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Just a disgrace.
Sadly, they are not the only ones that didn't show up.
....and they had no hand whatsoever in 4 int's. :(
Not directly, no, but it's probably harder for the team to get fired up when it sees that its peers in the student section aren't there - and probably a lot less intimidating for the opposing team. If we want our team to win at home, we've got to do our part to bring the homefield advantage.
Blue Times Two deserves a posbang.
If you want people to show up, schedule well known teams. It's not a fricking requirement to go to the game.
Then sell your ticket to somebody who will go.
to actually want to go to the game, or a net return to be worth the effort to sell it on the street.
There was a serious lack of people willing to buy tickets. I couldn't even give away my extra one.
I bet a lot of tickets were up for sale. It's a hassle to sell student tickets with GA seating I bet.
you just have to know the market. student tickets to cupcake games are worth $10.
They were worth approximately $0. I knew many people who couldn't find someone to just take them off their hands.
I agree with you in general, but this was a game that many students didn't care about at all. According to the friend I sold my ticket to (out of town this weekend, unfortunately), it was louder in there during the fourth quarter than it was for nd last week, so that's a decent sign.
until 30 minutes before game time, when I sold it for $10 to the first person who asked me about it. You just have to know what you're doing.
Read what the guy wrote. He was out of town this weekend. He couldn't hang around the stadium to get his $10. I know for a fact that this ticket was tough to give away. I couldn't give away a student ticket, and tried all of the people I know.
It has never been a problem to give away student tickets in years past, as it was desirable to sit in the student section. With general admission, it no longer is, and compounds the problem of the student section looking empty.
He managed to sell his ticket.
you're right. Akron should not be on the schedule, nor any 1-AA teams. Ask the ghost of Bo. He'll tell you. Best available opponent. MAC as a last resort, not a presumed cupcake.
It sort of is if you bought a ticket and kept someone else from buying that ticket?
and word, also.
Were you there? Because I was and I was cheering as loud as I could. And so was everyone around me in the student section. There may be a lot of empty seats, but there's also a lot of us who do show up and bring our A game as a fan every week.
Right...because all of Michigan's fan base lives in/near Ann Arbor and can show up at noon on Saturday, September 14.
Whiny ass titty baby?
They look just like their dad.
BTW, were titties involved somehow in your userpic?
They actually did end up filling up most of the student section (which surprised me), so I don't think it was any kind of protest. Just tardiness.
For a noon game against Akron on a beautiful day when it would be just as well to continue tailgating/pre-gaming, the stadium wound up being pretty ful. Including the student section. So credit where it is due.
Note to the AD: With the crappy home schdule we have next year, DO NOT schedule any noon kickoff games.
I don't think it's his call. I think the TV networks set the game times (aside from night games, where the school has to agree first). Next year, given the schedule, we're probably going to be on at noon a few times.
GA giveth and GA taketh away.
GA will get the lower rows of seats filled by the diehards, which it did even for Akron. But for the rest of the students, if you are not going to get a prime seat, then what difference does it make when you show up?
Al GA does is move the empty seats around. Instead of being sprinkled around the entire student section, they are now concentrated in the mid and upper rows.
The solution is to not combine crappy opponents with noon starts.
Yep, couldn't agree more. Noon games and restricting student access to one gate is just BEGGING for a giant bottleneck to develop. Combine that with a noon start and a desire to hang out and tailgate as much as possible and the athleitc department is basically begging for this picture.
If it were normal assigned seating and not GA, it would have never looked this bad because they would have been dispersed throughout the whole section instead of shoved down to the bottom. GA sucks for big games in that the students have to get there ridiulously early and then aren't even guaranteed a seat since they oversell, and it sucks for the cupcake games because you end up with a crappy looking section during the first quarter.
I think you make a valid point.
And I will not get into the business of defending GA. I never understood the whole idea.
But the comparison was stark, and devastating for the notion that students are somehow superior fans to the patrons in the rest of the Stadium.
Nowhere else in the Stadium was it half-empty at kickoff, no matter how spread out any empty seats appeared. I think it is giving the student sections the benefit of the doubt, to suggest that they were half empty. They were at least 60% empty when the football team ran under the banner.
GA was supposed to solve that problem and get people to games early. For the marquee games it does seem to work; the student section for ND was quite full 30 min before kickoff something that wasn't the case in years past. For the less desirable games at noon there will always be issues getting students up early and out the door on time. At least GA rewards those who do show up early. They had close up seats to an exciting finish, albeit unexpected.
...the students showed up in force and on time for the first UTL.
It's not GA, or No-GA, as far as I can see.
It is that students do an unusually bad job of being on time for noon games, and are only slightly better for 3:30 games.
One might well think that students would know how to use the alarm clock app on their iPhone 5's. Can't Siri wake everybody up on time?
should have been 2000 dozen.
