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Russ Lande (former NFL Scout) talks Robinson, Campbell, and Kovacs

Emphasis mine:

3. Michigan: Denard Robinson, RB/WR (5104, 199 and 4.42), William Campbell, DT/OG (6047, 318 and 5.30 E) and Jordan Kovacs, SAF (5110, 202 and 4.61):


After showing dramatic improvement at the Combine, Denard showed NFL teams that he has continued working very hard at making the transition from quarterback to receiver. He not only went through receiver drills, but also was put through running back drills as many teams believe that while his long term future is as a slot receiver, the fastest way for him to get on the field as a rookie will be as a third down back. During the workout, Denard displayed the explosive, game breaking athleticism that has NFL teams excited. After looking like a quarterback trying to play receiver at the Senior Bowl and Combine, Denard looked like a receiver at the workout and showed the confidence catching the ball that he had not before. He not only caught every pass thrown his way during the workout, but did so with hands and did not allow the ball to get into his body where he had to battle the ball.


Many NFL scouts were shocked that defensive tackle Williams Campbell was not invited to the Combine after a strong senior season and an impressive week of practice at the East West Shrine Game. A massive man with outstanding natural strength, NFL personnel in attendance were shocked at how smooth and easily he moved in drills. He not only went through defensive line drills, but also offensive line drills as some teams feel he has great potential as a guard. After his pro day performance we expect Campbell to be drafted, but what position he will be asked to play in the NFL will be determined by the team that selects him.


Still not assured of being drafted, safety Jordan Kovacs’ good all-around workout made his odds better than 50% of being selected. Not only did Kovacs run significantly faster than expected, but he also vertical jumped 35 and broad jumped 10. He is still not viewed as a potential starter, but after his workout NFL personnel told us they think he could be an excellent backup who excels on special teams.

Link Here. Also discusses CMU's Fisher, a WR from GVSU, and MSU's three early entrees in another post (Bell and Sims looked really good, Gholston really bad).

FWIW: Russ Lande is a former scout for the Rams and Browns. Not really sure about what connections he still has or if he's any good at predicting these kinds of things, so take it for what it's worth.

4/23/13 - Denard Robinson's NFL Future, Part II

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March 17th, 2013 at 1:40 PM | Good to hear about all of (Score:3 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Good to hear about all of them. From the highlights I saw of Denard at pro-day, he did look good catching the ball. Didn't realize he didn't even have a drop.

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March 17th, 2013 at 1:41 PM | Thanks for finding this piece (Score:1)
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Denard's stock is clearly rising.

The most interesting point is OL as Big Will's potential home.

Not mentioned, but hopefully Roy also gets a decent UFA opportunity.

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March 17th, 2013 at 3:12 PM | Will to OL (Score:3 Normal)
Ziff72
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Maybe RR wasn't completely nuts.

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March 17th, 2013 at 6:16 PM | Good point (Score:0 Flamebait)
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Maybe it's time we bring him back...

/sarcasm



No ill will Ziff, I actually had a similar thought when I read that too.

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March 17th, 2013 at 1:50 PM | I didn't realize Kovacs ran a (Score:4 Normal)
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I didn't realize Kovacs ran a 4.61 40. That is actually pretty decent. A tad faster than Mario Manningham's if I remember correctly.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:13 PM | Faster than Mario's combine, (Score:2)
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Faster than Mario's combine, but Mario then ran a 4.4something at his pro day I believe.

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March 17th, 2013 at 1:51 PM | Sheesh, Gholston (Score:0 Trolling)
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Gholston is failing on so many levels and I love it. He is purely taking advantage of his physical aspects and disregarding his actually ability as of right now.

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:24 PM | And you know all if this base (Score:-1 Normal)
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And you know all if this base off this article ... Stop hating cause he went to state.

