Why is this worthy of a new thread? You could have posted your comment in the comment section to the main page post.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Why is this worthy of a new thread? You could have posted your comment in the comment section to the main page post.
Oh, and also, what do you mean by "doing his thing"?? It sounds as if you are saying that he is going to keep losing no matter how much people complain about it?
if you read my post, doing his thing fits into the context of recruiting his players and not letting his detractors take him away from doing it.
to people like you when he says "I mean, there might be a few people who want to do that, but that's the same people that probably wanted to do that after the first five games too, they just weren't saying it publicly."
IMO it is acceptable to start a new thread to discuss in detail one specific aspect of the press conference, rather than post it in the comments section to a diary covering an entire press conference where multiple players and coaches spoke and said a number of discussion-worthy things (such as "Nick Saban's a d-bag").
I know we're all crabby after Saturday but lets not take it out on each other.
I'm neutral when it comes to coaches. Lawyers have to win their cases, doctors have to save lives, salesmen have to make sales and coaches have to win. Accordingly, I'm "All In" as long as RR can show me he can win in the Big Ten. Two or three more in the last six and we're on the right track. I'd sooner he gets it right because starting over would be hideous and we can all see that the offense, when it clicks, is like nothing we've ever seen before.
That said, please respect the animosity involved in this rivalry. No, no one wants to "Hang" you but though I hate losing to OSU more, for those of us who have to live amongst the fans of Michigan's Secondbest University, hearing their bullcrap for another year is absolutely gutwrenching. So yes, I don't care whether its Lloyd, Moeller, Bo or RR, losing to State makes the fans unhappy and Coach needs to get that and understand. Its not about him, its about losing to your little brother. Though WVU doesn't have an instate comparison (don't say Marshall since MU has never beaten WVU and they don't even play every year) he needs to respect the fact that as fans, losing to little brother hurts about as bad as losing to your little brother in anything you do.
won't Rich Rodriguez please think of me, and what I have to deal with in social situations with alums from different schools on Mondays!!
It's like he's still focused on winning the other games the team plays, and not even taking my daily interractions with people into account!
You sir are acting in a douchelike manner and clearly missing the point for the purposes of expressing your douchiness (which, contrary to what you may think, is not that witty, just douchey).
Some games matter more than others. State is one of them when you're a Michigan fan whether its in football or women's golf. To deny that is to misunderstand the nature of sports and particularly the fandom that makes college and pro sports what they are. Coach shouldn't be surprised if the fanbase is mad. That said, its not like he did anything per se wrong. His star QB made a few bad passes and our defense essentially is what is. While I don't buy into what some of the posters below said (particulary the one about committing Harakiri though the description was elegant), it matters and his quote can certainly be read to say that we, the fanbase, shouldn't be as angry as we likely are. The reality of college sports is that his job wouldn't be the big deal it is if 113,000 people didn't roll up to the stadium seven or eight days every fall and another several million hang on every play at home on the tv. Were the program/coach NOT to care about what the fans think and feel, our stadium would likely often look like Rynerson Stadium down the road in Ypsi which looks like THIS
Now while that is a non gameday - Game day isn't much better as the average attendance is just over 5,000 in a stadium built for 30,000.
It's the hundreds of thousands of people that come into that Stadium, and donate big money to the program, so he can get paid millions to win, not go under .500 and lose to every major team he plays. He may not be thinking of them individually, but their feelings do matter. At least if he wants to keep his job. Because guess what, focusing on the next games hasn't worked out so great for him so far.
I agree, I'm an RR supporter, and off-the-cuff comments are often just that. That said to show a somewhat blase' attitude about the game is kind of annoying. No matter how he really feels about the matter.
as worthy as your comment on the thread
and rightly so. I wonder how much the MSM tries to provoke him as well.
MSM? Sorry but no clue what that means.
