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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:22 PM | Toney Clemens! What too soon (Score:2 Normal)
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Toney Clemens! What too soon

"Everybody thinks of changing humanity, but nobody thinks of changing himself."                  - Leo Tolstoy

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:26 PM | Is he related to Roger? (Score:2)
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Is he related to Roger?

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February 23rd, 2013 at 8:28 PM | No, but he is related to (Score:2)
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No, but he is related to Samuel Langhorne

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:23 PM | I approve (Score:1 Overrated)
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I approve

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:23 PM | Jerry Montgomery coached 1/3 (Score:5 Normal)
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Jerry Montgomery coached 1/3 of the defensive line for 2 years and a lot people assume he was the DC in waiting?  I'm really happy that those people don't work for the Michigan football program. Holy shit.

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:25 PM | Bring on Les Miles! But only (Score:4 Normal)
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Bring on Les Miles! But only if Saban can't be lured here.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:29 PM | Can we please (Score:1)
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.. get a QB coach now? I think we are set at DL.



Thanks.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:34 PM | I agree, I think we should (Score:1)
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I agree, I think we should pick up either a Special Teams Coach or a QB Coach

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:29 PM | What about Hulk Hogan? I bet (Score:1)
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What about Hulk Hogan? I bet he could recruit well.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:32 PM | I prefer the Steiner (Score:2 Normal)
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I prefer the Steiner brothers.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 PM | I prefer the Sklar Brothers (Score:2 Normal)
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they are much funnier

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February 23rd, 2013 at 11:26 PM | Yep. Dick Eisen too, please. (Score:2)
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Yep. Dick Eisen too, please.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:32 PM | Jerry did good work at (Score:2)
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Jerry did good work at Michigan. Sad to see him go, but I wish the best for him. It's the nature of the beast.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:34 PM | A contrarion view (Score:3 Normal)
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I know that this would not be the usual approach, but what about offering the job to a successful high school head coach at a program that has tons of talent? This would be especially interesting if it could open up a pipeline to a school or area where Michigan has not had much success (a big time program in Georgia or the like)

If they go the alum route, I would vote for Cato June.

Oh how I hate Ohio State!

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:35 PM | I'm not worried about this at (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not worried about this at all in terms of on field performance is concerned. I worry about the recruiting portion of this. He is in on some big time guys that obviously he's going to continue to persuade to come to OU.



I have no problem with hiring a coach to replace him or as others have mentioned a coach outside of the DL since there are 2 coaches already there.



I thought Jerry did a good job with Q and Big Will. Lets hope there's no attrition bc of this.

There is god, there is family, and then there is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:37 PM | Thanks for the great work at (Score:2)
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Thanks for the great work at Michigan. Good luck to him in the future. Now we need to find the next Michigan Man.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:40 PM | Charismatic (Score:2)
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Recruiters are far more difficult to come by than x's and o's men. Need to push his cardboard box out the door so we can bring in somebody with Montgomery's ability to relate to teens and their parents....again, Mike Hart or how's this for an idea...poach somebody else's guy like ours was

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February 23rd, 2013 at 8:59 PM | Love Mike Hart, (Score:2)
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but someone who knows DLine please. 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:47 PM | This is a good (Score:1)
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This is a good coach...however do not forget that Montgomery jumped from IU to Michigan immediately after Hoke hired him...before he ever actually coached for IU... maybe he is just a jumper.  It worked for Saban...

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:52 PM | Opportunity knocks (Score:1)
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For Jerry, he gets to build his resume. Coaching is a small fraternity based largely on relationships, so Jerry adds Stoops as a sponsor in addition to Hoke and he interacts with more B12 and some SEC staffs.

For us, Hoke can hire for specific needs now that he has 2 yrs with this staff and full recruiting cycles. Maybe we really need a coach with ties to VA/Carolinas or some other area to recruit better.

