I'm pretty sure you don't know Scott personally and don't know anything about his situation. Yes, it sucks to see this sort of thing, but how do we even know that he is the one selling it? there is probably a good chance that he had to sell it a long time ago to get some cash and hasn't even seen the ring in over ten years. I'm hoping this is what is going on and I hope Scott has enough monet now to buy his hardware back if he even wants it (some people don't care about that sort of thing). I may be way off base, but without having any idea of the circumstances, I would rather assume this situation and not resort to unjustly calling the guy a"dick".
Scott Loeffler Rose Bowl Ring
He sold it at one time. I guess we would like to see someone appreciate something that is a rare accomplishment with a team we would kill to be apart of.
Lefty has never hurt for money by income standards for at least the last ten years. There are only two possible scenarios assuming this is not stolen which a pawn store worth its salt would have records of something so obvious or risk their license to do businesss.
1. It is an original that was replaced because of spelling which lefty could come out and prove.
2. He sold it. If we hear nothing in the next day or two, this is the case.
If number two, then there is no reason to neg previous poster.
EDIT: Very glad to be wrong. Who would think an idiot pawn shop would sell an item that could be related to theft.
I found this post on the MVictors blog
Scot lost it four or five years ago in a Phoenix hotel while on a layover during a west coast recruiting trip as a Michigan coach. Shortly thereafter Michigan Football staffer Scott Draper ordered him a replacement ring which Scot now has in his possession. He never sold the original, never pawned it or gave it away. How it ended up here is anyone's guess. I know Scot is trying to get the original back, but I doubt he is going to pay a ransom for it, and neither would anyone else if they had already been given a replacement. Any help with getting it back would be appreciated by Scot and his family. He can be contacted through the University of Florida Football office.
Hopefully he will get it back.....
Can he really need the money?
Strange. Seems odd that a high profile character like Loeffler would want to be involved in such a thing. Doesn't seem like good PR for him, beyond the Michigan repercussions
I would love to see the University buy it back so someone else doesn't get it. Mgoshoe should know about some black ops slush fund for just some occasion
I am the current high bidder at $1717.50.
If I win I will donate it to the Athletic Department if they promise not to sell it.
Slush funds are welcome.
I hope you win. Maybe the AD will give you a few free tickets.
Cubic Zirconia FTW!!!!
All mgoblog members should put in 5 dollars and we raffle it off. That would be exciting!!
Or we could all chip in 5 dollars and Brian could just wear it.
Chip in some MGoBucks to win this thing!
The word or phrase 'MGoBucks' should never be uttered again.
You are so right!
Someone neg me for this grievous oversight.
but do you think Loeffler would accept MGoPoints?
According to Chengelis, on Twitter, Loeffler was still a Grad Assistant in 1997, FWIW.
Also, rings for the players are all cubic zirconium due to NCAA benefits rules. I never thought about that.
It was mentioned above, but I did not put it into perspective.
I'm not positive, but I think Loeffler was actually a player (well, sort-of - he'd suffered a career-ending injury) at this time. I think he was in the same class as Griese.
I assumed the "SA" under his name in the photo in the OP was for "student assistant"
I can't believe that Loeffler would be selling it. Something weird's going on. You just don't part with something as meaningful as that for no reason. It can't be money; he's been working at FLA and probably being paid pretty well.
This will probably start up the "house divided against itself" notion again.
Maybe he just doesn't like the stadium expansion without the troughs.
He was involved in a nasty divorce, IIRC.
Then he should be selling her wedding ring instead or maybe he already did which prompted the divorce.
Can you imagine if somehow is ex ended up with it and is now putting it up on Ebay? That's vicious.
...for some people the memories are more important than the hardware. To each his own.
If only I had a spare $2,000 to $6,000 laying around.
if you look on the ring it says SA where it would have his position if he was a player.
Nasty divorce................come on. He was making 6 figures for the last decade and is tipping in at 240K a year at Florida. But geez, maybe he need the grand that he got from pawning the ring.
BTW, he was a student assistant so maybe it is real.
I was thinking more along the lines that maybe she got the ring somehow and is selling it out of spite.
what jackass judge would give the woman a ring that he received prior to the marriage.
But I would be willing to bet that judges have pulled more outlandish shit than this when dividing assets in a divorce.
Interesting points on Mvictors blog, Loeffler's first name is spelled SCOT, but this inside of the ring says SCOTT? So, is this a fake a misprint? No clue?
Lets do a student assistant. That would be a stupid jeweler which jostens has been know to fit that description before. I had several friends including a Scot who had to send his ring back because of the TT deal.
... but maybe the ring manufacturer spelled his name wrong (Scott) initally and had to make him a second ring and the first one with the incorrect spelling somehow never was destroyed and is now being put up on Ebay by whoever ended up with it. It is listed as "mint condition", which suggests it has not been worn (or at least not very much).
Makes sense to me.
Also, the seller is a pawn shop in Arizona. Hard to believe Loeffler would drive all the way out there just to pawn a treasured ring. Smells fishy to me.
I've been reading this blog since before the coaching change. I can't believe this is the thread that finally caused me to create an account.
That being said. I didn't check to see if anyone had already made my points. They sorta had, but I joined, so I'm going to repeat them anyway.
Two things I noticed made me pretty sure that this wasn't really Scot selling his ring. First, it the seller is a pawn shop. If you make 6 figures and you want to sell something, you aren't going to a pawnshop. And Second, he spells his name with one "t". It's clearly a misprint that somehow found it's way to a pawnshop.
+1 for the insight.
We certainly have alot of MGoDetectives here. Funny that we all figured this out in about a day. Hope the above poster bidding has pulled his bid, just in case.
But I did send the seller an email with all concerns brought up here. I will let you know what I hear.
Thanks MGoDetectives. Your MGoSluething is a thing of beauty.
Perhaps you should voice your concerns to Ebay as well. Perhaps thye can remove your bid because you are concerned that the item may not have been obtained legally???
The auction should be removed....
Scot has been notified and has pulled it off of eBay.
I'd buy the ring if my name was Loeffler.
+1 Excellent intell. I will try to contact Scot at FLA to see if he is going to follow up on this. I will not bid against him.
I will let you know what happens. Stay tuned!
I am current high bidder at $1,742.50.
Mike Hill (352) 375-4683 x 6600
Nice guy. Had no idea on this situation (No surprise there).
He will have Scot call me. Sweet!
Ned, This is Scot Loeffler. Thanks for the call. The ring was stolen 10 years ago in Arizona... I'm trying to get it back.
My response is:
Scot, I can put you in touch with an excellent lawyer in Phoenix, AZ who is my best friend. Are you working with anyone. Do you want me to contact eBay and make them aware of the situation? How can I help?
Stay Tuned, but as of now I am stopping my bidding on this.
Thanks for helping other Wolverines. The power of this Board never ceases to amaze
He will work with my lawyer friend and I will contact eBay to make them aware.
Also heard back from "Pawnmster" the pawnshop in AZ.
Great detective work, everyone. Really interesting. Hopefully he'll get the ring back.
It looks like Scot is making moves right NOW! eBay under control:
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Your assumptions that Scot would never sell his ring were all true!
Who called him a dick and traitor, and speculated about messy divorces, or thought he hated Michigan or were saying he just tried to make a quick buck.
That would be one of our lowest hours. And that type of stuff occurs way more often than the helpful stuff.
You guys and gals ROCK!