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Saban offers 8th grader
February 25th, 2013 at 6:25 PM
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Saban offers 8th grader
February 25th, 2013 at 6:29 PM | 
Absurd. We may need a rule
Absurd. We may need a rule
February 25th, 2013 at 6:35 PM |
How could you legislate
How could you legislate
How could you legislate against it? Saban's "offer" can't be accepted for four years.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:38 PM |
I have no idea how it could
I have no idea how it could
I have no idea how it could be enforced any more than the rest of the NCAA's "rules", but why wouldn't a simple statement that schools aren't to offer scholarships to students before a certain age / year suffice?
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February 25th, 2013 at 6:46 PM |
I believe they have a rule like that
I believe they have a rule like that
This is just a verbal offer. It holds about as much water as a verbal commitment. I'm pretty sure they have a rule that states offers aren't "official" until their JR season? Maybe I'm off on that.
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February 26th, 2013 at 9:28 AM |
Correct. Offers from Saban aren't "official" at Bama
Correct. Offers from Saban aren't "official" at Bama
until a player is in his junior year w/ the Tide. If the player demonstrates that he will see the field in his senior year, then Nick will grant the final year. Up until then, all four-year scholly promises are subject to revocation.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:57 PM |
prohibit contact relating to
prohibit contact relating to
prohibit contact relating to playing at a particular college prior to a certain age. that won't change much because Saban could still invite these kids to camp, but at least it would mean that he can't offer them or say "i could see you playing at alabama one day."
February 25th, 2013 at 6:36 PM |
I wish I could think of a
I wish I could think of a
I wish I could think of a good way to have such a rule. But how do you ban verbal scholarship offers?
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February 25th, 2013 at 6:29 PM |
What did Saban
What did Saban
What did Saban offer the 8th grader?
This could be a fun game. Nick Saban offered an 8th grader...
Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:31 PM |
New air pump for his bike
New air pump for his bike
New air pump for his bike
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
February 25th, 2013 at 6:33 PM |
A scholarship!!!
Oh wait.
A scholarship!!!
Oh wait.
A scholarship!!!
Oh wait. I'm bad at this game.
COYS and lets go Detroit FC!
February 25th, 2013 at 6:42 PM |
This
This
February 25th, 2013 at 7:05 PM |
Winnie Cooper
Winnie Cooper
I was gonna go w/ Darla from the Little Rascals, but I thought she might be a bit too old
February 25th, 2013 at 7:30 PM |
Could do worse
Could do worse
I might commit somewhere for Danica McKellar.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 25th, 2013 at 6:41 PM |
a PlayStation 4
a PlayStation 4
I wish a parent would tell their kid to commit just to further the absurdity of the situation. This kid is still learning about computer porn and body odor.
Proud. To Be. A Walmart Wolverine.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:46 PM |
I think the 13 year old that
I think the 13 year old that
I think the 13 year old that Kiffin offered semi-recently committed to USC.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
February 25th, 2013 at 6:51 PM |
Commit like David Sills?
Commit like David Sills?
Commit like David Sills?
February 25th, 2013 at 7:07 PM |
Ehhhh
Ehhhh
Now days its more like 5th or 6th grade. Get with the times
February 25th, 2013 at 6:43 PM |
this kid must have taken his
this kid must have taken his
this kid must have taken his ACT really early...right?
oh Saban...
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
February 25th, 2013 at 6:46 PM |
David Sills accepted his
David Sills accepted his
David Sills accepted his offer to USC as an eighth grader and has developed into a top prospect in the 2015 class. Interesting to see if he sticks with that especially if Kiffin has another rough year
LSA '11
February 25th, 2013 at 7:23 PM |
Interesting to see...
Interesting to see...
...if this kid graduates high school before Kiffin gets canned.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:48 PM |
I'll bet Saban isn't even
I'll bet Saban isn't even
I'll bet Saban isn't even coaching at Alabama in 4 or 5 years.
