FUCKING YES, PLEASE!
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
FUCKING YES, PLEASE!
My sentiments exactly.
If we landed those 5 recruits that Sam mentions. Wow.
My thoughts are that Sam's last name includes an additional "B" and that if we lock up the top overall recruit in the state of Michigan and the top overall recruit in the nation, it wouldn't matter if the final 3 spots were filled by you, another one of this site's blog enthusiasts and myself... We'd wind up with the #1 overall class by a landslide. Think about Ole Miss and where they wound up after getting Robert and Laquon last year. Treadwell wasn't even the #2 overall player and they wound up with a top 10 class. If we have #1 & #2 this year, in addition to all of the other studs in this class, it won't even be close. Hell, we even have this year's Treadwell in Drake Harris.
Ole Miss had 27 commits last year. Michigan could have 10 fewer than that. I don't think Michigan is competing for the top overall spot given the size of their class.
That seems odd considering that we are currently sitting atop the class rankings... I guess it's all just semantics and they'll rank us up until the bitter end, but freeze us out of the final rankings ala tsio in last seasons postseason play/s. Class size is a factor, but it isn't the ONLY factor. Besides the fact that there will likely be some attrition down the road that allows this class to balloon to 18-20.
This weeks RR said as muich. Given our class size and historical comparisons from similar classes from USC etc. that UM will most likely not even end up with a top 5 class due to class size.
Comparing our class to USC's would be a pointless exercise for the following reasons : 1. USC had 12 recruits 2. USC had reduced scholarships and sanctions that likely had some type of affect on how the recruiting sites even bothered to rank their class 3. Michigan's class will include probably include a minimum of 16, but more than likely around 20, a whole 25-60% larger... And last, but certainly not least 4. In this hypothetical exercise where Michigan lands Hand & Peppers along with a slew of Top150 kids, it changes the dynamic completely because USC didn't land the top 2 kids last year.
...if we land that class it would be RIDICULOUS and would easily be the pound for pound best class Michigan has ever had in the modern recruiting era. That being said...I expect to see some more transfers and a class larger than 17.
The current rankings are meaningless in a discussion about the effect of class size on the final rankings. Nobody is close to full right now.
In terms of the top 17 or 18 recruits, Michigan would win by a landslide (with the five Sam lists.) However, given how classes are ranked, the NUMBER of recruits who come in also are part of the calculation, and would make it very difficult to land the top class. If Michigan has the number 1 ranked class with less than 20 recruits for 2014, it would be unprecedented. I guess if we added Leonard Fournette and JuJu Smith and Braden Smith, that could happen, but no one is predicting that.
However, it doesn't really matter that Michigan isn't "Number 1." If we get the recruits we want, especially including Peppers, Hand, Jackson, along with all the four stars (McDowell, Mone, Harris, Ferns, Jones, even Nicholson,) who cares whether we're number 1 or number 6. Those kinds of recruits will lay the ground work for National Championship level teams. And with judicious redshirts and the coaching up by Mattison et al, we'll be in a place we've never been before.
he is reaching for the stars...no question about that.
aren't the same. I'll hold out for the gut...
Exactly. Until I hear about Sam heaving into a toilet or in the fetal position, I'm cooling my expectations.
this is a little crazy right? i mean, this is "best case" scenario by far.
...that would be best case scenario. :)
I believe it's spelled "Samm Web." Thanks in advance.
is that Jabrill Peppers is highly unlikely to enroll early.
He's interested, but since he goes to a Catholic school, it would have to be approved by the archdiocese and his principal/school president is not interested in making that happen. Jabrill will perhaps bring it up again after the season, but don't count on Jabrill being able to enroll early.
In that case, maybe that Gordon Gee was onto something about Catholics.
you are on a roll
Thanks man...just had my lunch.
ever grab the roll in public and wonder what the brown smudge is?
yep... Turd on a roll again.
