Sanity prevails: B1G Hockey Tournament format changed

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

With Notre Dame joining the conference in 2017-18, the tournament has been expanded to a 7 team tournament.

The 1 seed will get the first round bye while the rest of the seeds play in on-campus, best-of-3 series. It will be 7 at 2, 6 at 3 and 5 at 4. 

The semifinals and championship will be single elimination after that. The location of those is yet to be announced, but we can hope the conference champion hosts and there's no neutral site nonsense. 

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Yo_Blue

May 18th, 2016 at 7:29 AM ^

You can't play the tournament for weeks Gucci.  Your suggestion would give the finals participants the potential to play nine games each, just for the right to get into the NCAA tournament.  Not gonna happen.

tlo2485

May 17th, 2016 at 8:02 PM ^

Chicago is probably the most central and also has the most B1G alumni in the Midwest living there, so it's win-win. Michigan fills up the Barclay's all the way in Brooklyn with just local alumni. I'd imagine Chicago could be a similar event with the final 4 teams. For whatever reason, they rarely host B1G events, though.

stephenrjking

May 18th, 2016 at 12:48 PM ^

Chicago is such a terrible idea for B1G hockey that I can't even list all of the reasons. I see what you're saying, but you're absolutely wrong.

For starters, events at MSG or Brooklyn are known magnet events planned many months in advance, giving local fans time to plan and budget for a fun time watching their team--a team that usually plays so far away that they have no other opportunity to see them in person. And it's in New York.

In contrast, a tournament in Chicago doesn't have its participants defined until less than a week before the first game. You don't know if or when your team is playing; even if it makes it there is a 50% chance that the first game will take place during the working day, which would require a late use of time off, impossible for people. And if you live in the Chicago area your B1G school has already sent teams to Northwestern and Madison and Champaign-Urbana, or you've driven to West Lafayette or East Lansing or wherever, so it's not your only chance to see your team. 

So that point of logic doesn't work.

Point two: The B1G hockey tournament does not draw well when played within a short drive of its largest fanbases. It has absolutely no chance of drawing a good crowd anywhere. It has been played in St. Paul twice and Detroit once. The three local fanbases that had B1G tournaments held near them, fanbases that turn out for other hockey events in droves (UM-MSU sold out the Joe again this year for the stand-alone game, see the first point) have consistently declined to attend.

Minneapolis-St. Paul is the locus of hockey fandom in Minnesota, a state that takes the sport more seriously than any other. It has, in Minnesota, a gigantic (relatively speaking) college hockey fanbase, and a sports culture that cares enough about hockey to justify talking about the college version of the sport on leading drive-time sports radio shows. Average kids know and appreciate the teams and the game. And they have what is still one of the two or three best arenas in the country to play in.

If a hockey tournament cannot succeed in St. Paul, it cannot succeed anywhere in America.

 

JonnyHintz

May 17th, 2016 at 8:55 PM ^

While an 8th team is ideal for tournament purposes, it poses an issue with scheduling. It prevents a home and home series with every team in the conference due to the number of games teams are allowed to play.

Alton

May 17th, 2016 at 9:36 PM ^

For a full round robin with an 8-team conference, that would mean a 28-game schedule (2 games at home and 2 on the road against each of the other 7 teams in the conference).

Prior to the western realignment, both the CCHA and the WCHA played 28-game conference schedules, and it seemed to work out just fine for both conferences.  I don't see why that wouldn't still work out for them.

trueblueintexas

May 17th, 2016 at 10:11 PM ^

The B1G footprint for hockey is small enough you could have 1or even 2 series simply be a home and home weekend like Michigan has done with MSU and OSU. This would cut it down to a 26 or 24 game conference schedule which provides a little more OOC flexibility while still playing everyone in conference at least twice.

stephenrjking

May 18th, 2016 at 12:55 PM ^

You mean for the playoffs, or just more regular season events? I don't like the bye-day home-and-homes but back-to-back they can be a lot of fun, especially when you make a trip to attend the road leg.

But home-and-homes are hard for Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Penn State due to distance. It's just a long and expensive trip, period. 

trueblueintexas

May 18th, 2016 at 7:54 PM ^

I was talking regular season. Most match ups could lend themselves to a back to back home and home. A Minnesota vs. Penn State home and home would most likely need to be a Thursday/Saturday matchup. Not great, but there would not be that many which had to be split across three days and still be reasonable travel.

JonnyHintz

May 18th, 2016 at 7:21 PM ^

The 28 game conference schedule, on top of the two game GLI puts you at 30. Then you have a conference tournament that could include another 4-12 games (depending on format) puts you at 35-40 games. That doesn't include any non-conference games (the B1G isn't strong enough for an at large without non-conference) and doesn't include any NCAA tournament games. It's not impossible to do, but it creates some serious scheduling issues.

drzoidburg

May 17th, 2016 at 10:05 PM ^

i don't know what the obsession is with even #s. This isn't multiple divisions like football

i would much prefer just giving the autobid to the regular season winner. That would be real sanity

Sambojangles

May 17th, 2016 at 8:39 PM ^

It seems a little unfair to the winner to miss out on two more wins and a home series (extra ticket $$). If they host the semis and final, it makes up for it, partially.

stephenrjking

May 18th, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^

The one team bye is pretty weird. This beats having the useless play-in round at tournament sites, but it's still odd. 

They really should just play everything at home sites. Every team in the conference has a decent arena. If they're worried about ticket sales, just make all rounds a three-game series.

There's no way to do this, but I would love an actual best-of-five series to determine a champion. Doesn't fit the college hockey format, but it would be a blast.