Rose Bowl Open Thread
Because it takes less time to snap and spike it when you're playing at home.
Ryan Leaf says of course you can't spike it in two seconds.
Once again Bielema can't manage time right...
wasted a timeout and didn't run a play, thats just bad coaching.
WHAT THE F DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU TRY TO SPIKE THE BALL WITH 2 SECONDS LEFT BIELEMA???
Brett is a moron.
Beilema is an absolute idiot. He should rightly catch a ton of fire for that dumbass call.
Who spikes the fucking ball with 2 clicks???? Wow
Holy shit wisky. What the hell was that?!
How bout calling for a throw to the end zone, not a spike, with :02 left?
Great job Wisconsin..great game
There is no Spartan Bob to help you out, Wisconsin.
Beilema is a massive tool. I don't mind the Badgers losing.
Wow, that was a really terrible showing by Beilema
Not the man you should be learning clock managment from
Ummmm no Bret Musburger. I believe Alabama gave LSU their best game of the year. 9-6 trumps 40-27.
Stop with the Oregon love fest.
Complete and utter stupidity.
Just told their players to run same play again if less than 3 secs left
Yeah it's not rocket science. Center snaps on 1 second left. The line pass blocks, all the eligible recievers head for the end zone.
That was the worst end to a game I've ever seen in my life!
Mike Price and Ryan Leaf say hi.
electrifying games end that way ...
that is all
I wanted UW to win as well, but if they were going to lose, then that was by far the best outcome. A loss you can pretty much put right on Bielema. I really dislike him.
Announcer: Coach Bielema, you called for a spike and cost your team a chance to tie the Rose Bowl. What are you going to do next?
Corch Dumbass: I'm going to Sizzler, bitches!
I can't stop laughing and my wife is giving me the evil eye!!!
Wisconsin lost all 3 games because of stupid coaching decisions. That's funny to me.
Bret Bielema is a meathead.
He has a head.
Which is full of meat.
Dead from the neck up.
last game of career is a stupid spike
then realied that this is the 98th Rose Bowl. Funny though that this one and '98 ended the same way though. Good job by both teams. We'll see you both in the B10CG and Rose Bowl next year!
Do NOT spike the ball when you're losing and have mere seconds left.
Do you think Bret gets a little flack on Wisky blogs tonight?
but I am glad for Oregon for the Rose Bowl win - 95 years is a long time.
Let's look at the games:
1. Wisconsin was very competitive with Oregon and a "typical" mistake cost them the game - the error in not knowing what can be challenged or not and cost them a time out, the fumble after a great long pass and arguably having to go for a FG taking them to 31 was largely due to Ball slipping on the 2nd down play when they were in deep.
2. MSU showed great heart and came back to beat Georgia when it would have been easy for them to cave. Yes, Georgia made mistakes but these were not flukes.
3. OSU lost to Florida, but they were also in that game and frankly playing for an outgoing coach with all of the distractions they did OK. Strange play calling - when early on they were running the ball well and essentially kept Florida off the field for most of the 2nd quarter.
4. Nebraska - looked like Nebraska we played. They had their moments, but are a one dimensional team. When forced to do more and do it consistently they couldn't do it.
5. PSU - seriously distracted and messed up due to the worst college sports scandal of all time. Worse than the worst gambling scandal. Worse than the worst alcohol or adult sex scandal. And they played that way.
It seemed to be the talking point of so many of the commentators that the "B10 is weak". Yet after looking at the games, Three of the games were winnable and MSU did win. OSU and Wisconsin were within one or two plays from being the victors. Nebraska and PSU were the only ways which look out of sorts but frankly they looked that way all season against the better B10 teams.
The conference looks average, which is fine with me. Nobody so far this bowl season has looked particularly good. Big 12 looks like a conference with oodles of offense and no defense. The Pac-12 the same. Big 10 looks like a bunch of 8-4, 9-3 teams that can beat anyone but don't have an immense number of playmakers. The SEC looks the best, but that also feels a little like a mirage given some of the match-ups, and frankly we all know about the oversigning. I find it funny that of the SEC/B1G games today, the two involving SEC teams that don't oversign - FLA and UGA - were pretty competitive and actually featured teams with offensive and defensive holes.
I'm sure we'll hear about how down the B1G is this year and going forward, but they look average. I'm okay with that.
1) Wisconsin gave up 621 yards of offense on 64 plays. I know their defense isn't very good, but those are Alamo Bowl numbers right there. And they are the best team in the conference.
2) Congratulations to Michigan State. Could have gone either way and they made the plays to win it.
3) OSU outplayed Florida in the 2nd quarter. Once up 11, they essentially ran the clock out. Neither team is great, but it's hard to win when you give up 2 TDs on special teams.
4) Nebraska had the nice first half and then got their ass handed to them after that. It was somewhat similar to OSU-UF. A quality 1st half followed up by one team making adjustments and getting better and the other well . . not.
5) Houston had distractions as well. First, they lost the Sugar Bowl and second their coach is also leaving. And is their a great indictment of your defensive scheme than running the ball a grand total of THREE TIMES in the 1st half.
If the conference wants some respect in football it needs to WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!
...but the matchups also matter. In the 7 B1G games played thusfar, a B1G underdog lost to a higher ranked/favored opponent in five of them. Michigan State was ranked lower and getting points but won.
It is conventional on ESPN to look at conference bowl records as an indication of conference strength, but this doesn't seem to indicate much when every team in a conference is drawing higher ranked and favored opponents.
against the spread as well I believe. So not only do bettors not think much of the conference, the teams can't even cover given the benefit of points.
Its about winning big-time games. Simple as that. Until the conference can do that with any consistency, it's going to be looked down upon.
...but the point I'm trying to make is that the normal "SEC>B1G" analysis is misleadingly simplistic when factors like match-ups are excluded. Even a metric like Big Ten performance agains the spread is a red herring at this time of the year when irrational/recreational fan gamblers push the lines away from the more clinical (and predictive) "open" numbers.
Amazed that Wiscy didn't have a better plan there. You are close enough to just have all the WRs run around to the endzone, throw the ball. The refs even gave them a couple extra seconds by fumbling around with the ball before placing it. Just signal the same call and give it a heave.
I hate that Wiscy represents B1G football, because they ALWAYS do dumb stuff like this. The two games they lost this year, last year against TCU, eons under Alvarez.
i feel gross afer watching how that game ended
Rogel Goodell just threw a flag, DON'T HURT THE OFFENSE!
With exception of the PSU game, I feel like the B1G did a lot of big time choking today. Nebraska wasn't the same after the fumble inside the ten. ohio was screwed after the Posey fumble and Wisky was moving right along before the fumble with 4:00 to go. Today was embarrassing.
Congrats phill knight your professional team of bought players finaly one a big game