maize-blue

January 4th, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^

His escapability/mobility/playmaking ability give him a huge edge. As long as the NCAA allows him to play in 2018, I think he's the guy.

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bostonsix

January 4th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^

Especially if we are going to implement the pistol offense. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the NCAA does the right thing and allows him to have immediate eligibility.

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maize-blue

January 4th, 2018 at 11:50 AM ^

I really like Peters and think he can be a very good QB down the line but it took until that bowl game for me to finally see and believe what I think Harbaugh saw immediately. And that was a young guy who was inexperienced in decision making and seemed to be in over his head at times. I didn't like seeing the "not ready" comments but I think they were right.

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yossarians tree

January 4th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^

Look at what the true freshman QB for Georgia was doing last weekend. Peters has been with the team for two years. I believe he has the talent to be good, but either the scheme or the coaching has not brought it out of him yet. Before the Outback I was 60% Peters over Shea to start against ND. Now I'm 80% it will be Shea. 

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Neversatisfied

January 4th, 2018 at 11:38 AM ^

I watched this yesterday.  He is an amazing creator of plays.  When he holds the ball too long he escapes, and finds the guy down field.  This is exactly what a big time D1 QB looks like.  Extremely excited about what Shea can do for us.  

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Sopwith

January 4th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^

Cause Shea Patterson doesn't. In 2017, he threw 17 TDs and 9 INTs, but that's including the first two games against South Alabama and Tennessee-Martin, where we went 9/1. After that, he went 8 TDs/ 8 INTs against the SEC and Cal.

If you add all SEC games including 2016, I come up with 12/8, thanks mostly to that 4/0 performance against Vandy. 

I mean, fine, hoping for the best here, but if he was posting 17/6 against the SEC, we would be having a different discussion. 

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kaz

January 5th, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^

... he was a senior instead of a sophomore who only played 3 games as a freshman.

I haven't analyzed the individual games, but Ole Miss was also 3-5 in the SEC, meaning a sophomore was probably throwing a lot of passes from behind trying to catch up.

Sure he needs more work, but that doesn't contradict the talent

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MGoRob

January 4th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^

I didn’t follow Ole Miss this season, but dear Lord, seems a lot of these clips occur while Ole Miss is getting completely blown out to power 5 teams (including Vanderbilt). Makes you wonder how many of these amazing stats are a result of complete abandonment of the run game.

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bostonsix

January 4th, 2018 at 11:58 AM ^

Shea kept a lot of plays alive by himself. Yeah he made a lot of scary throws and bad decision, but what can a QB do if he is getting bull rushed almost every play. That's why I kind of write off his higher than average turn over margin. He doesn't look like he has the yips as much as it looks like he's trying to make something happen rather than get sacked or throw it away. His awareness looks much better than anything we've had since Rudock

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1VaBlue1

January 4th, 2018 at 12:37 PM ^

Wilton Speights line in 2016: 

204 331 61.6 2538 7.7 7.8 18 7

139.8

204/331 (61.6%); 2538 yds; 18 TDs/7 Ints; passer rating of 139.8.  His pocket awareness was top notch, also - and we were all pleasantly surprised by this.  Give me this QB play from Patterson, McCaffrery, or Peters in 2018 and I'll be happy.  We will all be happy.

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Moleskyn

January 4th, 2018 at 11:54 AM ^

The thing that stands out to me is his accuracy with the deep ball. Granted, this is a highlight so we don't know how many he under/overthrew, but I can't remember the last accurate deep ball I saw from a UM QB. They all either same way overthrown, or way underthrown.

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freelion

January 4th, 2018 at 11:54 AM ^

I hope he can step it up against better defenses. He does look like a good leader though which we are sorely lacking

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MDwolverine

January 4th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^

My completely amateur observations...

  • Strong arm - this is the first thing that popped off the screen and kind of surprised me
  • Accurate on the move
  • Keeps his head downfield when things break down
  • Seems to scramble to extend the play, not just take off an run
  • Varied his touch on the ball when needed
  • Didn't always hit a guy in the hands but put it where they could get it
  • Will be great to watch some of the deep throws connect like those

After this year one of my biggest concerns is the ability to read a defense and go through progressions. I don't think I really saw much of that in this film. It seemed like he either saw his number 1 target and launched or began improvising. His success will all depend on his ability to comprehend the Harbaughffense mentally.

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Arb lover

January 4th, 2018 at 5:19 PM ^

I like your bullets but if you watch him closely, on many of those he is quickly going through at least the first 2-3 receivers in his progression. It's easier to see when he isn't scrambling of course, and he isn't as obvious about his reads (staring at a target for 3 seconds) as some of our recent quarterbacks.

I think I'm most impressed with:

1) his 2 second drop and release on slants or bombs to a receiver going all out towards the endzone. He's releasing quickly and accurately, and that's a hard throw. It's also a play that is run quickly enough that even a 2018 Michigan OL should keep him reasonably protected.

2) his ability to make plays while scrambling out of bounds (even throwing right before he goes out of bounds). That's a great way to avoid a punishing hit and keep a drive alive, and it will be especially key in the B1G because a number of our opponents like to skirt the lack of late hit calls vs Michigan. You can't get away with a late hit on a QB who is going out of bounds, even against Michigan.

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Blue1995nyc

January 4th, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^

I think the biggest difference will not be anything physical but attitudinal.  He plays like a Big Dog and has attitude.  We could use more "Baker Mayfield" types in the program.

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kaz

January 4th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^

Still, reports of his death may be pre-mature.

I'm also wondering about the concussion.  He was playing better than that before he went out.

People keep talking about the OL being down 3 players most of the game, but his play when he had protection was bad, so I don't really buy that as an excuse.  And while he was running a lot, he also did have time on a lot of other plays and wasn't good

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