Is anyone else getting tired of people throwing in these cheesy pictures all the time? This thread has had pretty reasoned debate. This is not necessary.
Scott Shafer's Syracuse Defense
I have paid a lot of attention to what is going on there. Skip Holtz may eventually do well, but USF would probably go 0-8 in the BT right now. Holtz is running an option, but has gotten rid of most of the spread plays. The players aren't experienced enough to cause the misdirection and chaos that it eventually will.
Michigan's defense would look great against USF, too.
decent from 04-07
04- 36th - 339 y/g scoring D 29th
05- 15th - 310 scoring D10th
06- 62nd - 336 scoring D 20th
07- 7th - 301 scoring D 8th
All that is a far cry from now. Casteel may be a part of it, but I think talent and experience has more to do with it than anything
Gotta figure opponent/schedule strength plays some role in those numbers as well.
Akron, Maine, Colgate, South Florida.
Maybe USF is a good team, but they certainly aren't ranked. The one big school they played, UWashington, they got smoked 41-20
Let's not regret Shafer until his defense starts shutting down big east teams.
Picking one game against a midpack Big East team loses validation unless you mention what else they've done this year and against what type of competition.
I think Greg Robinson showed he's not afraid to dial up the blitzes but you see what can happen with our inexperienced secondary. I will take the defensive gameplan against MSU any day provided our secondary and linebackers learn from their mistakes and can improve their tackling as the season progresses. If they cannot do that, then just rush 3 or 4 and pray the d-line can get to the QB before he finds an open guy in coverage.
Syracuse's schedule is very soft outside of Washington, to whom they gave up 41. I don't see this as an indictment or validation of any DC. MSU was one game - let's see what happens this week. Knock off Iowa and we're all happy again.
I think this was one of the best discussion threads ever. I haven't had the time or experience to really understand the problem with M football. It's frustrating that we are losing and not sure who to blame. Defense - is it Coach Rod or GERG(btw why do we call him GERG). Is it the players lack of experience or talent. I just want to thank everyone, that this was very informative.
The blog Every Day Should Be Saturday wrote an article about Greg Robinson when he was coaching Syracuse and accidentally typed "Gerg," then decided that it would be a fitting nickname.
There are too many variables to consider when comparing defenses of different teams and years, even if the common denominator is the same guy (Schaffer).
1, strength of schedule
2, amount of experience on the defense
3. penalties by the other team's offense
4. turnovers and what kind of turnovers made by the opposing team
5 what style of offense does the opposing offensive play
A good point. So we should break his body of work into silos. Let's see, horrible at UM, horrible at SU, questionably good at UT (co-DC), good in the NFL. What part of that exercise changes the conclusion?
From my perspective it's a combination of both factors. While I recognize and re-quote the decimated defense to any RR-hater that complians, I'm however surprised that we haven't been able to develop at least one competent LB outside of Mouton. I am concerned about the technique issue and I think it's position coaching. In 06 we brought on Steve Szabo who did a great job with the LB's (Harris, Burgess, etc) and their tackling improved immensely. Harris was a 3* running back just like Ezeh and we all know what Harris is doing now. I don't know that having GERG coach LB's is the right call but with the coaching situation is with the self-imposed sanctions it's all we got. If I were Rod, I would look seriously into getting NFL-grade position coaches for DB and LB. This would however break his "dance with who you brought" meme around the guys who came with him from WVA. I'm willing give it another year though and see if any of this classes recruits can make an impact after a season of Barwis and spring practice. If the D improves like the O has this year with player development then I'll wait, however painful that may be.
I've wanted Robinson out for quite some time. If RR gives him another year we're going to have the same results. I'm tired of this paper thin bend and break shit. It doesn't work in the big ten and it didn't work anywhere else he's been. The guy just stands there and makes zero adjustments while RR and crew act clueless. With such a great offense it is a damn shame that we can't compete on defense at any level. It's actually ridiculous. I honestly think we could throw together steve sharik and a couple other guru's from this site and have a better product then what's on the field right now. In fact, I know we could. Mgoblog could run the defense better then Robinson could ever dream of.
It has been speculated that RR is the one who favors bend but don't break.
I guess he and Casteel would get into it from time to time, and WVU's defense has been far more agressive since RR left.
I have no stats to back this up. Just things I've heard, that seem interesting to me seeing the result of the last three years.
I feel like Schaffer was in a tough spot from the beginning
Anyone who doesn't think that RR knows this defensive problem may cost him his job is naive. RR knows. Now if it doesn't get fixed by next season, which I believe means replacing GERG who has no track record of building a strong D, then we do not challenge for B10 and RR gets fired. RR knows this and Brandon knows this. Because as stacked as we will be on offense next year, if we don't challenge for a B10 title then we never will under RR.
As to GERG's track record... it's not good. I think we all know that. Shaffers success is just more evidence.The facts have been laid out on several occasions, and he just flat-out didn't work out here as well. It's pretty obvious. Brandon needs to hire a PROVEN top-notch DC and make him the highest paid assistant in college football. Start the search now.
Pitt has put up 35 so far today against this defensive genius. Washington already put up 41 against him this year.
Though I guess he did shut down those "college football powers" of Akron, Maine and Colgate...