Sounds like this may validate kogers tweet about Greg Brown leaving before the season even starts.
Sam Webb hints that DB is transferring
He is not leaving or anything, far from it ... he came in on a mini-bridge-program thing-a-ma-jig where he hasn't worked out with the team yet ... he's doing okay in the program and I think the hope is that he starts working out soon (like next week)?
But he has met with and loves Coach Hoke, etc.
At this point all is well there.
Dude, that is verbatim copy-and-paste. Not cool. I see you are kind of new, so basically it is not acceptable to take information that is behind a paywall and post it to a free forum for all to see.
It's just about Brown not leaving program. Figured it's not that big deal, I'm not putting all kinds of info from scout on here...if I was doing it all the time then yes, not acceptable. Relax, sorry forgot quotation marks
Touched on in the ZOMG KEVIN KOGER TWEET thread...but all signs are pointing towards Greg Brown.
Dave Brandon is transferring? I knew that the CC would cause attrition...
he finally realized he was in over his head
WHO WANTS SOME PIIIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?!!
That's not the first time I've seen that video but man, it creeps me out every single time!!
That is awesome (and frightening).
shall haunt my dreams
I just came across this video like a week ago. Still good.
It totally freaks me out when that one kid says, "Caramel coconut cream."
That may or may not be the most terrifying thing I've ever watched.
Well...that was horrifying!!
That was weird . Are they the frigging Olsen twins ? Is this that Old ?
"Are you ready to plaaayy?!"
Creepy, yet oddly hilarious.
is that alyson hannigan? haha weird... it can't be
but that video is hilarious
That's how I read it at first too. Gotta love MGoBlog speak.
That's the same thought that went through my head. Now i just feel mislead by the OP's title.
Thanks for the laugh.
I think we will hear some bad news soon.
EDIT: F&%K I type slow.
those who stay......
Yes? Please go on...
may or may not graduate from michigan.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Perhaps you have many leather bound books? And I have no doubt about the smell of your apartment.
Compelling, and rich.
Another take on Koger's tweet could be that it's someone that came in early last year and redshirted. But since Sam Webb is saying it's a DB and I don't remember if any DBs enrolled early last year my guess would have to be Brown. That's too bad.
No defensive players enrolled early back in January 2010.
I probably could have looked it up just as easily. If I recall correctly, Greg Brown was looking around pretty late in the process before enrolling early. Maybe this just wasn't the place for him. Best of luck though.
This is perplexing.
IF it is Brown, it's either a home-sickness issue or being overwhelmed academically. Otherwise, how do you explain someone leaving 1 month into their college freshman year of college without ever setting foot on the field?
Interesting, to say the least.
If memory serves, I believe Brown is a strong student, so I can't imagine that is the issue. I recall some members here who talked about watching him play his senior year and were underwhelmed, noting he got beat consistently by Cheatham Norrils of toledo st. johns. perhaps he is very self aware of his ability and loves the game too much to not be on the field every week the next 4 years.
obviously, like others, I am speculating. best of luck to him (or whoever) as he moves on. Is Brown the recruit his HS coach noted he would let his daughter date? (this and the strong student comment very well may be about courtney avery, i may be remembering his recruitment instead of Brown's).
that was Courtney Avery
the guy getting burned all the time
or the one entertaining the coach's daughter?
I've always thought that it has to be hard for these early enrollees. They finish their fall semester of high school and then while all their friends are preparing for spring semester, and all that it entails (senioritis, prom, graduation, etc.) they are off to a college campus to begin a new life. It's so much different than starting in the fall, when you've had more time to prepare mentally and all your friends are going through the same process of starting a post high school life. I can only imagine that it's harder when you're the only early enrollee at a school.
Hopefully this rumor isn't true and Brown isn't transferring. And if it is true, hopefully Brown doesn't file papers yet, goes home, gets his mind right and potentially comes back in the fall in a better situation, if that's even possible.
I doubt it's due to homesickness. He's from Fremont, OH, which is about 1.5-2 hrs away from Ann Arbor. Not saying BG and Toledo are big time programs, but they would be the only 2 places of note closer.
perhaps he didn't make it into the Porcellians or Phoenix, just the Owl
Feel bad whoever leaves and wish him the best.
But not to be callous or anything, but how does this affect APR? I'm not going to like the look of it for a couple of years.
After I read all that stuff about how he wants to carry on the tradition of Fremont players at Michigan? Don't get me wrong, I wish the kid well. Maybe he just couldn't handle it, and there's no shame in that, I'm sure Michigan isn't for everyone, but still.
How would that affect our APR?
I read this thread title and was all like "Denard Bobinson NOOOOOOOO wait that's not right... who's 'DB'?"
I thought it was Devin Bardner.
Well Donovan Barren already went pro.
Just thank God it's not Dave Bolk.
Drew Bileo... or even D.J. Billiamson
Darryl Bonum look a little too risque?
We should all neg you for not going with "Bonum"--you denied us a chance to snicker like the 5th graders we are at heart.
I think I'll name my next dog Devin Barkner.
Not bad. Almost as good as that guy who named his fish Deshawn Swims.
Knew we couldn't be lucky enough for it to be Brandon.