Doughnuts and beer would be more effective, methinks.
Why should the students show up? The team didn't. The stands filled out quite a bit later in the game.
That's a cop-out. Nobody in their right minds could have imagined the game turning out like it did today.
The students don't get a free pass on that just because the team played like sh*t.
You're absolutely right.
For me personally though, I hate these early season games. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. Either we get an App St. situation, which I was at. Or we get today, which feels just as bad, or we get CMU where all I do is scrutinize the entire preformance despite the wallop.
Really, my complaint is about something larger which is scheduling better games, win-loss record be damned. You get more big games I assure you the student section isn't so damn empty.
I wouldn't say there's nothing to gain. If your team takes care of business against someone like Akron, you can start pulling your starters and getting reserves valuable game experience, as we did in the CMU game. That helps to build depth and keeps your reserves motivated in practice, knowing there's a chance they might get in. Every school will schedule a few teams like this.
But how did the students know before the game that the team wouldn't show up? They should've been in the stands at kickoff to witness the fact that the team didn't show up.
Cut the student ticket allotment by at least 1/3, if not by 50%.
I've believed since before the GA decision was made that the only effective solution is to reduce the student ticket allotment. It's abundantly clear that only a portion of those students who have tickets are enthusiastic enough to show up at kickoff with any kind of regularity.
The people who should be mad are the players on the team, but they've got bigger things to worry about right now.
The players that are getting tens of thousands of dollars a year to go here for free should be mad? They get huge scholarships and are expected to not crap the bed against akron. Sorry, some students have enough with work, projects, essays, and presentations on their plates to be "enthusiastic" for a garbage games. Especially when we arent getting full ride scholarships to go here. Right. Blame DB for scheduling garbage games. But dont blame the students. I dont think you realize how many students come here largely because of the football games.
Someday you'll have a job and family responsibility and REAL work that doesn't allow you to drink yourself silly multiple times a week. Save the woe is me garbage; you'll never have it this good again.
And for that free ride those players are doing all the work you do, plus a full time job that physically beats the hell out of them, all the while listening to whining from thousands of people who couldn't handle a week of what they do.
Well that funny because there have been exactly 0 weekends where I have 'drank myself silly'. I dont drink. But go ahead and just make random, reckless assumptions. That’s cool. I put far more than 40 hours/week into school and extracurriculars, so I'm not sure what constitutes as 'real'.
I know for a fact the vast majority of football players DO NOT 'do all the work that I do'. That’s a laughable statement. They get access to academic support and tutoring available to no one else. They also have 5 years to play 4, so they do this while often taking 12 credits/semester. And those 12 credits will most likely go towards their General Studies or Kinesiology degree. I'm not saying that all the football players are doing this. Some are quite impressive students and I respect what they are able to do. But don't’ act like the football players are sweating it out in Orgo or Calc 3, like your average student.
You're right. They're not sweating it out in Calc 3. They're sweating it out hours and hours every day on the practice field and on Saturdays making millions and millions of dollars for the university. And since Michigan's athletic department runs in the black, some of that actually goes to academics, subsidizing whiny fools like you. They may get it easier in some classes, but overall they work their asses off far more than the average student.
Yo, robreid. I get ya. I was you 3 years ago. I put in 40+ (more like 50) hours in class, study, homework, PT jobs (note: plural).
However, the old guys are right. Even if you are working 50+ hrs a week, you still have it great. Because your "job" is still revolved around hanging out around with friends/peers of your like.
I'm putting in 70+ hrs a week for pay that doesn't leave me with much money to have fun with. And those 70+ I'm around nearly nobody my age and nobody pats me on the back for the extra work I do.
You have it good and we both know that you can spare 4 hours a week. We (alums) were all there and I don't think I knew anyone who worked so much that they couldn't find a way to carve out 4 hours on Saturday. If you can't carve out 4 hours, then you need to become better at time management.
How do you have all the time for that? Isn't football an "extracurricular?" Maybe you need to prioritize those, and if football is so low, you probably shouldn't buy tickets. And it's still not work with a job and mortgage and responsibilities beyond "study and show up."
I like how you get offended at me making assumptions about you, but then go on to do the same thing about players. There are tutors and counselors for regular students. Most don't use them, but there's all kinds of support. You could go 5 years instead of 4. (If you're an engineer that was pretty much the norm when I was in school). And they're waking up for class at 9 am on Monday after feeling like they've been a car accident, whereas you can sleep in and skip class if you aren't feeling great because no one is monitoring and getting you in trouble if you don't go. And you never had to listen to thousands of assholes tell you how much you suck all week while doing it.
Frankly, if one really can't find time to go to 7 4-hour football games a year because they're so busy with school, they probably needed to enroll in an easier school.
You made your point, so stop telling people overand over again how to spend their time and money. That makes you look like the ass, even if our point is for the most part right