alum96

October 27th, 2014 at 3:00 PM ^

Hoke's drops by $2M after Jan 1.  With NFL season going past Jan 1 and most "top notch" coaches with their bowl teams you may have Hoke in limbo as the new AD "assesses him" for however many weeks after Brandon is hired.  Then he is fired Jan 2.  I think that is how it will play out.  Hoke will simply disappear after Nov 30th from the pubic eye and those 31 days save the university some bucks. (I am assuming we are 5-7 or worse and not bowl eligible)

 

Turn Texas Blue

October 27th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^

Glad he's taking a back seat to this, as he should. However, I find it imeasurably frustrating that wins and losses STILL comes up when talking about DB. There are so many other issues with how the athletic department is run and poor dicission making that even if we were having a good year in football DB's job would still be in question. Writing the book on how not to handle public relations, making decisions without input from key stakeholders (i.e. students and season ticket holders), and greatlyexpanding the athlic department's staff almost inexplicably all stand as department wide issues.

mjv

October 27th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^

If he was asked directly a question about interfering with the AD decision, I don’t know if there was any way that he would provide a different answer.  He’s not going to say “all of the decision are mine to make and the President better back off.”  Even if that was the case.  I put a little more faith in the Q&A with the big donors from last week where the softball questions we teed up to allow Ross to distance himself from DB.  Ross likely had some input into how that was framed.  
 
I do believe DB is getting fired, but the WSJ article doesn’t give me much comfort.

MGlobules

October 27th, 2014 at 2:31 PM ^

Ross effectively decides. And by having him into his office to deliver the message--in a very public way--Schlissel let Ross's ego carry the day.

It's good news for Michigan football, but not for the University of Michigan. The same thing could have happened under cover of night and perceptions of Schilssel would have been a little different. The guy who came in saying that sports shouldn't be the tail that wags the dog has already cried bow wow.

Anyway, let's get moving now.

True Blue Grit

October 27th, 2014 at 2:43 PM ^

I don't believe the contract buyout amount will be an issue in the end analysis.  They'll either work out an acceptable deal or come up with some high level fund raising job to keep Brandon employed and avoid the buyout. 

But Schlissel really has no choice here.  Brandon has pissed off way too many people to ignore and made Michigan look like a shit-show in the national media - among other things.  And trying to get him to "reform" is a big waste of time too.  Leopards don't change their spots and Brandon has spent too much time being a pompous, self-serving arrogant person to change.  His comments and actions have clearly demonstrated disdain and disregard for the non-student athletes and average fans. 

TIMMMAAY

October 27th, 2014 at 5:25 PM ^

And trying to get him to "reform" is a big waste of time too.  Leopards don't change their spots and Brandon has spent too much time being a pompous, self-serving arrogant person to change.  His comments and actions have clearly demonstrated disdain and disregard for the non-student athletes and average fans. 

That's exactly the issue in a nutshell. You can get people to change their actions to some extent, but it's very difficult to change the way someone thinks. If you have someone in a decision making position, you don't want to have to babysit and second guess all of their actions. This has been pretty cut and dry for a few weeks now. DB is out, Hoke is out. There is no way the school can afford to keep either of the two at this point. Everything is completely toxic, and you can't just clean that up without new blood. 

Take shelter Dave Brandon. Winter is coming. 

LSAClassOf2000

October 27th, 2014 at 2:52 PM ^

On Monday, Ross said that he still thinks Brandon can do the job. But he also has promised school president Mark Schlissel that he won’t interfere or oppose a decision to fire Brandon.

Like others, I am a little perplexed that this even became something people had asked because ultimately the decision is Schlissel's and I couldn't think of anyone so attached to Brandon - even if they support him as Ross apparently does - that would threaten to cease their donations if he were to be fired. I had a difficult time imagining anyone being that vindictive, but I could be off in my perceptions here. 

alum96

October 27th, 2014 at 2:55 PM ^

I remember how everyone overreacted to that Detroit Crain's article saying he supported Brandon. As if he was going to publicly say I dont support Brandon.  Things can change a lot in a month.  Public opinion will overwhelm a lone voice.  No matter how rich.