Main Stream Media
Whenever I see this abbreviation I always think - Michigan State Mafia even though I know what it means.
it means Main Stream Media and they are a very sneaky street gang whose sole determination is to undermine the authority of someone by asking them a trick question after they infiltrate press conferences.
Do they wear specifically colored bandanas?
You know what, lots of coaches have nice quotes, that make them sound tough, and have that "me against the world" mentality. You know what not a lot of coaches do? Win BCS conference games. I'm tired of losing to MSU, I'm tired of losing to OSU and I'm tired of people expecting me to think its OK b/c RR said some cool stuff in a press conference, or did some good charity work, or brought in some hot recruit.
Win next week, then I'll be impressed and love his attitude. That will make me love Rich Rod.
This is only my opinion, I'm not condemning you for posting this, or others for enjoying it also. You're welcome to think what you want.
"I'm tired of losing to MSU, I'm tired of losing to OSU and I'm tired of people expecting me to think its OK b/c RR said some cool stuff in a press conference, or did some good charity work, or brought in some hot recruit. "
You seem to be really tired. I'm no doc but you could have an underactive thyroid.
Yeah, I'm going to go get that checked out. Thanks.
Rome wasn't built in a day. And Michigan didn't deteriorate overnight. You want success today? We all do. But screaming and hollering like a Toddler doesn't mean mommy is going to run over and make it better.
As I look at the coaches, and the incoming recruits, I am more and more convinced that RR is building success for the long term. He is taking his lumps now. But looking at our defensive depth for 2011, we should be much improved, with the possible exception of the LB corps. Our lack of depth and experience at LB & in the secondary has been appalling, and something you can't fix right away.
Looking to the offense, with most of them returning, with another year's experience and adding Dee Hart in January, so as to go through Spring practice I expect great things from the offense in 2011.
Was appropriate two years ago. Its year 3, and I'm not optimistic about the D next year. I hope you're right and I'm wrong though, but I expect a better than .500 record in the b10 in year 3. Right now we're 1-1. If we finish 4-4, I will be content. My point is no press conference quote is going to change my opinion of that.
I am going to disagree. RichRod is building a new offense, and doing okay with it.
However, defense was never a huge problem before RR, there is no such thing as a spread defense to adjust to, and I have seen little sign RR is doing anything about the defense issue that rolled in with him.
I don't expect problems to be fixed overnight. I do expect a head coach who is getting millions per year to get out there and fix the gaping hole in his program. I have not seen a sign he is doing that, though.
As a RR supporter, this quote worries me...
It's almost like he's saying that MSU is just another opponent and we shouldn't have any other expectations beyond that. I know RR's philosophy is one game at a time, but at some point he should really recognize that some games are more important than others. That's the way of life. This was one of those games and the team didn't show up. Not good.
I would have loved to see the following fire: "Yeah, we lost to MSU. That shouldn't happen and we're going to do what we can to make sure it doesn't happen again."
I'd rather have a coach that treats every game equally. I don't want someone like Dantonio who emphasizes one game over every other. I think we see how that has worked out for MSU the last several years.
The ND, MSU, OSU games are always going to be more important to the fans than the team. These aren't the days of the Bo coaching tree, where it's only important to win those games. If we lose to any of those 3, and still win a BCS game, I'm going to be a lot happier than beating all 3 of them and then losing another Rose Bowl.
losing sucks. Some more than others, but every loss hurts.
"I'd rather have a coach that treats every game equally". Ask Cooper how that worked out.
Why would I ask Cooper about that? What a coach does at OSU doesn't impact my opinion at all. Cooper wasn't rebuilding a program. Cooper didn't coach in the BCS era. Cooper is a complete straw man in this discussion. Congratulations.
Your post is full of fail. No need to waste a history lesson on the likes of you.
Or Dantonio? Are they relevant enough?
Because guys like John L. who don't prioritize the rivalries don't get to coach in them for very long. And those other guys who make a big deal out of it? Like Bo and Lloyd? They have success and coach a long time.
