that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
Rodriguez Hires Magee, Gibson, and Dews
Secondary coach FAIL
Who needs defense when you have offense?
Let's ask OK State and Oregon.
Why settle for #3 and #5 when we can ask #1 and #2?
whooshing sound above you.
The link is shortened to "rr hires ass...". I assumed it was referring to Gerg, so they should be set on defense.
he's supposedly an excellent recruiter.
Do we still assume RR has learned from his previous misadventures?
Perhaps Gibson's the paid waterboy rather than the secondary coach.
I wouldn't trust him to contain water in a cup. There would probably be a massive breakdown and the water would seep into the endzone untouched.
That was good.
I almost feel bad for RR. He seems unaware that his defensive assistants were his downfall at Michigan and/or feels too personally obligated to GIbson to leave him out. Oh well, they should have a good offense...
Magee makes some sense. Dews was not that special, has to be tons of WR coaches with west coast ties. Gibson is simply a walking defensive disaster. He helped Pitt settle into 70th in Passing Defense, a great improvement from 17th last year..
Those are Rodriguez's core guys, even if Gibson is a fail of a secondary coach. Best of luck in the desert.
Good for them.
AZ sports blogs take note now. GIBSON MINUS ALL THE POINTS!
How's that saying go? Bros before actual secondary coaches.
Vinopal must be so pissed right now.....
I imagine Carvin ends up at Arizona
Cullen Christian is angry...
And rightfully so
Why? He signed a letter of intent to Michigan and transferred a year later. Tony Gibson signed a contract with Pitt and left a year later.
It's the way of the world - people change jobs, change allegiances, etc. I understand being upset if someone lied to you, but you can't be a hypocrite about it and expect sympathy.
That's a dick thing to say. That does not preclude it from being completely true, though.
True, but players have to sit out for a year if they transfer. The coaches they sign up to play for can leave and immediately begin coaching somewhere else, even if they recruited kids with the promise that they would stick around. If that's what underlies his frustration, then I don't blame him.
If Cullen could transfer again without losing another year of eligibility, he would have no real right to be angry (as one of his tweets says, this is how it works in the business world.) But since players aren't allowed to the same contractual freedoms as coaches, I certainly understand his anger at followin a coach who then turns around and leaves.
He hopped from one school to another after a few months, yet someone else wants to improve their situation, and he's calling them out.
He explicitly says that Gibson lied to him and his parents, Magnus.
Someone was misled into making one of the biggest decisions of their lives by moving to a different college and being forced to stay there for the next 3 years, only to lose what brought them there without so much as a goodbye?
That's the business. It's been happening for years. It happens all the time, we talk about it, the media talk about it. That's college football.
College football coaches lie. It's not news. That's why you pick a school where you will be happy, even if your position coach gets fired or takes another job.
He was considering Pitt even when Gibson was at Michigan. Maybe he should just be happy that he's close to home and playing FBS football.
Again, I might agree with you if coaches were held to the same standard as kids. A kid has to sit out a year if he reneges on his commitment to a school/coach. A coach suffers no consequences whatsoever if he reneges on a promise to a kid. You're right in that kids should choose a school based on the school and not the coaching staff, but given the constraints they face with the NCAA, I don't blame them for getting upset when the coaches who recruit them break their promises.
The reason they have the rule is to prevent players from following coaches. Coaches are employees and players are students. The difference in relationship to the school is completely different. I feel for him, but that's why they tell recruits to pick the school that is right for them. Picking based on coach is just going to get you into situations like this in the future.
War happens all the time, that doesn't make it ok. I'm simply saying that what the coaches did was dishonest and morally wrong, I'm not saying they are terribly immoral by coach standards.
Magnus, in the post I responded to, you wrote "I could understand being upset if they lied."
Try to be consistent, man.
I also said "don't be a hypocrite." And that's exactly what Cullen Christian is doing.
the coach "promised" one kid he's be at Pitt until after said kid graduated? I doubt it, but even if he did, it should have been taken with a grain of salt. Situations change all the time...hell, Gibson could easily have been fired before CC graduated. Thats something he simply couldn't guarantee.
Also, you're taking CC's word for what was said. As of now, his word isn't looking any more reliable than Gibson's.
From reading that Twitter feed? What language is that?
Did he tell a 13 year-old to "put you coochie on silent"?
I can't stop laughing at the "+3 Insightful" tag on this reply above. Whoever did that, you are awesome.
something about committing to a school, not a coach... blah, blah....
I can understand having a relationship with a coach, but if he can only succeed under one coach he's not gonna get very far. Gotta let it go.
Christian will be lucky if he finds success in college, period. He's got to improve a lot to do anything in college, at least from the point where he was as a freshman.
Yeah, I'm on his side on this one. He's already transferred to follow these guys to the next stop and all of a sudden they're gone. I feel bad for the guy.
Maybe he should have been smarter.
While I think you were a little hard on Cullen above, you nailed this part. Why follow a lousy DB coach twice?
Also, he should have read between the lines and realized that RichRod would only be out of a job for 1 year and as soon as he found another, he would bring the gang back together. Gibson and RR are very loyal to each other and anyone on this board could have told him this would be the case.
Right, because the sophisticated side in this contract is definitely the 18-22 year olds.
He is upset about the coaches lying to the players. I guess what he is most angry about is how whichever coach got him to Pitt promised him and his family he was not going to do this when RR got hired.
How many of you thought RR would only be out of coaching a year, then gather up the old buddies from Pitt and WVU at whatever his new gig would be? That's what I thought. Thanks for playing along.
Maybe Christian couldn't think through this logic, but there's no way RR is going to stay at CBS long term. And Pitt and the Big East is not necessarily a destination job for these guys.
Oh, and thanks to whoever shared the link to Christian's Twitter account /s - arghhh!. Nice line about the 13 year old...
How many of us are 19 year olds and not adults that have developed a keen ability to distinguish between sincerity and bullshit?
That's what I thought.
My younger brother was much smarter than I was, he realized it was all bullshit at a pretty young age.