In Michigan, it's not an arch-diocese rule that I'm aware of but rather the individual school's. At the school I coach, we just felt the kid would miss out on a milestone occasion in his young life: graduating with his classmates, and to a lesser extent - prom. Obviously football is important to these kids, and their eagerness to move on to college ball is important to them. But in the looooooong run - 20+ years down the line - completing the high school experience is probably more important.
If that's the only reason, shouldn't that choice be left to the student and his parents?
EDIT: Lord Voldemort's post below sheds a little more light on this. His reasoning is much more understandable (morning mass class, theology classes, etc.). Walking with your class does not seem to be a reasonable reason for administrators, coaches, and/or teachers to make such a decision for (especially) high-level athletes.
Yes, it probably should, and the ONE incident we did have turned into a pissing match (I use the term "we" loosely because I wasn't on the staff at the time). The kid went on to be a D1 QB for a MAC school, played (and might have even started), then transferred to Grand Valley. He played one year in Europe and is now back in Michigan, working like the rest of us.
And in the end, it's impossible to say if enrolling early would have changed anything.
As the above poster said, that should be left up to the kid/parents whether the high school experience is most important.
In the loooooooong run, getting ahead in college so you can potentially make your mark and earn a spot in a millionaire's profession like the NFL would seem to be more important than prom, graduating with classmates, etc.
Of course, it's going to be different for each kid, but it shouldn't be up to the principal, coach, etc. for those reasons.
Now if the principal, superintendent, dean, or whoever decides that kids shouldn't graduate early because they haven't fulfilled their academic requirements, that's a different story.
In the long run, neither of those things is very likely to matter a great deal. But if either did, I'd suspect it'd be the one that gets you a headstart on your career.
I think you're onto something there
I graduated high school 17 years ago and don't remember prom or graduation. I do remember college and law school graduation, though.
I don't remember who spoke or what he/she said.
I do remember the girl next to me running her toe up and down my leg.
Does that count?
In New Jersey I feel like all Catholic schools don't allow early graduation. I think at mine, you wouldn't have enough credits to graduate if you wanted to leave early.
is that most private schools don't allow early graduation, and it just happens that a big percentage of private schools are Catholic. The people I know who went to Catholic schools largely have a hard time believing that it was technically possible to graduate from my public high school in three years (although I kind of doubt the administration would let that happen, it could theoretically).
Weddings, HS kids graduating...those damn Catholics have to drag everything out, don't they?
Yes, PRETTY please.
Yes, HOT SMOKING MOMMA please.
for images, and I found this (no I didn't spell "hot" wrong either):
Her nostrils flair when she talks.
Would not bang
What if things were way different, and her nostrils were to flare when she talked? Then would you bang?
and I certainly would have no trouble banging either one.
I would do dirty dirty things to Mary Louise Parker. She can take flight with her nostrils for all I care.
I think the quality would be top 3, but the numbers of commits is not there for a final top 3 ranking. I also think this prediction is overly optimistic vi think there will be a few commits who nobody is mentioning at the moment/ unknown. Also, the optimism will Hand is confusing Io me. The last I've read he said he doesn't have any favorites at the moment. I know everybody is excited that his only official at the time is here, but that shows that there is interest.
Sorry if anybody has posted similar opinion. I'm at work and typing between calls.
Impressive restraint or disappointing amount of time put in here...
apparently the latter...
I'm on here much more than I should be. With news as slow as it has been I've only looked every few hours lately.
As far as posting, what's the point when you get negged for adding your opinion.
I spend far too much time...even before I was a member.
All of them get me and everyone else rediculously excited. We will see what ends up happening.
In the mean time, get out your popcorn.
Yeah, yeah, I'm an asshole, blah, blah, blah.
Do you have to pick on every single one you run across?
Before I left teaching to pursue international relations, I taught at a Catholic School for 3 years. You are unable to graduate early from a Catholic school, because you have to take classes that are not state mandated, such as history of religion, and theology, and have anhour taken up by morning mass. That being said, the standard 6 hour school day is taken up by not core classes, that do not allow students to earn the required credits earky enough to graduate a semester early.