Michigan lost bc RR "didn't care enough."
You're taking your negative opinion to depths unknown
Are you going to argue that the amount of emphasis Dantonio and RR each put on this rivalry game had no impact? Not even a little? The seriousness with the RR takes these games is a legitimate concern.
i am arguing they were not a factor.
Ok, then are you going to say the same thing about the OSU game? That emotions, emotional preparation, wont be a factor? I seriously hope not, Because if that's so, we have 0 chance in that game. It's easy and myopic to say that the immeasurable didnt matter, that only interceptions and drops mattered. But we know that more was going on.
I'm saying I do not think RR "failed to get it" or downplayed the game in a manner that gave Dantonio, by caring, an advantage
I guess we have to agree to disagree. You are taking the evidence (statements by RR like, "I understand the rivalry, some say MSU is our biggest rival, others say OSU is. But we treat the rivalry games like any other game") and are saying that it doesn't mean other evidence isn't there. I am taking evidence such as those statements, AND the lack of other apparent evidence, as evidence, and looking at it as a whole. It's a tenuous position I admit, but I have to think, hope, that this team is capable of more than we saw on Saturday. And that leaves mental/emotional preparedness - not in terms of them winning, but just making a better showing, not getting spanked. It's not hard to find evidence that Dantonio has put a lot of emphasis on this game over the past 3 years. I'm not saying RR downplayed the rivalry, but that he failed to lead this team in a way that "up-played" the rivalry, meaning getting them adequately emotionally prepared. Two ways of looking at it, and I sit content with my perspective. As you do yours.
what evidence is there that he isn't? that he's lost? that's a straw man argument.
And that is quite the straw man reply. Did you even read my post? I admitted that I am using lack of evidence as evidence. But, it's undeniable that RR states that they treat the rivalry games like any other. HIs statement yesterday (the "hang me off a building" statement) basically saying, "so I lost to MSU, so shoot me" is also evidence. Getting spanked on the field is also evidence. I want RR to succeed. But I know he must manage and lead much better than he has been to do so. You can sit with maize and blue blinders, but I will not. I care too much about this program as a whole.
so anyone who disagrees with you has blinders on while you 'see the light.'
now all you have to do is compare someone to Hitler, make a picture of a cat with mindspeak language and pick a fight with someone and dare them to meet in your neighborhood and you've covered all internet memes.
he lost to a good MSU team with a decent UM team. it happens. you're acting like Carr used to set fire to a Spartan doll before each game and now RR is scheduling family vacations the 5 days leading up to the MSU game. a lack of wins =/= not taking the game seriously. you act like the guy's job isn't in jeopardy and he's just dinking around
Seriously? Resorting to extreme, somewhat nonsensical caricatures of my position does nothing for your argument. Talk about a straw man.
"he lost to a good MSU team with a decent UM team. it happens."
"you're acting like Carr used to set fire to a Spartan doll before each game and now RR is scheduling family vacations the 5 days leading up to the MSU game."
"a lack of wins =/= not taking the game seriously."
"you act like the guy's job isn't in jeopardy and he's just dinking around"
GB, you have truly been a waste of time.
is a bit offputting. you seem to think the game was an up and down ass whipping. i see it differently. mistakes were made but this was not 47-3. this was a team losing by 17 after making two crucial red zone INTs and a flat out drop. MSU won and deservedly so. you just seem to be taking it a bit harder than I am. you summarily point to a score while i see a lot of different things in the game that make me not as despondent. you were better off at the "we have different opinions" stage than the "i'm a waste of time" stage. you've not pointed to any specific elements that prove RR didn't take it seriously other than the scoreboard. sorry but i require a bit more to feel a valid or compelling argument has been made.
How about this - let's move on to Iowa. I think I am ready to stop dwelling on MSU.
I really liked the second part of that quote. I also liked how he dismissed that faction and its bleatings as "drama" later in the presser.