February 25th, 2013 at 6:50 PM |
Whoa, Nelly!
Whoa, Nelly!
Apparently Lane Kiffin offered a 13-year old a few years ago and the kid committed. That's crazy.
February 25th, 2013 at 7:00 PM |
GOod job, Son!
GOod job, Son!
Very few guys get a chance to get such a head start on their medical hardship scholarships.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 25th, 2013 at 7:08 PM |
Per Tremendous, LSU offered
Per Tremendous, LSU offered
Per Tremendous, LSU offered this kid previously.
Still creepy.
February 25th, 2013 at 7:34 PM |
Grown ass man
Grown ass man
I tried to embed at a specific time, but failed. This board is more difficult than it needs to be, and doesn't even have spell check.
Anyhow 2:06 for the best part
Edit: Figured it out after some googling. Still way more difficult than the average board
February 25th, 2013 at 7:36 PM |
There is plenty of spell checkers
There is plenty of spell checkers
and grammar nazi's though......
"Deserve to Win!"
February 25th, 2013 at 7:16 PM |
Typical Saban
Typical Saban
He can feel like he has this kid "locked in," but can stlll withdraw the offer if he doesn't pan out. Not very ethical, but definitely very Saban...
February 25th, 2013 at 7:16 PM |
absurd
absurd
college coaches should not be allowed to formally recruit anyone before they reach high school. i can see it now. in 50 years college football will be a game of eugenics. schollies will go out to kids with perfect gene structures before they even come out of the womb.
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February 25th, 2013 at 7:24 PM |
Only Nick Saban can oversign
Only Nick Saban can oversign
Only Nick Saban can oversign across generations.
M'Dog
February 25th, 2013 at 7:55 PM |
Would anyone have a problem
Would anyone have a problem
Would anyone have a problem if MIT offered a 13 year old mathematical genius a scholarship?
The Team, The Team, The Team.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:13 PM |
nope
nope
But that is because the 13 year old math genius can accept that scholarship and make it binding. This kid can't accept the offer, but Saban can hold it over his head.
This is why you can't compare academics to sports.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:24 PM |
How is he holding it over his
How is he holding it over his
How is he holding it over his head?
The Team, The Team, The Team.
February 25th, 2013 at 9:07 PM |
easily
easily
Saban: If you talk to other schools your offer is gone.
There are so many ways that a coach at a big university like that can exert undue influence of a child. There aren't a lot of stories out there about Saban being a kind-hearted individual. So I think it is rather safe to assume that he doesn't have the best interest of that kid in mind.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 PM |
I feel like if this kid is
I feel like if this kid is
I feel like if this kid is getting scholarship offers from Alabama, I bet when he's in High School he'll have a lot of other offers to fall back on
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
February 26th, 2013 at 11:13 AM |
HUGE DIFFERENCE!
HUGE DIFFERENCE!
a 13 year math prodigy knows that he is smart, and having known a bunch of them when I was in middle and high school, and having worked with many of them in math team and other activities, I can tell you that schools know what they are getting.
There is a big difference between a math genius at 13 that may already been doing college level math (or beyond) than a 13 year old DE who has to go against other 13 year olds, rather than high school OL or college level.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:04 PM |
Georgia has a kid in the 2014
Georgia has a kid in the 2014
Georgia has a kid in the 2014 class who committed in July before his Freshman year of high school.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:47 PM |
Damn
Damn
Damn, I was 98 pounds in 8th grade.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:56 PM |
You mad bro! Who cares? If
You mad bro! Who cares? If
You mad bro! Who cares? If Saban is dumb enough to offer a 8th grader than so be it. What's so horrible about offering somebody the possibility of a free college education. Even if the kid accepts the offer he has several years to change his decision. The Jealously towards the SEC is getting annoying. Hoke is building Michigan into a team that will be able to line up man vs man and be competitive against the best the SEC has to offer. Show some respect and class as Michigan fans.
