CoverZero

June 21st, 2015 at 9:45 PM ^

The QB I wonder about is Wilton Speight.  He seems like the odd man out in this whole rotation.  There is a lot of QB competition to come in his remaining years of eligibility.

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Tyrone Biggums

June 21st, 2015 at 10:32 PM ^

I'd expect Speight to be one of the rumored transfers. The fact the he got zero reps during  the spring game doesn't seem to bode well for his opportunities here, but I wish him the best whatever happens. I think Rudock has the best chance to start, he obviously has the best track record but it will come down to whoever performs the best in fall camp. Gentry and Malzone will get opportunities to compete as well. Yeah the freshman will probably redshirt but whoever starts will have earned the position. Harbaugh!

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Bodogblog

June 21st, 2015 at 10:55 PM ^

He was also 4th string at times during the spring, obviously meaning he was behind a walk-on. Harbaugh was "challenging him" to improve, but he didn't put Malzone or Morris at 4th string. He has Fall camp and plenty of time - literally years - to improve, move up, and take the job someday. But right now he's definitely the odd man out.

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Lakeyale13

June 21st, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^

Just can't imagine Rudock not being the starter, or at least being ahead of Shane on the depth chart. His resume of game reps has too much quality over Morris. Don't think I have EVER rooted more for a guy to be a starter in Shane Morris, but don't think he is the QB Rudock is at the moment.

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TyTrain32

June 21st, 2015 at 10:15 PM ^

So we are either going to have a starter the quality of Rudock last year (Rudock), a starter better than that (Morris), or we will have an improved Rudock from last year. I like the situation we are in.



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SMart WolveFan

June 21st, 2015 at 10:43 PM ^

I wasn't aware that he was already on campus and that makes a huge difference in his ability to "mesh" as he said plus you can tell he's focused on it from the interview. Depending on how good the running game is his high percentage low mistake style may be just what the team needs.

Unfortunately until I see a good running game, I'm still holding out hope that plan A, Morris and a vertical passing game, works out.

Of course both these guys will probably have to start some games this year and any combination of Rudock / Morris is 100x  better than Morris / Speight.

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Danwillhor

June 21st, 2015 at 10:55 PM ^

we absolutely need a running game. No QB on this roster will succeed if we can't get at least 3 a carry. The last few years have been disgusting to watch. I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL with 2 NFL tackles & a 5 star HS AA in his 2nd year on campus osu with such futility. Last year was no better. We need a run game or nothing will change.

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Danwillhor

June 21st, 2015 at 10:51 PM ^

where is never seen him throw a ball until the other night on BTN. I could only listen to the game in '13 and even after reading the about him here I just never looked at him. It's odd considering he likely came in to be our guy. Anyway, I have to say that he's better than anything we had coming back (based on last year & Spring) but he doesn't make me think of a game changing type guy. If Wilson is the 10/10 scale bar for 5th year transfers, Rudock seems like a 6ish. Again, love to have him if Morris just can't put it together (!) but he's much more of a manager than guy that can will you to victory. jmho

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Rodriguesqe

June 21st, 2015 at 11:13 PM ^

Guy has that *it* factor. I have no horse in the raise of starting QB, but awfullly glad Rudock is on the team. And i do think he'll start vs Utah.

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Rodriguesqe

June 21st, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

also, it just occurred to me that if Shane thinks he's got the starting QB job this fall he probably isn't one of the the rumored transfer guys.

And if Rudock's classes don't start till the fall I'd imagine he's putting the work in, being that he appears to be staying in Ann Arbor.

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ghostofhoke

June 21st, 2015 at 11:32 PM ^

I think we're lucky to have him and he'll be a great asset this year. The sad truth is that Shane is a pretty bad QB right now and all the potential in the world doesn't really get you very far unless you can turn that into performance on the field. Many guys with a lot less talent and physical ability have made a better go of lesser chances than Shane has had. Not sure it was ever meant to be for him. Good kid by all accounts but we'll see if he'll ever make it as a QB.



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SMart WolveFan

June 22nd, 2015 at 12:38 AM ^

Under 2 different OCs, as the "second" string (less reps with starters), on a team that was quickly coming apart at the seams?

Morris might be such a bad QB that he doesn't deserve to throw a chew toy to Jake Rudock's dog.........badum cha

but to say he's gotten much of a "chance" is silly.

He'll get a true chance in August and if he doesn't start at Utah than he truly blew it.

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BigBlue02

June 22nd, 2015 at 2:45 AM ^

Wrong. If you don't throw some touchdowns and not get concussed by your second start, you will never be good. Especially having a bunch of different offensive coordinators and the coaching genius of Brady Hoke. Let's just write him off because we know everyone else was amazing last year and that offense was clicking and really efficient if it wasn't for Morris. Our running game and offensive line helped him out a ton too, he just didn't seize the opportunity. Probably because he didn't remember what day it was, but fuck him, amiright? I hate some people on this board. Ugh

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ghostofhoke

June 23rd, 2015 at 10:52 PM ^

Maybe. But we're going to find out shortly. Shane got plenty of reps as the second stringer in practice with time to prepare and we saw basically nothing promising from him. I get circumstances were tough and I hope that doesn't say more about him than you're willing to agree to. But my point is that I don't have a lot of hope and I don't understand what all the attachment is. I get it that he's Michigan and committed early, and blah, blah blah but I haven't seen anything that gives me a glimmer of hope. I fell like this board has found one way after another to make excuses for the kid not progressing or performing. I'm not going to be a part of that. Prove it to me on the field and until then, you no longer have the benefit of the doubt in my book based on what I've seen.