I am seeing a lot fo confidence here. This sounds a lot more like a "man with a plan" than it does a "coach on the hot seat."
For example, when I look at the remaining games on the schedule, I see teams that I think "should be" wins and teams that "should be" losses, but then I get to the OSU game and think: this game is a toss-up, throw out records, throw out rankings. If Michigan comes out wanting to win that game more than OSU, then Michigan will win that game. I tend to think guys have more desire in a huge rivalry game like that, which is why I refuse to "count" that game as a loss when I look at the remaining schedule. There's a huge emotional part of the game of football, and I would hope that everyone associated with the team would show that much more fire and determination against hated rivals.
It irks them that we acknowledge OSU as our biggest rival. I had a friend who went to State validate MSU/UM as a bigger rivalry because it's the whole state that's involved. I just said okay and moved on.
I would rather the team get over the State game by now and focus on beating Iowa and getting bowl eligible at home and against a darn good football team. I'm sure the Hawkeyes would love to hear the coach and players grumbling about the previous game.
Do you honestly think that because some fans can't get over the fact that we lost to MSU and complain and groan about for days means that the team isn't focused?
"I would rather the team get over the State game by now and focus on beating Iowa and getting bowl eligible at home and against a darn good football team."
I see quotes like this all the time on this blog and laugh because they are responding to posts on the blog, yet they conclude that the team must be equally focused (or unfocused as it were) on the same things we are discussing.
Either that, or they really think that what we do and say on this blog really impacts the team. Either way it is kind of silly.
Now say this after me.......WHAT I THINK, SAY AND DO HAS NO EFFECT ON HOW THE WOLVERINES PLAY ON SATURDAYS!!!!!
What? No 'Haters Gonna Hate' references? I'm disappointed.
maybe we're still hung over from the loss...
These things are played out and are just distracting. Please stop.
Ok, that was funny.
You are played out!!
Way to come through, guys!. Now I feel closer to normality.
Dear Coach Rodriguez,
Thank you for your kind offer of auto-asphyxiation (non-erotic) after this most recent loss to our friends in the North. It should be noted, however, that Michigan-style atonement requires a full display of traditional seppuku or hara-kiri. Dressed in ceremonial all-white funeral robes you will kneel atop a snow-white tatami mat, itself covered with crushed red velvet. After you profess your shame – which will haunt your descendants unto eternity – David Brandon will offer you a nod, which you should take as a “go-ahead” signal. Kindly unsheathe your short sword and plunge it into your lower abdomen. Please cut across and then upwards before major shock sets in. Once you have completed this exercise, the officially-appointed kaishaku (most likely Lloyd Carr, though we’ve been hearing good things about Gary Moeller) will provide you with the supreme honor of decapitation.
In the alternative, please start winning some of these games.
Very truly yours, etc.
Well, this does nothing to restore my confidence. It seems like he still doesn't understand the rivalry.
And he's wrong, the same people who might want to hang him off a building now are not entirely the same who wanted to after the first five games. He is converting some. And his failure to appreciate that is troubling.
I wish he had said,
Dude is frustrated... he went off a bit... so what..
I love the non-coach speak... but the MSM gets so carried away waiting to pounce.. it disappears...(I'm a member of the MSM).
I'd be frustrated too if I won all the games I was supposed to win... and brought in recruits who left the program or got hurt... what can he do?... Yes some will say recruit better... some will say recruit better kids with better shots of getting into UM..
For the school and fans..that's fine.. but this is the dude's job and life.. he's gotta win.. taking a shot on a kid like Dorsey is what he needs to do to survive in this game... especially here where nobody gave him a shot from the beggining.... it's frustrating...
People are looking for ways to kill this guy and I'm sick of it... lets support the man and help him get the job done.. not deter.
Ok, but... I... am not... sure... why this was... in response... to.... my... statement.
about that.. oops.. hit the wrong button...sorry.. although I do disagree with you as well... I sometimes think we take coach speak way to seriously no matter what it is.
becuase your comment was on the other side of this "issue"... I don't understand why you don't understand why it was a response to your statement.
