Sam Webb hints on McGary....not good.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:40 PM ^
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April 22nd, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
Way to turn a positive—having a program that churns out NBA prospects—into a negative.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
Not playing in the league when you can get a contract is throwing away a year of money. Good money. Great money. More money than I'll see in my lifetime. Why throw that money away?
It's not about your first contract in pro sports. It's about your second contract and if you can make $1M playing professionally, training with professionals and against professionals versus making nothing and training against inferior competition, why would you choose the latter? For the possibility of increasing your stock and your first contract? Throwing away that year of earnings and the risk of injury and/or dropping in stock is often not worth it.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^
Don't doubt yourself. How do you know you'll never see that much money? Look at Walter White. He started out as a public school teacher.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^
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April 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 PM ^
I get your general point but Morris has made $2.5M in career earnings in 3 years i.e. more than 85% of message board poster will make in their lives.
If you work from age 23 to 63 you have to make $62K a year to match that. Not bad work for 3 years and for all his "woes" he can go play in Europe, see beautiful cities for another 7-8 years I am sure while making $200-$300K a year. Then go become a normal functioning adult at age 30-32.
Salaries
| Season | Team | Lg | Salary |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2011-12 | Los Angeles Lakers | NBA | $473,604 |
| 2012-13 | Los Angeles Lakers | NBA | $962,195 |
| 2013-14 | Philadelphia 76ers | NBA | $1,046,269 |
| Career | (may be incomplete) | $2,482,068 |
April 23rd, 2014 at 12:06 AM ^
I think it's a huge deal to be a first round pick which means a team is making an investment in you.
the last pick in round one gets about $1M per year for 3-4 yrs guaranteed. the #20 pick gets about $2M per year. and it keeps going up.
i think it's a much smarter play to secure a solid first guaranteed contract and wait one year then risk not getting guaranteed. you are only risking one year of salary to guarantee good $. if you blow up in the nba, the really big money will get to you anyway.
harris and morris are proof that staying the extra year would have been the right choice. both would have been first round picks had they stayed. GR3 and mcgary may both be on the outside looking in.
It's their investment in you - their sunk costs. Their investment of not just a valued pick, but also the dollars they are locked into.
Because this is what makes it so the team has a vested interest in your success, an interest that can mean not just more personal attention and chances on the court, but also more chances overall to work through growing pains and develop into the player that you can be.
Second round picks, the team can take or leave. If you never see the court, who cares? If you have a summer league injury? Adios. The team hopes that you succeed as a 2nd round pick - the team, to at least some extent, needs you to succeed if you are a 1st round pick.
Teams are much slower to give up on their first rounders - second rounders can quickly find themselves in the 10 day contract/NBDL/Europe merry-go-round.
The money Manny's making isn't going to sustain him for his life and the opportunity to earn such money is very limited (players get old and fade away) - he's not rich and will have to have a plan to earn money after his playing days are over. Further, there are a bunch more like Manny Harris entering the league each year - he will be replaced. However, a high first round draft pick is likely to earn enough money to be rich for life as these guys tend to stick around in the league for years (even if not producing much) and if he managed his money properly will not have do get a regular job in his life. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Not bad work for 3 years and for all his "woes" he can go play in Europe, see beautiful cities for another 7-8 years...it's not as simple to make it big in Europe as a lot of people here seem to think. There aren't many roster spots available to non-EU citizens, and contracts aren't guaranteed. Also, living in a foreign country is quite a bit different than just being there as a tourist for a week.
April 23rd, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^
and you tweak it during workouts.
Congratulations on blowing your one chance at getting an NBA team to make an investment in you.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
I can see your point about Harris and Morris, but even with Morris, the Michigan staff can be credited with helping him get as far as he has.
You really shouldn't worry about the transfers. How many transfers has Michigan had over the course of Beilein's tenure? About one a year? That's not at all out of line with the overall percentage of college players who transfer. In fact, studies have shown that 40 percent of men's basketball players will transfer by the end of their sophomore year. That doesn't even account for the increasing number of graduate-year transfers.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:51 PM ^
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:57 PM ^
LLP was kicked off of the team, he didn't voluntarily choose to leave
April 22nd, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
Bottom line: Exchanging those three transfers—Brundidge, Smotrycz, and Christian—for LeVert and Albrecht turned out pretty well for Michigan.
April 23rd, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
It might be how mgobloggers see it but I don't see top level recruits seeing that based on the fact that Michigan still isn't consistently attracting top tier players. Part of that is how Michigan runs their program (cleanly) and I get that. But when Mitch goes, there isn't much talent or experience to replace him. That is what stings.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:20 PM ^
isn't that eva?
That's not quite right. Her character's name was Lisa Douglas, but she said in at least one episdoe that she "can talk Hungarian and do imitations of Zsa Zsa Gabor” (according to this article).
I haven't watched that show in something like 40 years.....does this mean I have to fix the meme or will you accept the close approximation?
...that we've had this conversation at all is what makes us the leaders and best.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:23 PM ^
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As long as you drive.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:51 PM ^
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:26 PM ^
GR3 is in a better position than Mitch in this draft imo. He is built for workouts and combines. If McGary leaves, he'd better hope The Harrison twins and Dakari don't declare.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
I am sure he had a good reason for missing an exam. We should not over analyze this.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^
Losing McGary would be a huge blow, I don't want to sell that point short, but Beilein will adapt to whatever personnel we have. Most everyone wrote us off after losing Burke and Hardaway, and especially after how last season started, and we won the conference by 3 games without McGary anyway, not to mention were a Hail Mary 3 point shot away from a trip back to the Final Four.
There will be no shortage of talent on this team even if McGary leaves. I just hope we've got some solid 2015 big man prospects that have a good chance of joining the fold.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:46 PM ^
We passed crazy with this topic and we're firmly in looneyville.
Soon we'll be in flight tracker territory...and that's simply when I stop caring.
God forbid Mitch wear any other color but maize or blue until this decision is public.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^
Its very possible he is taking a later exam seeing how he missed a bunch of class while with the team at the tourney.
April 22nd, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^
April 23rd, 2014 at 12:36 AM ^
Man, when does any season of UM sports start? This place is like an Irish wake.
Not Cool
I think it would be a mistake in terms of his future, but he should do what he feels is right. It's not for anyone on this forum or anywhere else to decide anyways. I hope he comes back because it would not only benefit Michigan basketball but would probably guarantee him first round status. At the same time, it's his choice, and I hope he does extremely well in the NBA if he gets drafted.
Anyways, he may not get into the first round, but he will be drafted and he will make some roster if he were a second round pick. In my opinion, he's too good a talent not to be able to make a roster somewhere. The thing that he will be risking is the guaranteed three years.