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ND Sux

June 22nd, 2015 at 8:44 AM ^

was picked off by Peppers' dog!  Couldn't resist...I'm pulling for Shane to have a breakout year, but glad we have other options.  I loved Gentry's film too, so we can haz QB competence under Harbaugh, for sure. 

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russ1028

June 22nd, 2015 at 7:05 AM ^

I don't think it's fair to assess what type of quarterback Shane is going to be. Let alone writing him off as a bad quarterback. I am confused how you can state that so confidently. Coach Harbaugh said Morris was his guy after spring practices. He had to perform pretty well for Harbaugh to say that. He does not hit me as a man who is going to say things like that about a player if it wasn't true.
I truly look forward to the quarterback competition this fall. I will bet Shane is going to do well.

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M-Dog2020

June 22nd, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^

Shane hasn't developed because of poor coaching and fate. Goes all the way back to high school. He committed way too early and never got pushed to compete. And then he got mono senior year and sat out for a big part of the season I recall. It is like he missed a key period of development ... almost like he was out with an injury. And then under Hoke he didn't get much coaching or competition. Harbaugh is going to help him a lot, but the lack of game experience is going to hold him back. And his balls are hard to catch - 5 star arm strength but 2 star touch. If he can develop more touch, he could be the better passer. I am hoping it clicks for him and the competition is fierce in camp. It will make the entire team better. But ultimately if I had to call it now, I think Rudock and then O'Korn are Harbaugh's bridge of experience to Gentry and Peters. When Harbaugh gets Gentry and Peters for two solid years of development and competition, there could be something special in those guys. Future looks strong and the next two years we will be competitive with Rudock, O'Korn and Morris. Harbaugh will make them the best they can be.

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M-Dog2020

June 22nd, 2015 at 8:48 AM ^

Shane hasn't developed to his potential because of poor coaching and fate. Goes all the way back to high school. He committed way too early and never got pushed to compete. And then he got Mono senior year and sat out for a big part of the season I recall. It is like he missed a key period of development ... almost like he was out with an injury. And then under Hoke he didn't get much coaching or competition. Harbaugh is going to help him a lot, but the lack of game experience is going to hold him back. And his balls are hard to catch - 5 star arm strength but 2 star touch. If he can develop more touch, he could be the better passer. I am hoping it clicks for Shane and the competition is fierce in camp. It will make the entire team better. But ultimately if I had to call it now, I think Rudock and then O'Korn are Harbaugh's bridge of experience to Gentry and Peters. When Harbaugh gets Gentry and Peters for two solid years of development and competition, there could be something special in those guys. Future looks strong and the next two years we will be competitive with Rudock, O'Korn and Morris. Harbaugh will make them the best they can be.

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Champeen

June 22nd, 2015 at 8:51 AM ^

Those dumping on Morris are forgetting the fact that Michigan had its 2 worst offensive lines the last 2 years.  I fully expect our Line to improve by leaps and bounds because we not only return basically everyone, but because i have MUCH more faith in the OL coach improving everyone by a decent margin.

I have total faith that Shane Morris will look much better this year not only because he will himself improve, but the line will give him much more time to set and go through progressions.  Having confidence in your OL is so important - he will not be panicking each time he sets.

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Leonhall

June 22nd, 2015 at 9:28 AM ^

Who knows what's in store, my guess is we are going to have at least 1-2 of the QB's on this roster looking to transfer in the upcoming 12 months, hence the reason why Harbaugh recruited so many. I'm not worried, whoever it is, they will have competed to get the job.



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azian6er

June 22nd, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^

Anyone who watched college football knows deep down within themselves that Jake Rudock is a much much much better option at QB for us than Shane or anyone else that we have for that matter - apart from Gentry - whom we have yet to see.

 

Rudock obviously has the experience and the IQ to perform best at QB as opposed to Shane. Anyone else who thinks otherwise is frankly delusional.

 

That being said, I would still love for nothing more than for Shane to explode over the summer into a game manager and signal caller and to win the job.

 

As of now, however, it is very clear Rudock is the #1 by FAR.

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azian6er

June 22nd, 2015 at 11:06 AM ^

I also heard a tidbit the other day that Shane believe that the guys look up to him during practive etc.  Perhaps this is a reason why we have the problems that we do - would rather have the guys be looking up to someone who is confident/seated in their own ability but not overtly cocky or arrogant about it.  Confidince and unbridled arrogance are tywo very different things.

 

 

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ford_428cj

June 23rd, 2015 at 9:49 AM ^

JH is going to want to get some 2nd string guys some action & experience in late 2nd halfs also - if we take care of biz against teams we are supposed to ...early in the game.

Hoke never did that ...

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