To whomever it is. I am not going to fault a kid for transferring if they (1) are homesick, (2) simply don't love Michigan, (3) can't hack the academica, or even (4) don't want to play for a coach that they didn't commit to (any may not have wanted to) play for. The only transfers that I have been personally offended by were Borin (because of the whole family values thing, and dude, if you are going to transfer, how could you go to Buckey) and Toney Clemens (dead to me).
If the speculation on this board is correct, and it is Brown, we will be fine. We have a TON of young talent at this position (DB) already, and as a low-rated 3* who, per scounting reports, needs to both add size and work on technique, he wasn't going to see the field in 2011 or 2012. Remeber, we return our entire secondary (T-Wolf, Avery, T. Talbott, Floyd) except for Rogers, and add Countess, who was likely way more field ready. We will be fine.
Was dead to me, but he did rescind his comments and defend coach Rodriguez later, so now he's just another college football player. He might as well have never worn a winged helmet.
I wasn't aware that Toney had rescinded his comments and defended RR. That's interesting. Where did you hear that and when did it happen?
If this is true, then Toney will be first person to come back to life after being dead to me, and I will take your approach that he is just another college fb player about whom I do not care.
where have you been?
The APR policy has only been around a few years. You'll see some sanctions dished out in the coming years.
..then I am ok with it. Don't get me wrong I would love the kid blue, I liked his attitude toward continuing tradition, but we have a bunch of young Db's from lsat year who got valueable game experience. (No they didn't look all the great, but there were some bright spots through out the season, add that to the new 4-3 and coach them up with mattison and Hoke). And we have 3 Solid Db's for this class in Countess Howell and probably Taylor.
If he wants to transfer, best of luck to him where ever he goes, but realistically we could use that scholarship for this monster midwest class were about to bring in, that Hoke is already hitting hard and will only get better when we win some games next season.
I heard that Countess Howell guy is a stud.
..being the only early enrollee. We don't know for sure if it's him though. Hate to just throw names out there but what about T. Jones? I know he switched positions once or twice but I can't recall if he's in the secondary or backfield at this point.
he's back at RB, could be wrong though
this is nearly as big of a loss as everyone thinks it is if it's Greg Brown. I just watched his senior film and i think he is mediocre at best and would have a hard time finding the field
well said indeed.
I hate to see any player go, but they need to do what is best for them. I hope whoever it is sticks it out and sees what happens, but you never know. Good luck to the player no matter what he does.
Since Brown hasn't even had a spring practice yet, how would anybody know he's a "reserve?" Is it possible that it's somebody else on the squad who's already been here a year or more? This is notwithstanding Koger's tweet, which certainly points to Brown...
was that the guy isn't Brown.
I think it's funny that anyone could be called a "reserve guy." Every defensive back on the roster played last year - Talbott, Christian, Johnson, Vinopal, Avery, etc.
QUICK WRITE ANOTHER POST SPECULATING ABOUT 2012 SCHOLARSHIP NUMBERS AND WHO MICHIGAN IS GOING TO SIGN. THERE'S ONLY 11+ MONTHS UNTIL SIGNING DAY 2012.
we have all 85 spots used up this year, 15 scholarship seniors leaving, and 2 redshirt juniors who might not get 5th years (T. Rob and M. Cox). That would be 17, plus attrition (this post seems to indicate 1 extra spot)...that is room for 18 now.
Does Hoke have enough time to put together a good recruiting class with signing day only 359 days away?
Anyone know how many scholies Miami still has?
If it is Greg Brown, I'm not completely shocked. Much like Austin White, Brown had some rumors of character issues floating around. If he transfers prior to his freshman year, then that only solidifies the similarity to White.
Also, I'm not impressed with Brown's talents, anyway. He could end up being a decent player down the road, but an early offer for a player like that really boggled my mind.
Wasn't Brown rumored to have been wavering on his commit? As I remember, he was having second thoughts well before CC became inevitable.
...but that said, Brown is the guy whose loss is least likely to affect us any time soon. He was not going to play early, and we now have significant depth in the defensive backfield.
Does it really make sense for someone to look at the depth chart now and assume you're not getting any PT? Holy cats, we practically had "hey you in row 21, come down here and cover" last year...
Chuck Norris says, stay your ass in school. !
Is he transfering to Miami? Someone needs to put Al Golden in a head lock and......
Sam indicated that the kid was not one you have seen on the football field a lot, indicating that we have seen him... some.
This would not be Brown...
Back to your regularly scheduled wild @ss speculation...
Didn't want to bring this up on its own thread a week ago when I heard it because it's not official, but my friend is dating Brandon Moore and she says Talbott is gone. If it's true, I hope this is the guy Webb is talking about, and not someone else in addition to him.
This shit is priceless. Anonymous player with questionable morals and wandering eye, may or may not leave program, but whatever, in any case we wish him the best on his possible sojourn
This is embarrassing. I hope Greg Brown or any of his family aren't reading the board. Shameful really.
it is pathetic to see grown men trashing our own players saying we didn't need them anyway. I mean all the kid did was give up a few of the best months of his life to become a part of this program
Terrance Talbott is gone.
I've got you covered.
for him, good luck.
I'm hearing it's Talbott who's leaving....Terrence Talbott