Onward.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:57 PM | Special Teams/QB coaches (Score:1)
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I see alot of posters saying we should hire a specials teams coach or a qb coach but michigan already has Dan Ferrigno coaching special teams and Gorges Al coaching the qb's.

On another note: How many HC's coach a position other than QB's? It seems like Hoke is the only coach u hear about who coaches a position group other than quarterback.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 5:57 PM | Charles Woodson, (Score:3 Normal)
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Charles Woodson, anyone?

 

Not really worried bout it. We got plenty of options and I am confident Hoke and Mattison will find someone legit.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 6:01 PM | How about Kate Upton? (Score:1 Flamebait)
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How about Kate Upton?

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February 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 PM | A few factors to (Score:2 Normal)
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consider. JM is a relatively young guy, and as stated in an earlier post has never stayed at a post loonger than 2 years.  He probably has designs on a head coaching job one day. Michigan and Oaklahoma on the resume probably does not hurt in that case.

  Oaklahoma may offer a chance for diversification of responsibilities that Mich alone MAY not. Maybe a Coordinator posistion, assistant head coach posistion. His recruiting foot print may expand for future purposes ie head coaches with a broad national recruiting base is probably preferable to a relatively limited base.

  Ususally most articles mention Hokes influence on the DL coaching.  Montgomery may not resent that but now he is the DL headliner now, which also looks better on the resume. Maybe it's time for JM to step out of that "shadow" take the lessons he's learned from Mattison and Hoke and branch out and apply them.  At this juncture too much is unknow and speculation is all we really have other than.  OU offered a young coach that has a history of moving an opportunity he could not pass up. On the surface to Mich fans it looks like a lateral move but obviously not in his eyes.  He was offered a competative compensation package.

What we don't know:  Was he encouraged by Hoke to move on for the sake of JM's upward mobility (hokes blessings)

Did JM initiate the contact?

Was the compensation package an empty jesture or actually a good faith effort? (doubtful since Dave Brandons comments on Mich assistant compensation). I'm sure these and other details will surface in the comming months from some thoughtful insider type.

Go Blue

 "Runnnn!!! get to da choppa"

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February 23rd, 2013 at 6:59 PM | Seriously doubt (Score:2 Normal)
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JM intiated the contact when he was recruiting players for us. It was more Oklahoma looked at Michigan's D-Line and said, "Well, we can't get Hoke or Mattison, so let's get Montgomery."

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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February 23rd, 2013 at 6:57 PM | Obviously this hurts. (Score:1 Normal)
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Our brand takes a hit if it really came down to a bidding war.

HOWEVA, if there's one position where this hurts least, it's Montegomery's. Hoke obsesses about the D-Line (remember when he gave a seminar on it), so I'm confident that he'll find an adequate replacement who knows his stuff.

I would have been more worried if Curt Mallory (M alum who coaches the secondary) made a lateral move. Or Dan Ferrigno (TEs and kicking game). Those two had the biggest impact on our defensive turnaround in 2011, along with Greg Mattison and Hoke.

Montegomery will be missed. He was a good coach for us. But it wasn't like Hoke had him for seven+ years and now has no idea what to do. Montgomery was one of the few guys on the new staff that didn't come from SDSU with Hoke.

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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February 23rd, 2013 at 7:07 PM | We (Score:2 Normal)
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can get a good gauge on how great the 2014 DL commit if suddenly they have an OU offer.

 "Runnnn!!! get to da choppa"

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February 23rd, 2013 at 7:52 PM | Good luck to Jerry. People in (Score:1)
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Good luck to Jerry.

We will find out how big a loss this is next year. If our d line play goes downhill, then it was not good letting him go. If our d line play gets better, then not such a loss.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 7:54 PM | For those worrying b/c he was a great recruiter... (Score:5 Normal)
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I know this may mean nothing, and I'm not sure if it's been stated before (didn't see any reference).  But from the TomVH chat/questions he asked the incoming class, this struck me:

3) Which coach on Michigan's staff -- other than Brady Hoke -- were you the most impressed with during your recruitment?

