RR and Bill Stewart guilty of practice time violations at WVU

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WVU applies self-imposed sanctions similar to what we are dealing with right now.

Former West Virginia coaches Rich Rodriguez and Bill Stewart have been found by the NCAA to have failed to monitor the duties and activities of graduate assistants and non-coaching staff members while they were at the school, a source said Friday.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6749886

yoopergoblue

July 8th, 2011 at 10:57 PM ^

I don't see how it's trolling and honestly I don't care that you think it is.  My point came across wrong in my original post.  I was really trying to say that some Michigan fans honestly believe that there were no wrongdoings by Rich Rod and his staff in the whole "stretch-gate" fiasco.  Obviously he and his staff broke NCAA rules at 2 schools.  

And FYI, I really wanted Rich Rod to suceed as the Michigan coach but I was not after the reports came out and still am not pleased with the fact we are on probation for the first time in the history of our football program.  

BigBlue02

July 9th, 2011 at 2:27 AM ^

I would like you to point me to 1 poster.....just 1....that thinks RichRod did nothing wrong. I want you to show me 1 post where someone says everything is the freep's fault, RichRod has 0 blame in this situation. Even as strong as Section 1 feels about the situation, he has said he knows we did something wrong.  I am being honest when I say not a single person thinks RichRod shoulders no blame in this situation.

iawolve

July 8th, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^

He was either consistently doing it wrong or purposely wrong. I would tend to think he was just doing it wrong since the benefit would not be that great.

skunk bear

July 8th, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^

I would be very surprised if others weren't doing it.

I agree the rules are hard to follow especially when you have a former NCAA compliance person working for you and she doesn't catch it.

My point wasn't that RR cheated, it was that RR carried the misperception here from WVU.

jmblue

July 9th, 2011 at 12:40 AM ^

It explains that the NCAA rules are really hard to follow no matter where and who you are with regards to practice time.

I agree that many NCAA rules are difficult to uphold (particularly all the extra-benefits rules, given that you can't monitor these guys 24/7), but this one is theoretically directly in the coach's control. He decides how long they practice, and who monitors it. I don't think we have a great excuse for breaking the rule.  At best, we were sloppy in our compliance.  At worst, we figured we could gain a small advantage by bending the rules. 

justingoblue

July 8th, 2011 at 4:42 PM ^

I could be completely off base with this, but IIRC they wanted to look into RR's past for a pattern of incorrectly documenting practice hours. That or WVU saw the scandal at Mich and went, oh fuck we better investigate...

Again, I could be wrong, but I do believe it was related to the scandal here.

LB

July 8th, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^

How can anyone call this the Freep jihad anymore

Rosenberg?

How is it that Michigan paid for a west coast vacation for the NCAA as well as having to mount an expedition of their own, and everyone else seems to take care of these things from the comfort of their respective offices?

AZBlue

July 8th, 2011 at 5:03 PM ^

And as many of the ESPN talking heads and others said during the investigation - including Herbstreit (sp) - that they believed that many if not most of the major programs out there are/were probably guilty of at least some of the "voluntary" time and GA violations -- and cited the Michigan case as a wake-up call for those programs to review their practices as well.

 

As noted above the WVU investigation was a direct result of the RR investigation to see if there was any proof of a flagrant disregard for the rules vs. a misunderstanding of said rules.  I believe the NCAA ruling concluded the latter, particularly when it was determined that Bill Stewart followed the same procedures.  However the WVU thing had been opened at that point and thus needed to be addressed.

mad magician

July 8th, 2011 at 6:33 PM ^

is a poor administrator.

Just an unsolicited internet opinion here, of course, but I think he'd be best served by swallowing some pride and seeking an offensive coordinator rather than a head coach position next year. Seems to me the surest way to rebuild his reputation.