If he said that would you be able to sleep better tonight.. Wow!!!
I think he gets that losing to the Juggalos down the street should sting as a loss. But there's no reason that it should be regarded as some kind of dark cloud over an otherwise successful season in progress. Win nine games this year and I don't care about MSU (especially if OSU goes down). As far as I'm concerned, as long as team is otherwise successful, a single loss to any team stings but it should not affect RR's job security.
I don't care about MSU if we beat OSU. Well, yeah, sure. Mighty big IF, but I think 99.9% of the fanbase is down with that. Problem is, the MSU game was a whole hell of a lot easier to win. It's not a single loss to a team, because yes, if the team goes 11-1, wow, who cares about State? But the idea that there will be more losses, because, we all realize this isn't a National Championship squad, and it'd be nice to beat some good teams as well as bad, and maybe good rivals. Because it may satisfy for this year, but regularly going 6-2 in the Big Ten but losing to MSU and OSU doesn't generally sound so hot.
plus one to you...
Don't wanna hang him off a building, but it would be nice if he started 1) winning some Big Ten games, and 2) beating in-conference rivals. Not a fan of this quote one bit. Sure there are people out there that hate him (i.e. haters gonna hate) and nothing is going to change that. However, there are people that want and want to like him, but games like we saw Saturday make that awful difficult.
And I agree with those who say he doesn't seem to understand the importance of the rivalry. If MSU loses to us, Dantonio would probably want to hang himself off a building. Rodriguez does seem to treat it like any other game, and that's a mistake with the way this rivalry is now.
You misunderstood the joke. The thrust of the joke is not "we lost to MSU, big deal." The joke is "we lost to our rival, am I going to be executed?" The joke conveys the opposite of not thinking the game is a big deal.
Do you think we've beaten ND twice now because RR "gets" that rivalry better than MSU? I honestly find it hard to put myself inside the brain of a "he doesn't understand the rivalry" person.
Do you want an MSU clock in our weight room? Would that do it?
Do you want an MSU clock in our weight room?
Love it! let's get a weightroom clock counting down the days until our third biggest rivlary! lol
I honestly find it hard to put myself inside the brain of a "he doesn't understand the rivalry" person.
The more such people talk, I notice that "understanding the rivalry" means throwing out meaningless platitudes about its importance, whether or not such platitudes are at all relevant to the discussion at hand. It also means ostentatious gimmicks like the one you suggest. I think they really would prefer that there's a little countdown clock in the locker room for MSU or OSU (incidentally, I think those that care more about the ND rivalry than the MSU rivalry tend to fall on the side against such gimmicks). An analogue to "understand the rivalry" types are those who vote for the politician who most fits their idea of a drinking buddy than for his or her record or beliefs. The goddamn rivalry's important — to us, to the players, and to the coach who's trying to keep his job and cement a spot in that rivalry's legacy. We don't need a bunch of stilted lip service, self-flagellating histrionics, or stupid gimmicks to know that the coach wants to win football games. He "gets" it. Everybody does.
I understand what he was trying to express, but it will be portrayed in the media as indicating he doesn't "get" the MSU rivalry.
ALL SHUT THE FU@% UP AND LET THE SEASON PLAY ITS SELF OUT!!!! WE WILL BEAT IOWA THIS WEEK. LETS GET BEHIND THE TEAM, THE TEAM, THE TEAM.
Fu*& YEAH!!!! I"M ALL IN BRO!!!! KICK IOWA"S ASS & SEND THE FU*%ING PACKING!!!!!!!
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!
Seriously though I don't know what you would rather him do? I'm pretty sure the "he still doesn't get the rivalry" is over played. He gets millions to coach a sport in which he is to win every game. I'm sure he gets it. I'd gladly take the acknowledgement that people still don't back him but he has a job to do to prove them all wrong. That some want him fired for dropping 3 to MSU. Screw them he's looking on to Iowa now and to rebuilding the D and getting to a bowl. Thats what I want in my coach.