Running backs coach Fred Jackson -- 6
Defensive coordinator Greg Mattison -- 6
Wide receivers coach Jeff Hecklinski -- 5
Linebackers coach Mark Smith -- 2
Offensive line coach Darrell Funk -- 2
Ond vote each -- offensive coordinator Al Borges, special teams/tight end coach Dan Ferrigno, defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery

Only one vote for Jerry Montgomery.  So while having Coach Montgomery leave is certainly a buzzkill, at least he wasn't on the top of that list.  Makes me feel a little better about this.  I think we'll be OK.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 9:02 PM | Vance Bedford!!! Seeing As How Hoke Also Coaches The D-Line (Score:0 Normal)
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I am offering my energy to the universe in hope that they pull the brilliant stroke and bring back Vance Bedford. Sure, he is the DC at Louisville, but offer him a raise and the opportunity to replace Mattison down the road. The defensive backfield becomes a strength in short order.

He developed Charles Woodson fergodsakes.

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win" -Sun Tzu, Art of War

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February 23rd, 2013 at 9:05 PM | Vance Bedford Highlights (Score:0 Normal)
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Louisville
• In 2012, the defense finished in the top 25 for the third straight season. The Cardinals were ranked 23rd in the nation in total defense and 16th in pass defense.
• Louisville finished 23rd in total defense in 2011 after ranking 14th in 2010. Bedford's defense was 10th nationally against the run, 17th in scoring defense and 21st in sacks in 2011.
• In 2010, Louisville was 10th in pass defense and seventh in the country in sacks.

Florida
• In 2009, he helped the Gators to a 13-1 record and a win over previously-undefeated Cincinnati in the Sugar Bowl. 
• His secondary was one of the best in the nation, finishing seventh in the country in interceptions and second in the nation in pass efficiency defense. 
• Joe Haden, a first-round pick by the Cleveland Browns, was a consensus All-American in 2009 and was also named a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award, given to the nation's top defensive back. 
• During the 2008 season, he guided a secondary that ranked third in pass efficiency defense and 20th in pass yardage defense. The group also tied the school record and led the nation with 26 interceptions.

Chicago (NFL)
• His unit returned seven interceptions for touchdowns during a four-year stretch, equaling the team`s total from the previous nine seasons combined. 
• Developed three young talents in Mike Brown, Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher.

Michigan
• Led the nation in pass defense in 1997 and ranked 20th in 1996. 
• The Wolverines` 1997 national championship secondary set an NCAA record allowing just 8.8 yards per completion and finished fifth nationally by allowing just 133.8 passing yards per contest. 
• His secondary in 1997 led the Big Ten and finished third nationally with 22 interceptions, and Charles Woodson became the only defensive player to ever win the Heisman Trophy.

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win" -Sun Tzu, Art of War

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February 23rd, 2013 at 9:32 PM | I'd like to wish him (Score:1)
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Luck. No problem with him leaving if he thinks its best for him and his family.

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February 23rd, 2013 at 11:19 PM | Is the Ole Miss DL coach (Score:1)
OmarDontScare
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Joined: 08/13/2010
MGoPoints: 1541

Is the Ole Miss DL coach available? Seems to be a good recruiter

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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February 24th, 2013 at 1:42 AM | DLine (Score:2)
SKIP TO MY BLUE
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Joined: 05/19/2010
MGoPoints: 453

With 2 DLine coaches as head coach and DC I am sure Montgomery felt crowded, but I am sure Hoke & GREG can find a good coach soon.

"Oh They Came to Bury Michigan, But Michigan Wasn't Dead" - Bob Ufer

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February 24th, 2013 at 9:49 AM | Done (Score:1)
Ziff72
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 5148

Glenn Steele is the new DL coach.  Book It.

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