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March 18th, 2013 at 11:45 AM | I hate him because he tried (Score:5 Normal)
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I hate him because he tried to break Dendard's neck. I hope he fails in every aspect of his life.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:11 PM | for what its worth (Score:2 Normal)
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I really think that Kovacs could be a John Lynch type and surprise some people.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:20 PM | Yes.  They are very (Score:5 Normal)
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Yes.  They are very similar.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:25 PM | i mean i love kovacs (Score:5 Normal)
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and think he'll surprise people but you can't really compare a likely undrafted guy to a hall of fame safety...

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:43 PM | Lol (Score:1)
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Live these comparisons.

Let's Go Blue!

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:52 PM | True... (Score:5 Normal)
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They are both white. Therefore this comparison is valid.

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March 17th, 2013 at 4:08 PM | Great news for Drew Dileo! (Score:3 Normal)
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With Wes Welker and Danny Amondola (sp?) getting contracts this offseason...teams will be flocking for The Threat next spring.

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March 17th, 2013 at 4:09 PM | bunch of smart asses (Score:0 Flamebait)
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They were roughly the same height and weight coming out of college. They're really not all that that different as everyone is trying to make them out to be.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:37 PM | I don't know if there is any (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't know if there is any Michigan player I've ever wanted to succeed more in the NFL than Denard Robinson.

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March 17th, 2013 at 2:45 PM | Good to know that NFL Scouts were "shocked" (Score:3 Normal)
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that Big Will wasn't invited to the combine.  So who is it who makes the determination, if not the teams and/or their scouts?  [Genuine question for those who know.]  And good to know that Will more than confirmed the opinions of those shocked at his combine absence.

[Nice choice of Dilithium photo as the article's illustration.]

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March 17th, 2013 at 3:36 PM | "Big Will" Rising (Score:1)
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Latest Draft Tek computer model has Will Campbell’s draft stock risimg. Now he's in round four to the Redskins with pick 116, and as a first alternate pick for the Saints with pick 106 in round four.

Denard Robinson remains locked in at pick 166 to the Cardinals in round 6, but he appears as a second alternate pick for the Rams in round five with pick 142.

"Mr. Irrelevant" Watch: Dennis Johnson, Arkansas RB to Baltimore in round seven with pick 222.

http://www.drafttek.com/2013-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp 

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March 17th, 2013 at 4:11 PM | I think Denard goes higher... (Score:2 Normal)
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I think Robinson is a late 4th rounder, Campbell is a wild card that could go early 4 to early 6 (IMO), I think Kovacs goes late 6 to late 7 and I think Demens gets drafted some time in the 7th.

Roundtree and others sign as UFA.

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March 17th, 2013 at 3:56 PM | Good to hear Campbell (Score:1)
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Good to hear Campbell impressed.  It does drive me crazy that they burned a redshirt with him, but that happens.  Denard looking good doesn't surprise me, but to hear that Kovacs might actually get drafted is incredible.  

Also, Gholston not impressing has the same resonance as sky blue, water wet at this point.

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March 17th, 2013 at 4:23 PM | The only reason to be shocked (Score:5 Normal)
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The only reason to be shocked by Kovacs, a 4 year starter at M, and clearly a very good athlete, getting drafted, is buying in to the group think of this blog that Kovacs succeeded because he was white, smart, and gritty. Remove your stereotype blinders, forget Kovacs race, and you will find a very good football player.

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March 17th, 2013 at 6:08 PM | Gordie you got it. (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm unaware of somebody "gritting" them self into a 35" vertical leap. That is really outstanding athleticism.

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March 17th, 2013 at 4:45 PM | Russ is connected (Score:2 Insightful)
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Russ is a relative of mine. He does not currently work for any NFL teams, but I assure you he is still well connected with NFL coaches and scouts.

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March 18th, 2013 at 2:09 PM | Also talks msu in a separate post (Score:2)
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Pro-Day-Review-March-16th.html

Says gholston looked slow and not very committed, overall a big disappointment, but that dion sims and Leveon bell looked solid, and even improved from the combine.

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