I suspect that the criticism gets to him. It got to Lloyd too, and his response was to be cantankerous. I like this approach better, but the best approach is to ignore the barking dog.
If you told me in August Michigan would start 5-1, I would have been thrilled. Any expectation beyond that was not reasonable.
Sure, it's a rivalry. He knows that. Why is he going to talk about them like they're important?
What's next? Install a clock?
If you only got 3 hours of sleep a night, and then lost to MSU the way we did, you'd be pretty fucking irritated, too, and say some stuff that you might regret later. IMHE, I don't hear him not taking the rivalry seriously; I just hear defensiveness.
He obviously doesn't know how to handle the media. Couple this quote with the one telling Michigan fans that they need to get a life and it's very very bad. He's not doing himself any favors.
Given your point total, I'm assuming sarcasm because that "Get a life" quote has been well explained.
you wouldn't be satisfied with anything coach rod does.... you sir are what we call a hater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your first 5 hours of MGoBlog membership have been awesome, keep up the good work.
Big RR supporter here, and want to see his system succeed. Even I have to admit, he's seemed to stacked the offense recruit-wise, whilst...yes, I used the word "whilst"....neglecting the D. Or if not neglecting, they have been back burner compared to the offense. Maybe because of the nature of the offense, he needs to be stacked with running backs and receivers, but geez, throw us a LB or two or three. I'd give my left hooha for another Lamar Woodley, and I think most M fans feel the same.
Here's to outscoring people, which we will have to do. Love Denard, he just had a bad game on Saturday, it happens, if the Offense gets back in gear and plays like it is capable, I think M can beat Iowa....Go Blue!!
I'd give my left hooha for another Lamar Woodley, and I think most M fans feel the same.
I don't feel exactly the same. I would actually give your left AND your right hooha for another Lamar Woodley.
The fact that he is vanilla publicly about certain opponents doesn't mean he isn't emphasizing MSU or Ohio State in private with the team.
Him over emphasizing MSU could have lead Denard to grip the ball too hard and miss those throws for all we really know.
My issue with this team as it relates to the staff is the lousy tackling. I talk to guys who played the game as high school stars or in college. There hasn't been one that didn't answer "coaching" when asked the question "What causes a team to be noticably poor at tackling?"
Rodriguez was a safety and pretty good one in college. He's coached good defensive teams. He sees these deficiencies. This offense has corrected from 08 to most everyone's liking. A guy who can lead that sort of leap in progress, can be relied on to address problems and make them strengths.
5-1 at the turn with more paybacks to inflict. This is a pissed off and very determined group of guys. Losing hurts them and they hate it. That's good for some more suprises.
The fact that he is vanilla publicly about certain opponents doesn't mean he isn't emphasizing MSU or Ohio State in private with the team.
Bingo. You'd think more people would realize this. I've never understood why fans scrutinize everything a coach says in a press conference, looking for hidden meaning.
This is true, but at the same time what a coach says to the public is often meant for the team. This is true in all major sports. Making a public statement about how important it is to beat a rivalry (in that season or in the next) speaks volumes to the team. For example, didn't you hear some of the MSU players comment on how Dantonio's reaction to Mike Hart's comments bolstered how they felt about their coach and about beating UM?
I don't think that's how RR operates. He has a public persona, for the media, and a private persona, in front of his team.
I thought this site was for Michigan fans?! All I have heard since we lost is fire RR, the spread is dead, and we can't recruit!!
FOR ALL THOSE THAT CAN"T BE ALL IN FOR MICHIGAN:
Join OSU or MSU they always have room for more Douche bags!!
Anybody can stand in and cheer for a team that wins but only a real fan stands by his team when they lose and cheer them on and encourage them to get back up and beat the next team
Imagine if you actually looked at the quote and not just a part of it.
