To coach at Ohio State, you have to have some success, and probably not have been fired from your last job
Ron Zook to Ohio State?
Are you implying that Fickell was NOT successful with the D at OSU?
After his very 'meh' stint at Florida, I can't see him landing a top tier head coaching job again. Especially given his meh stint at Illinois currently.
You mean that florida team that won the NC with all his recruits?
Ron Zook is a great recruiter, and a terrible head coach. Very much analogous to Charlie Weis, actually.
Dave Wannstedt comes to mind as well.
it would absolutely be good ol' Wanny. He has been coming up short of expectations for his entire career. It would also be great payback for me as a Dolphin fan to see him destroy something I hate instead of something I love.
Hey! Same for me as a Bears fan!
How many other fan bases has he let down?
Matt. Millen. (Yes I know he's not a coach, but its safe to assume how that would turn out)
Wannstedt is great recruiter but bad coach? I dont know about that one, I thought the only thing he was ever known for was ruining RBs careers.
He got the talent to Pitt (compared to the rest of the BE); he just couldn't compete when it came time to coach. Every one of his teams was more talented than Kelly's, yet he didn't deliver come gametime with the BCS on the line.
AFAIK (and I attended Pitt) we had the most draft picks out of the BE during his years, but never went to a BCS game. That should be a good indicator of the disparity.
They question his X's and O's. He is just not a very good coach. Great recruiter, bad coach. They are all over college football.
....and another coach
Houston Nut at Ole Miss.
Les Miles brings in incredible classes but people do question his actual coaching (he had 2 losses when he won the National title).
It has yet to be seen how he does on the field but Lane Kiffen is a prime candidate.
Mark Stoops at Arizona. Every year we hear how talented they are and how they are going to break through and every year they end up with 5 losses.
EDIT: I almost forgot Dabo Sweeney at Clemson, Charlie Weiss when he was at ND (Miss you big guy XOXO), and Randy Shannon when he was at Miami.
He just needs a stat major/football junkie on his head set to help him with his clock management and time outs.
has really done good things with that program. They havent reached expectations in most years but you gotta understand there wasnt any expectations before he got there. 5 losses at that school might be the ceiling except for maybe a special year every now and again.
Last year was supposed to be their best team under Stoops and they started 7-1 (the loss being to 5-7 OSU) and finised by losing 5 straight games.
You are not the only one in Michigan who would love to see it, but I hate to tell you - not a chance in hell.
OSU will never take a Illinois throw away.
Whatever happened to that former U of Illinois coach who went 6 Ws 24 Ls 3 Ties from 1977-1979?
Bo brought Mo back home. Zook is better liked than Moeller ever was at Illinois. Then again, Zook has been the typical IL coach...one great season and done. Moeller never delivered the one great season.
As much as I would love to see Zook go to Ohio State, there must be mutual attraction. Zook is on the hot seat for a reason and OSU will likely shy away.
to Angry Former Michigan BLANK Hating God/Current Buckeye Program Hating God's ears...
just no. MAC with Frank Zolich maybe.
Is my best guess, he always had an explosive offense at texas tech, imagine the things he can could do at ohio state.
That sounds familiar.. coughRRcough
He just needs a defensive coordinator
I really need a picture or something to post every time my signature line comes to pass...
Actually, I think Mike Leach would be a good fit, especially considering the drama he left Texas Tech with.
we thought the same about RR coming to Michigan. In reality it works out differently from on paper sometimes. I'm talking about the whole picture, not just offense, or just recruiting, etc.
If he isn't good enough for Illinois, I highly doubt he'll be good enough for OSU.
We can wish, though
Ohio State might go on to hire the guy that gets fired from Illinois? Doesn't sound logical to me.
I mean, what kind of crappy program would do something like that? ...
Sooo a coach on a hot seat at Illinois will skip town for one of the best jobs in the nation?
ZERO chance this goes down
i wouldn't be surprised if they kept Fickell around for a while. And to answer the question, no i don't think that Zook will ever coach at OSU.
I agree...I think Fickell will be there at least until the sanctions run out.
Maybe he doesn't have the greatest scheme of all time, but he coaches up 3 star kids into NFL prospects on a regular basis. I don't know of any coach that could appease the fanbase down there. You have to preach Ohio, and coach a little football on the side as it stands. Any coach coming in will be replacing Tressel, if they keep Fickell for a few seasons then Zook wouldn't have to compete with their martyred saint/dirty football coach's memory. Zook's paid pretty well at Iowa, though. It'll cost them unless he's released.
