RR played defense...

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November 2nd, 2010 at 6:10 PM
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RR played defense...

I find it interesting that RR played defensive back given his status as an innovator on offense. We have all discussed at length that he doesn't spend much time with the defense, and personally I am fine with that. If Casteel were available I would want him, if only for the reason that I know RR would trust Casteel enough to NOT dabble in the defense.

My interest is that RR; is not a defensive coach, doesn't claim to be a defensive coach, and would assume to be in a position where he doesn't need to spend anytime with the defense...yet played defense in college.

For those that know more than I do, are there any other names that jump out to you as coaches / coordinators who specialize on one side of the ball, yet whose playing career took place on the other?

"Begin with the end in mind." -Lloyd Carr

 

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November 2nd, 2010 at 6:12 PM | Lloyd Carr (Score:1)
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Lloyd was a QB at Missouri and Northern Michigan, but a D-Coord at Michigan.

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November 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 PM | good point (Score:1)
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although I'm not sure Lloyd ever had the defensive equivilent of RR's offensive reputation.

"Begin with the end in mind." -Lloyd Carr

 

November 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 PM | Unquestionably Rodriguez knows that the defense sucks... (Score:1)
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You don't need to have played defense to know this.  The question is what is he going to do about it?

End of the season will tell...

(would that make it a "telling" season?)

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November 2nd, 2010 at 6:22 PM | Gene Keady (Score:1)
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Played college football but coached college basketball.

November 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 PM | Gene Keady (Score:1)
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played QB in the NFL with the Steelers as well.

November 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 PM | Oh the irony of all irony, (Score:1)
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Oh the irony of all irony, that Coach Rod was a DB and safety to boot. 

November 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 PM | and a walk-on, at that. (Score:1)
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Do you think he sees a bit of himself in Kovacs?

Taking it one week at a time

November 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 PM | Does he have any eligibility (Score:1)
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Does he have any eligibility left?

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

November 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 PM | He has been working out with (Score:1)
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He has been working out with Barwis.

November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 PM | RR playing on defense my be (Score:1)
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RR playing on defense my be why he understands how to run an offense that shreds defenses. He understands how to expliot the weaknesses in defenses but not how to remedy them.

November 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 PM | Remedy (Score:1)
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My guess is coach Rod knows how to remedy the defense. The remedy is simply time as he has said but the question is will Dave Brandon have the patience it takes for RR to get his talent in place. The defense is way behind the offense in terms of talent and that is something Dave Brandon can evaluate as we gain new recruits and he sees all of the freshman waiting on the depth chart such as Furman, Ash, Ryan, Robinson, Wilkins etc..

November 2nd, 2010 at 7:49 PM | Wrong (Score:1)
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He has had three years to build an average defense.He had failed to do that.



This is not quantum physics. Defense us knowing your assignment, doing it, and tackling.A good HC does not need three years to construct a competitive defense.



The team, the team, the team.-Bo Schembechler

November 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 PM | Wow (Score:1)
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That is an idiotic comment. The defense is all very young (save Obi, jonas,  and James rogers.) The problem is purely inexperience and that will come in time

Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?

November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 PM | I've had the thought that maybe RR should make himself DC (Score:1)
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He's got Calvin MacGee to handle the offense, and RR is obviously not happy with the way Gerg is doing things, judging by how he's barging into defensive huddles on the sidelines to give them a piece of his mind. At least we wouldn't have to worry about the position coaches subverting RR or going behind his back.

Sure, I know it's stupid, but no more so than hiring Robinson in the first place.


November 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 PM | I don't think it's stupid.  (Score:1)
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I don't think it's stupid.  At this point, Coach Rod probably needs to try anything.  Motion creates emotion. 

November 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 PM | Did you see what GERG did.. (Score:1)
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when Rich jumped in the players faces.  I watched it in slow motion to see if I could figure out what he was yelling.  In the process, I noticed in the background that GERG, took off his headset and stroked his grey hair about 3 or 4 times........  GERG: Are defense sucks, but damn my hair looks terrific....

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November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 PM | I think it's more common then you think (Score:1)
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I don't really have any examples without looking it up, but I'll venture to say it's much more common than you think.  What better way to know how to take advantage of the other side of the ball then to actually have played on that side of the ball.

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November 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 PM | I vaguely remember Moeller inserting himself in the defense (Score:1)
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While I could be wrong, I think in the early 90's, Moeller inserted himself in the defense one year.  He claimed the toughest 11 would start. 

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November 3rd, 2010 at 1:32 AM | Moeller was our D coordinator (Score:1)
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Moeller was our D coordinator for 9 years total (2 different stincts) before he moved to offense in 1987.

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November 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 PM | Did the title really need an (Score:1)
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Did the title really need an ellipsis?

 

Does it tickle? Only slightly, only slightly.

I upvote any post by BlockM. And Magnus.

November 2nd, 2010 at 7:28 PM | probably not, but (Score:1)
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need for ellipsis is at least = to need for that comment

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November 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 PM | You have opened up a cyclical (Score:1)
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You have opened up a cyclical cycle here.

 

Does it tickle? Only slightly, only slightly.

I upvote any post by BlockM. And Magnus.

November 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 PM | Dave Duncan (Score:1)
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was a catcher who is a great pitching coach.  but i'm not sure i would want him as my hitting coach.

November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 PM | Charlie Weis played Legos (Score:1)
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and became a head football coach.

November 3rd, 2010 at 1:44 AM | Did you hear? (Score:1)
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About the new Notre Dame Stadium lego set?  I wonder...

HAIL.

November 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 PM | RR developed his offense from (Score:1)
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RR developed his offense from things he found were hardest to stop when he played...

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 PM | Les Miles (Score:1)
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Les was an offensive lineman, but I wouldn't call Les Miles an offensive genius.

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November 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 PM | RR (Score:1)
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needs to do whatever he feels will get the best play out of the defensive players we have right now, with or without regard to Gerg or anyone else at this point. He has not shown great decision making in regards to his last two hires, but who cares at this point? Get something going now, get crazy if you need to.

To quote Vizzini: "Did I mention your job is on the line?"

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