I've got great support here. I thought the crowd was terrific. The support was unbelievable. I've got great support here at the university, you know. Dave Brandon, Mary Sue Coleman have been very, very supportive, the alumni, the former players, they all do. Everybody wants the same thing here. Whether we lost to Michigan State, what do you want, to take me and hang me off the building now? There might be a few people that want to do that, but it's the same people that probably wanted to do that after the first five games, too. They just weren't saying it publicly.
He isn't downgrading the loss, he is just saying the people bashing him are the same people that bashed him all along, they were just waiting for a loss to do it. If you think he doesn't get the rivalry and doesn't want to win than you my friend are an wrong. I think he is just fed up with the people bashing him and using this loss as a reason to again start the fire RR campaign, and they are the same people that wanted him gone but couldn't get support when the team was winning. If they were 11-0 and lost to OSU these people would still be bashing him, that's his point.
And what do I have to show for it? no wins against Sparty and constant bullshit from my friends. Sorry if we seem a little pissed, Rich, but I was robbed of Michigan football when I attended here. I'm still rooting for you, but I will graduate without seeing a good team at Michigan. Not exactly fair
There is life after college! Feel free to be a fan after you graduate. There are hundreds of thousands that do so and many who still buy season tickets, benefits of being an alumni.
P.S Life isn't fair...
My last game as a student our team got whupped by PSU, 17-29.
Next season, I'm in freakin' Texas (working, first job after graduation) while Michigan goes 12-0 and Woodson wins the Heisman.
That wasn't fair.
1) This quote tells me he hates losing period. I've always maintained that Rodriguez doesn't care which game it is. I don't believe he views MSU as any different than any other game. I don't believe he views OSU as different than any other game. He views every game as a game he wants to desperately win. That is neither good or bad to me. I hate the Spartans but that doesn't mean he has to. Of course that doesn't absolve the team or him from losing. I want him to beat everybody. I just want him to beat OSU, MSU and Notre Dame to the point of necessitating a restraining order.
2) The people who don't believe that spread teams can't win in the Big Ten all I can say is please revisit history. The old school Lloyd Carr Michigan teams got shredded by spread teams. The read option spread can work in the Big Ten but like any offense, defense or special teams strategy you have to have the talent, and it has to execute. I am pretty sure when Oklahoma got run out off the field by WVU, there weren't that many people complaining about how effectively the read option could work against a big bad Big 12 team. Northwestern under Randy Walker was very competitive running the spread. Troy Smith and the Buckeyes ran the spread.
I am looking forward to the day that the whole "Big Ten have big men who pound big rocks and play man sport and read option no work because everyone too small" meme ends. It requires the right talent, and maturity to execute fully. The 3-3-5 falls under the same category. Rich hasn't lied about our lack of talent on the defensive side and it is evident on the field. It will get better if Rich stays at Michigan. His historical record shows that to be true.
It will be two losses in a row but then we will beat Penn State and hopefully all of this will calm down some. I love all of my fellow Michigan fans but just as we were overconfident after 5 wins, we cannot be unrealistically despondent with one loss.
It is clear that RR hates losing and desperately wants to win every game, like any coach of course! I feel that RR is a elite coach and just needs time to shore up the defense and implement his lethal offense ( we are seeing some of that already) history shows he has had good defense in the past a WVU. Grant it they werent elite, but Solid. I just get the feeling he doesnt think of Mich St as more than just another game, or any other rivalry game for that matter. I just hope i see something that makes me feel different about that in the future. Lets Go Blue!!
He likely has Dave Brandon's full support and will continue implementing his system now and for the foreseeable future.
This is as bad as "Brandon was brought in to replace Rich". You don't know what's in Brandon's head. Everyone seems to want to project however they feel about the situation into his head, because "he's smart, so he must think about the situation just like I do". He probably thinks about the situations like someone on the boards, because of the variety of opinion, but I know he doesn't think about it like EVERYone does.