February 25th, 2013 at 9:27 PM |
Lane Kiffin, not wanting to
Lane Kiffin, not wanting to
Lane Kiffin, not wanting to be out done, is currently recruiting the local recess pickup game.
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GO BLUE
February 25th, 2013 at 9:53 PM |
Nick Satan
Nick Satan
Hey Nick Satan!!! You still got this kids back if he doesn't develop? What a scum bag....8th grade are serious. Kid has other things to be worried about. Should be a few hundred rules about recruiting under age
Rudy was off sides
February 26th, 2013 at 9:43 AM |
For The Board's Education...
For The Board's Education...
Here is the opening of NCAA Bylaw 13.02.12 -
"A prospective student-athlete is a student who has started classes for the ninth grade. In addition, a student who has not started classes for the ninth grade becomes a prospective student-athlete if the institution provides such an individual (or the individual’s relatives or friends) any financial assistance or other benefits that the institution does not provide to prospective students generally"
The next Bylaw essentially states that the recruitment of someone fitting the above description can be accomplished through the family or relatives of the prospective student-athlete as well.
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February 25th, 2013 at 10:30 PM |
On his visit
On his visit
I heard that on his visit, some Alabama co-eds showed him their bra strap, the kid committed on the spot
February 25th, 2013 at 10:43 PM |
This is the perfect example
This is the perfect example
This is the perfect example of why an earlier signing period is NOT needed. It will just add to the lunacy of offering kids that are way to early to project.
February 25th, 2013 at 11:47 PM |
This is what Saban saw
This is what Saban saw
and offered on the spot
So hot. Milk was a bad choice.
February 26th, 2013 at 12:27 AM |
I will not be surprised when
I will not be surprised when
I will not be surprised when Saban, or Kiffin for that matter, offer a 1st grader because of his elite field vision and strong arm.
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February 26th, 2013 at 12:33 AM |
That's just dumb. For
That's just dumb. For
That's just dumb. For basketball, or soccer, or tennis you can make good projections from an 8th graders skill. With football you regularly have to take junior production and film with a grain of salt, and many 5-star and even top-10 seniors fizzle out at the next level. I guess he just wants Alabama to be more like USC.
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February 26th, 2013 at 4:59 AM |
Not sure why so many people's
Not sure why so many people's
Not sure why so many people's panties are in such a bunch about this.
It's a genius move really if he turns out to be a huge prospect to say hey we were there back when you were in 8th grade we knew how good you were then. If he doesn't turn out to be anything special they pull the offer in 3 years he goes somewhere else no harm done.
It's not like he's taking official visits to Bama or being shown a "good time" by the current Bama players and I doubt Saban's blowing up the kid's phone every day. That would be something to have a big problem with.
This is much more symbolic gesture than anything else and most of you would be lauding Hoke if he did this to someone that shows as much talent as this kid so young.
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February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 AM |
Not really valid
Not really valid
As hoke points out constantly, he thinks kids need a chance to be kids as long as possible. I'll eat crow if it happens but i never see Hoke making that move.
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February 26th, 2013 at 9:24 AM |
I sort of agree. If this kid
I sort of agree. If this kid
I sort of agree. If this kid was some kind of intellectual prodigy and was finishing high school early and colleges were clamoring to offer him an academic scholarship, nobody would have anything to say about it.
If Nick Saban wants to waste his time and Alabama's money recruiting 13 year olds, go for it.
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February 26th, 2013 at 10:08 AM |
Interesting correlation with William Speight's QB coach
Interesting correlation with William Speight's QB coach
After researching other young players who have been offered scholarships, I found an interesting article on David Stills V. He was the 13 year old Lane Kiffin offered in 2010. The article says that Kiffin was introduced to him through California QB coach Steve Clarkson. He is the same QB coach William Speight flies out to workout with. Posting from my iPhone so here is the link: http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=4888515&city=losangeles
Sorry for any formatting issues.
Absurd. We may need a rule against this shortly. I would have said that was unnecessary not so long ago, but it looks like this is picking up speed...
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<