting to see Ty Isaac rated above all the other RBs. It'd be so great if he were to committ this week, starting another commit-apalooza.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:32 PM | Texas (Score:2 Normal)
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Texas is representing.  All i remember hearing is their Junior Day did not net the commits that it has in the past...although looking at this list they are doing ok.

I know Texas is Texas and all, but for some reason I thought they were slow out of the gate this year.  nope.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | They usually throw out lots (Score:1)
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They usually throw out lots of offers on their junior day, but this year they only offered about 7 guys. 

It just so happened that those guys decided to commit after the junior day.  Like you said Texas is still going to be Texas when it comes to recruiting. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:41 PM | Texas.. (Score:3 Normal)
Yost Ghost
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I don't get it with the Longhorns. For all the talk about how well the SEC recruits Texas recruits just as well year in and year out. Since 2002 they've had two #1 classes, four #3, #7, #10, #13, #14 & #16. That's eight top 10 classes in the last eleven years and only 1 MNC since 1970.

By contrast:

LSU has had two #2, #3, #5, three #7, #8, #9, #15 & #19. 2 MNC's

Bama #1, two #2, #4, #7, #16, #18, #19, #22 & two #26+. 2 MNC's

 

B1G:

OSU #1, two #3, #4, #6, #7, #11, #13, #16, #20 & #25 2 MNC's

UM #2, #4, #5, #6, #8, #9, #10, #12, #14, #19, #29. 0 MNC's

(per Scout)

 
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March 7th, 2012 at 4:34 PM |   Also, I really hate to (Score:3 Normal)
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Also, I really hate to say it, but I honestly don't think we have the #1 class in the nation at the current moment.  Texas's recruiting class is looking very good right now.  That however, can definitely change if we pick up a couple key guys (some combination of Isaac, Treadwell, Fuller, Vanderdoes and Cravens).

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | Texas almost always starts out #1 (Score:4 Normal)
Blazefire
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They hold their junior day. The entirety of the state of texas attends and hope for an offer. The best guys get one. They commit. Then the rest of the recruiting world catches up and everyone realizes that the Texas players aren't the only good recruits out there.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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March 7th, 2012 at 4:47 PM | Texas (Score:3 Normal)
VermontMichiganFan
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That's what TExas does- they wrap up the kids from Texas early.

Look at all the Texas talent on the top 100- 7/15 of them are going to Texas.

Texas players:

10- Texas

14- Oklahoma

21- uncommited

30- Texas AM

42- Texas

43- Texas

48- Texas

52- Texas

53- Texas

54- Texas AM

70- uncommited

78- Texas

84- uncommited

89- uncommited

100- uncommited

MICHIGAN PLAYERS

28 (Morris)- UM

99- Elmer- ND

They have a huge advantage with so many Texas kids commiting early and so many top TX recruits.  MI can't just take top MI guys and get a top 10 class like Texas can.  It is harder to get a top class when there are less guys who immediately sign- like the top TX guys who root for Texas and sign right away. 

TX 15, MI 2 for top 100- that's why Texas can put up quick monster recruiting classes and why it is so amazing Michigan is able to do that without the top MI talent.  Ohio State can do similarly in Ohio what Texas does- but not with quite as many top recruits- (Ohio has 5 top 100 recruits- three to OSU, Thomas to us, and one uncommited.)

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | Mack Brown (Score:1)
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it's surprising that Mack Brown does not have Texas at the top of the Big 12 every year with that kind of talent at his disposal.....

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March 7th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | I'm not surprised, he is a horrible (Score:2 Normal)
Oscar
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I'm not surprised, he is a horrible

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:35 PM | Does anyone know (Score:1 Normal)
Blue Chevy in OTown
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Does anyone know if UM is still recruiting Peter Kalambayi from NC?

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March 7th, 2012 at 5:04 PM | Not sure yet anymore since he (Score:1)
ken725
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Not sure yet anymore since he doesn't get mentioned in the same group when we discuss LBs.  His teammate Uriah Lemay is still be recruited as far as I know.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | Does Scout not award any 4 (Score:2 Normal)
Hannibal.
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Does Scout not award any 4 stars after #250?  I'm pretty surprised to see Lewis a 3*.

 

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:46 PM | Yes, if you look at 2012 the (Score:2)
sundaybluedysunday
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Yes, if you look at 2012 the entire Scout 300 is 4 Stars. Also, they always have the top 50 as 5 Stars, so assuming he holds his position Bosch could get a fifth star as well.

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March 7th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Why even make a top 300 and (Score:-1 Trolling)
The Truth Hurts
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Why even make a top 300 and put 3* players on list.  Why not make a top 250 like Rivals. At least they stop at the 250 and they are all 4* players, you don't see 200 4 *s then 50  3*s.  I guess I will folllow the very biased Rivals Rankings this yeasr since we have 12 4 stars.  i wonder if David Dawson stayed in Texas would he have 4 stars now.Also for those who have the time keep track of all of Texas's 4 star recruits and also Bama's recruit to see how many get bumped up to five star status.

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March 7th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | I like that they name the top (Score:3 Normal)
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I like that they name the top 300 even if they're being conservative with handing out a fourth star for now (b/c they don't want kids to lose stars later).  It was nice to see Dukes show up on one of these lists.  There's a big difference between being one of the very top 3-star kids and among the top 300 nationally and being a mid-to-low 3-star.  It's both good information and good that guys like Dukes, Lewis, and Dawson are in the former group.  (For Hill, I think it's mostly about his position.)

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