I think you mean Illinois, not Iowa?
brain fart there.
Now that I think about it they both do pretty well in getting/developing talent for the NFL.
No, I don't think OSU will be hiring an Illinois castoff as head coach
I thought Ohio State made Fickell their permanant coach for forever and ever and ever? After all, they removed the "interim" label...
that if someone was either born in ohio or coached for ohio state at one point they're automatically a candidate...
See my post below...I said the same thing and posted a list of people we will be seeing threads of over the next year.
A few weeks back ESPN did a short story of the next Ohio State coach possibly coming from another Big Ten team. Many thought it was Dantonio, but Zook could be a strong candidate. Nice research there.
It's better because you have less points than him...but it's so true. This should turn into a comedy thread pretty quickly. Here, I'll help the process along.
So are we just throwing out random guys we would love to see as aOSU's next coach? Okay, how about John Cooper? How about Charlie Weis? How about John L. Smith? How about Ty Willingham? Bobby Williams? I can keep going...
Bob Knight! Lou Brown! Bud Kilmer!
haha. love the bud kilmer reference.
"I don't want your life!" (must said with worst Texas accent ever)
It will NEVER happen, alas the Michigan in me will say YES PLEASE
I believe this deserves and "OT" qualifier. Also, can we just back off on the whole speculation train? If we started a thread every time we heard of a coach from Ohio or with Ohio ties being a potential candidate for OSU we would have all of these:
1. Les Miles (Elyria)
2. Urban Meyer (Ashtabula)
3. Ron Zook (Loudenville/OSU)
4. Mike/Bob Stoops (Youngstown)
5. Pete Carroll (OSU Assistant)
6. Bo Pellini (Youngstown)
7. Jon Gruden (Sanduskk)
8. Nick Saban (Played at Kent State, coached at Toledo)
9. Gary Pinkel (Akron)
10. Glen Mason (OSU Assistant)
11. Mark Dantonio (OSU Assistant)
The list keeps going. Think about this for just a second, why on God's Green Earth would OSU take Ron Zook as their coach when he has failed* just about everywhere he's gone?
*In the eyes of the fanbase. He would be eaten alive in Columbus the second he put on scarlet and gray because as crazy as OSU fans are, some are pretty smart and would know what he's done elsewhere.
1A) Bo Schembechler (OSU Assistant)
I was at least hoping for a ridiculous rumor to laugh at. Boo.
Just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that'd step into the shoes of a beloved coach that the university loves. He'd never subject himself to having to follow up that sort of big-name professionally.
We should be so lucky..
this is just all kinds of stupid. why in god's name would they ever even consider giving zook an interview??? if he personally sent smith (or whoever their new AD is, more likely) a letter expressing his interest in the job, i'm sure it would get forwarded around the athletic department so everyone could get a good chuckle out of it before being thrown in the trash.
Since my picture and tag demand it.
NEVER will this happen. Thanks for the comedy of this ludicrous idea though.
Maybe we should have zook coach ohio, rich rod coach state and have weis come back to nd.
Ugh. I wish copious downvotes would move threads down the board so I didn't have to see them.
If they hire RR maybe they'll get GERG, too.
That's just plain mean.
When I was in high school I was valet parking at a private party. Ron Zook, an assistant with the Saints was there and I parked his car. He stiffed me.
I already hate him, which would make him a great fit at TSIO in my opinion.
is a mindblowingly bad in game coach. His decision to punt on 4th and less than a foot last year against Michigan was one of the worst calls I've even seen. It all ended up well though :)
.....Zook and Fickell have fairly competitive records as head coach.
Man, I wish. The day Ohio State hired Ron Zook would be a great day for Michigan fans everywhere.
When he quit OSU to ass't coach for Spurrier and the Gators he took a Buckeye recruit from Sarasota, Fla., with him. Larry Kennedy, whom Zook had originally recruited to OSU.Fans didn't mind losing Zook, but hated losing Kennedy, who was USA Today's national defensive player of the year as a HS senior.
I lived in Sarasota at the time and many of the Florida Buckeye fans who also liked the Gators hated Zook.