This is about as close to a non confidence vote as you can get. 

Guys, dude has not tweeted in a month other than to lower ticket prices.  He is done.  Henson said he was asked to resign and he refused.  I know dude wears a crown on his head but he was correct about a letter being written that former players signed even if he embellished it.  He had the original Hoke hire 4 years ago, etc.  Henson has been right directionaly on quite a few things even if he takes it to extremes.  Since (if accurate) Brandon refused to resign this will be drawn out IMO but he is not coming back.  He'd be tweeting his little heart out.

Lampuki22

October 27th, 2014 at 3:08 PM ^

Once upon a time I worked at a major public university. My wife and I were in pretty high level positions.  She had "Dean" in here title.  We saw and heard a lot of the stuff you hear at positons like that.  Top tier research Universities are pretty uptight about the perception that outside money is influencing them.   They  will absolutely squash any notion of it.  You have to remember that facutly are pretty much impossible to fire so they will say and do anything even if it's against the financial interest of the school.   So at the school we were at an entire building had been donated by a celebrity.  The university decided that it wanted to take it away and use it for something else that was more academically relevant.   The celebrity raised hell, faught it tooth and nail and they found a way around him.   So this does not surprise me.  In the end Ross has a relatonship with U of M not Dave Brandon and he's smart enough to not create a controversey with his name attached to it.

bj dickey

October 27th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^

The difference is that Mr Ross is a friend of the university, not a friend mr Brandon. While there is a relationship between them, it does not dictate or change Mr. Ross' relationship with the U, which will always stand regardless of what mistakes a particular administrator makes or not.

Ryno2317

October 27th, 2014 at 3:38 PM ^

DB will probably be gone this week.  Hoke not long after.  We will announce a new coach by mid-December and it won't be either Harbaugh. 

bronxblue

October 27th, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^

Because people are always truthful when speaking to the media.

Seriously, Ross won't get involved because I can't imagine he cares all that much.  Brandon isn't his childhood friend or anything; he'll be fine with the next semi-rich guy they bring in to replace Brandon.

hennesbe

October 27th, 2014 at 4:34 PM ^

This is what's wrong with college athletics.  People give money then expect everything from thereafter to go thru them.  If Ross or anyone else wants to contribute, go, but keep your mouth shut.

CAwolverine

October 27th, 2014 at 4:41 PM ^

Pull the plug on this clown show. ASAP. this is beyond embarrassing. If this were a prize fight it would be stopped and declared a TKO. If this were your dog you would humanely put it down and not let the exacerbating pain continue. It is clear to the rest of college football a change needs to occur. The sooner the better so we can try and keep some of this recruiting class together.

samdrussBLUE

October 27th, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^

This should surprise NO ONE. All Ross ever said before was that he wouldn't have donated if he didn't trust the AD and what they would do with the funding. This doesn't mean that DB would be the only one he would support.


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pullin4blue

October 27th, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^

Did you ever think that publically, Ross said that he would not interfere with decisions related to Dave Brandon. What if privately, he said that he would also not interfere with the University's attempt to hire Jim Harbaugh? Gets me giddy just thinking about it.

NelzQ

October 27th, 2014 at 8:23 PM ^

Please make a very smart choice. Not Michigan smart, just smart.

Smart like Urban Meyer or Brian Kelly. Smart like a no brainer. Smart like historically, check mate smart.

Like Harbaugh.

Anything less than a home run continues the culture.

might and main

October 28th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^

time now to pull the trigger on Brandon.  I like that Schlissel has been deliberate, done his due diligence, etc., especially for a guy without experience with big time athletics.  But the time has come re. Brandon.  Even if we need to pay his ridiculous buyout (and I'm pissed at MSC for that!), it's time to do it.